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FM Cafarelli
June 10th, 2013, 10:15 AM
who and especially why
FM Monroe
June 10th, 2013, 11:00 AM
Sheep lost their leaders and now they just give up without trying anything. Typical :p
FM Black
June 10th, 2013, 01:20 PM
They realized town can not win
FM Ballard
June 10th, 2013, 03:11 PM
perfectenschlag
FM Morgan
June 10th, 2013, 06:54 PM
I stopped reading the FM because the stupidity has gotten to the point I just don't care about the outcome any more. All I check is the RP, the Graveyard, and the vote count, I don't take the time to see what they're saying. So can someone tell me if the stupidity has lowered or not?
FM Monroe
June 10th, 2013, 08:00 PM
It got worse.
FM Phelps
June 10th, 2013, 08:15 PM
I stopped reading the FM because the stupidity has gotten to the point I just don't care about the outcome any more. All I check is the RP, the Graveyard, and the vote count, I don't take the time to see what they're saying. So can someone tell me if the stupidity has lowered or not?
It's the most stupidiest FM i have ever seen on this site.
FM Ferengi
June 10th, 2013, 08:26 PM
It's the most stupidiest FM i have ever seen on this site.
;(
FM Phelps
June 10th, 2013, 08:55 PM
Players fault not yours.
FM Cohen
June 10th, 2013, 11:59 PM
Night 10
- Douse Leary
and
- Ignight asap
worked with parker... time to try with him
FM Lichtmann
June 11th, 2013, 06:26 AM
It's the most stupidiest FM i have ever seen on this site.
I think there was a worse one I can pm you it if you like
FM Bishop
June 11th, 2013, 06:41 AM
Dead chat is dead, baby. Dead chat is dead.
FM Ferengi
June 11th, 2013, 06:59 AM
Dead chat is dead, baby. Dead chat is dead.
Help me come up with the top 10 memorable moments and player nicknames! :)
Also the next day converts the game to 24 hour day/nights so things should begin to pick up again.
FM Ballard
June 11th, 2013, 07:09 AM
Dead chat is dead, baby. Dead chat is dead.
just like your faction :smile: quack! (mine too)
FM Ferengi
June 11th, 2013, 07:22 AM
just like your faction :smile: quack! (mine too)
How likely I think each faction is to win:
Mafia: 39%
Savages: 59%
Town: 2%
So I wouldn't give up just yet :p
FM Lichtmann
June 11th, 2013, 07:25 AM
How likely I think each faction is to win:
Mafia: 39%
Savages: 59%
Town: 2%
So I wouldn't give up just yet :p
Meh, mafia kills savage, savages need to kill mafia, if they misfire then the fail, derp town will just derp to whoever makes the most votes. in shortest time
FM Hogeboom
June 11th, 2013, 07:32 AM
I told you guys I was the Arsonist! HAHA
*referring to S-FM Bus Drivers*
FM Cafarelli
June 11th, 2013, 10:56 AM
night action is still valid
FM Monroe
June 11th, 2013, 11:23 AM
How likely I think each faction is to win:
Mafia: 39%
Savages: 59%
Town: 2%
So I wouldn't give up just yet :p
Just fyi, Green's role was never revealed.
FM Cafarelli
June 11th, 2013, 12:27 PM
he'll wait till regular day end
FM Ferengi
June 11th, 2013, 12:34 PM
Just fyi, Green's role was never revealed.
Day will end at the regularly scheduled time listed in the Wolfram Alpha link so we don't get too far off track with the day/night cycle.
FM Bishop
June 11th, 2013, 12:35 PM
Those odds say that Green was Town.
FM Ferengi
June 11th, 2013, 12:38 PM
Those odds say that Green was Town.
I can neither confirm nor deny your suspicions. :p
Forum Mafia GM
June 11th, 2013, 03:33 PM
I can neither confirm nor deny your suspicions. :p
But Green might as he has been added to the deadchat.
FM Phelps
June 11th, 2013, 10:39 PM
Another one bites the dust.
FM Cajetan
June 11th, 2013, 10:51 PM
And another one gone, and another one gone...
Forum Mafia GM
June 11th, 2013, 10:52 PM
so, predictions on who dies tonight? and who will be lynched tomorrow?
FM Green
June 11th, 2013, 10:54 PM
I bet Galloways getting lynched tomorrow and Mason is dying tonight.
FM Phelps
June 11th, 2013, 10:59 PM
mafia shoots mason
savages eat Donelly.
Witch or Galloway getting lynched tomorrow.
Alphege
June 11th, 2013, 11:03 PM
They realized town can not win
Would have been good to take my gambit.
Town has found themselves alone, riding in a green field.
Alphege
June 11th, 2013, 11:03 PM
so, predictions on who dies tonight? and who will be lynched tomorrow?
Both kill Mason to try to get Witch to join them.
Ackerman is lynched.
FM Phelps
June 11th, 2013, 11:35 PM
Yup they were too occupied in lynching scum over lynching the right scum roles as well. Also all those PR's like the Coroner suiciding to blackmail, jailor revaling for nothing. investigator revealed on day 2. fail lynching the doc and 3 denizens. While having 2 super strong Escort roles and an OP clubber role with 3 tries all 2 days to smite savages. 2 Soma to scum.
Town doesn't deserve to win in the slightest.
Alphege
June 11th, 2013, 11:44 PM
FM 15- Town ROFLSTOMPS to day 4? victory. Mafia resigned for lack of chance to win. 95% Town, 5% Mafia
FM 16- 1 lynch away from lose, do to sheer lack of attempt from Town. 50.1% Town, 49.9% Mafia
FM 17- literally only won because of SEVERE numbers advantage and biased hosting. 16% Town, 1% Rebels, 5% Marines, 18% Mafia, 60% CP9.
FM 18- 1% Town, 99% Mafia/Cultfia (since we dont know who pulls it out yet)
FM Bishop
June 13th, 2013, 04:22 AM
Watch Mason blocking a kill and the other faction attacking the gf so that we stay on 48h per day.
FM Bishop
June 13th, 2013, 07:58 AM
A statement that I read all the time in the game:
"Whittle down the number of one scum faction so that it has to kill the other scum faction."
Wrong... That's just wrong. You are always gunning for the strongest faction. And with their numbers advantage that is Town. Only when one of the scum factions is approaching majority would the other scum faction start to gun for it. That means the first goal of all scum factions is to deny town the absolute majority. After that the inter-scum quarrel starts, so that the other scum faction does not gain absolute majority.
FM Monroe
June 13th, 2013, 08:45 AM
It's not wrong. If one scum faction waits too long, the other can take the first shot and put the one at a severe disadvantage. And once the town becomes completely disorganised they're no longer as much of a threat even if they do have a tiny majority, which is not there to stay anyway with double night kills that can land on them.
Scum factions can also hit each other by accident, and when the player count gets really low it becomes tempting for the scum teams to eliminate hostile night kills if they're confident that one of them can direct the town during the day.
Regardless, when they're about to lose their absolute majority, the town will lose if they try to eliminate a faction with 2 members while leaving a faction with 3+ unattended (see FM 12). Keeping the opposition even and forcing a tight competition until the very end is their best bet to stay in the game.
And hitting confirmed scum to lynch is of course safer than picking a random target based on a hunch.
FM Ferengi
June 13th, 2013, 02:41 PM
Vote Tally:
(apologies, I thought I posted this already)
FM Dunn (1): FM Dunn
FM Phelps (1): FM Cafarelli
FM Ackerman (6): FM Phelps, FM Bishop, FM Hogeboom, FM Monroe, FM Ballard, FM Lichtmann
FM Ackerman's COM is 42shadow42!
FM Monroe
June 13th, 2013, 03:00 PM
That Ackerman's first game? He hasn't been doing too bad after the first 2 days.
FM Ferengi
June 13th, 2013, 03:14 PM
That Ackerman's first game? He hasn't been doing too bad after the first 2 days.
I think he was actually in FM17. Roronoa Zoro the jester , if I remember correctly.
FM Bishop
June 13th, 2013, 03:36 PM
It's not wrong. If one scum faction waits too long, the other can take the first shot and put the one at a severe disadvantage. And once the town becomes completely disorganised they're no longer as much of a threat even if they do have a tiny majority, which is not there to stay anyway with double night kills that can land on them.The point is that the weaker scum faction has no qualms in gunning down the stronger scum faction. And if the stronger scum faction shoots back at the weaker one, they are basically screwing themselves as they give back the absolute majority to the town. And that's a situation they want to avoid. (Look at FMXIII - orange Mafia pretty much had to kill red as there was only 1 orange left and had to make sure that red can't afford to kill him as scum would lose majority that way = dead Devourer; I would have started to gun for red sooner in Tarkin's place though.)
Scum factions can also hit each other by accident, and when the player count gets really low it becomes tempting for the scum teams to eliminate hostile night kills if they're confident that one of them can direct the town during the day.That situation only becomes relevant when there is only one member of the other scum faction left. Otherwise it could end in straight up 4 scum deaths at night, handing town the win.
Regardless, when they're about to lose their absolute majority, the town will lose if they try to eliminate a faction with 2 members while leaving a faction with 3+ unattended (see FM 12). Keeping the opposition even and forcing a tight competition until the very end is their best bet to stay in the game.
I do agree on that point. But that is a situation where town basically gave away the chance to win on their own. They are reliant on the actions of scum (aka them shooting each other).
But that is actually the opposite of what was proposed in day chat. They wanted to nearly extinct the mafia, so that the Mafia starts shooting at cult. That's not really keeping the numbers even.
And hitting confirmed scum to lynch is of course safer than picking a random target based on a hunch.Has nothing to do with my point, but I agree. "Confirmed" however isn't as guaranteed as you would wish most of the times.
FM Bishop
June 13th, 2013, 03:38 PM
Deadlynches only take place during the day and ghost (night) actions only during the night?
FM Ferengi
June 13th, 2013, 04:24 PM
Deadlynches only take place during the day and ghost (night) actions only during the night?
Deadlynches for COMs are supposed to happen once each day and once each night, except I got a bit behind schedule since I was traveling. Night actions, of course, can only happen during the night.
Alphege
June 13th, 2013, 05:49 PM
Vote Tally:
(apologies, I thought I posted this already)
FM Dunn (1): FM Dunn
FM Phelps (1): FM Cafarelli
FM Ackerman (6): FM Phelps, FM Bishop, FM Hogeboom, FM Monroe, FM Ballard, FM Lichtmann
FM Ackerman's COM is 42shadow42!
Not surprised. Good play.
FM Bishop
June 13th, 2013, 05:53 PM
-deadlynch FM Rose
FM Ferengi
June 13th, 2013, 09:04 PM
Vote Tally:
FM Rose (1): FM Bishop
FM Rose has been lynched! FM Rose's COM is NumberTwo.
FM Cajetan
June 13th, 2013, 09:42 PM
Do the hosts make Gerik scum on purpose?
Alphege
June 13th, 2013, 09:44 PM
Yes. And Yayap.
FM Donnelly
June 13th, 2013, 09:46 PM
Do the hosts make Gerik scum on purpose?
I asked myself the same thing when I saw my role.
Also, in case anyone was wondering, this version of the blackmailer is strong on the surface, but is actually astonishingly weak. :(
FM Donnelly
June 13th, 2013, 09:53 PM
I asked myself the same thing when I saw my role.
Also, in case anyone was wondering, this version of the blackmailer is strong on the surface, but is actually astonishingly weak. :(
Appears strong on the surface, I guess I should say.
FM Ferengi
June 13th, 2013, 10:06 PM
Do the hosts make Gerik scum on purpose?
All role assignments were determined based on random.org. It was just the luck of the draw that Gerik rolled scum again.
FM Donnelly
June 13th, 2013, 10:09 PM
Going through deadchat backwards. Felt compelled to respond to this.
In a normal FM false claiming poisoned as town could have earned you MVP. With the right people. Just imagine the mafia would have started to send messages to that guy via drugs and sooner or later they would have revealed teammates to him. Free lynch scum.
No one even thought about that possibility not even my own team.
Wrong. I mentioned the possibility several times. It was the only reason I never recommended sending soma messages to him. I was worried he might be town who was hoping we would do exactly that.
FM Ackerman
June 13th, 2013, 10:18 PM
Appears strong on the surface, I guess I should say.
Knew you was scum, but the mayor wouldn't believe me, nobody believes me about anything ....
FM Phelps
June 13th, 2013, 10:31 PM
and the Escort is still around. And another 2 Deltas gone. Lol. Savages gonna win for sure.
FM Cafarelli
June 13th, 2013, 11:53 PM
ha i knew you were the blackmailer. sad that my check was in vain now.
FM Cafarelli
June 13th, 2013, 11:55 PM
also mafia will attack savages next night SO much
if not they give away their win
FM Cafarelli
June 14th, 2013, 12:00 AM
omg couldn't you replace leary...
FM Ferengi
June 14th, 2013, 12:03 AM
omg couldn't you replace leary...
FM Leary PM'ed me saying he wished to suicide and confirmed this multiple times when I asked if he was sure. He then went on to COM claim (which is against the rules) since he had already sent in his action to suicide...
FM Cafarelli
June 14th, 2013, 12:07 AM
lol... where did he COM claim at night?
FM Cafarelli
June 14th, 2013, 12:09 AM
hey your wolfram alpha link doesn't work
is day now 24h?
FM Ferengi
June 14th, 2013, 12:20 AM
lol... where did he COM claim at night?
He COM claimed in daychat. But all suicides/modkills happen in the suicides level of the OoO.
hey your wolfram alpha link doesn't work
is day now 24h?
Yes, the rules state that when there are 13 players or less, the game transitions to 24 hour days and 24 hour nights.
FM Bishop
June 14th, 2013, 12:47 AM
Kalou is the killing Savage.
FM Phelps
June 14th, 2013, 12:52 AM
also mafia will attack savages next night SO much
if not they give away their win
They thought Ackerman was savage. He was calling Donelly scum last day. That's why they shot him. Gerik always plays like that. Somebody calls him out as scum. He tries to kill him quick. Lol. Depsite going for the more reasonable kill the Escort. "shrugs"
FM Cafarelli
June 14th, 2013, 01:15 AM
lol yes he also killed me when i figured he was the blackmailer^^
FM Bishop
June 14th, 2013, 01:22 AM
Savages: Fontaine, Galletta, Kalou, Rose
FM Cafarelli
June 14th, 2013, 01:25 AM
-check fm galetta
FM Bishop
June 14th, 2013, 01:36 AM
The Savage GF can't by lynched at day anymore. Cult + Evil Neutrals have absolute majority.
Cult won the game by now. Either Mafia or Town will get lynched today because of aforementioned majority. Even if the Mafia then manages to kill the Savage GF, Cult and Evil Neutrals still retain absolute majority. The Corrupt Journalist and the Witch made it clear that they will not side with the Mafia.
If I were Mafia I would be blackmailing the Witch into not voting with the Cult. I would state above reasoning and tell the Witch that if she doesn't vote out a Savage I would send out the hidden Mafia to kill her - making her lose.
The Savage can't really make the same threat as they would be throwing away their own pretty high chance to win, if they eat the Witch alive.
FM Bishop
June 14th, 2013, 03:26 AM
Upon reading the day chat I don't think that Galletta is Savage anymore.
The day chat is really weird... I really looks like the Savages aren't at full strength.
FM Hogeboom
June 14th, 2013, 03:38 AM
I know where Ackerman lives.
12217
FM Phelps
June 14th, 2013, 04:06 AM
Maybe one Savage is perma afk?
FM Monroe
June 14th, 2013, 04:41 AM
Kalou is the killing Savage.
What, really?
Damn the witch then.. lol.
FM Donnelly
June 14th, 2013, 05:41 AM
They thought Ackerman was savage. He was calling Donelly scum last day. That's why they shot him. Gerik always plays like that. Somebody calls him out as scum. He tries to kill him quick. Lol. Depsite going for the more reasonable kill the Escort. "shrugs"
Wrong. I actually had no problem with Ackerman calling me scum. In fact, I thought we could've gotten him lynched because he already looked scummy from not claiming the block from Mason. But we thought he might be the Savage Godfather and decided to check by attacking him, figuring even if he still had his vest, we could kill him the next night and the suicide brought on by his death would even out the kpn.
lol yes he also killed me when i figured he was the blackmailer^^
We didn't kill you just because you thought I was blackmailer. I actually wanted to kill you well before that, but for some reason Phelps thought you were likely to be mislynched, even though I told him numerous times it wasn't going to happen. When you didn't get lynched after several days, the rest of the mafia finally agreed to kill you, which just so happened to be after you FoSed me.
FM Donnelly
June 14th, 2013, 05:44 AM
They thought Ackerman was savage. He was calling Donelly scum last day. That's why they shot him. Gerik always plays like that. Somebody calls him out as scum. He tries to kill him quick. Lol. Depsite going for the more reasonable kill the Escort. "shrugs"
Oh, and I forgot to mention that we figured the savages might kill the escort, like they did last time. Though I also thought there was a pretty good chance of me being killed.
FM Cafarelli
June 14th, 2013, 05:58 AM
I know where Ackerman lives.
12217
no permissions...
We didn't kill you just because you thought I was blackmailer. I actually wanted to kill you well before that, but for some reason Phelps thought you were likely to be mislynched, even though I told him numerous times it wasn't going to happen. When you didn't get lynched after several days, the rest of the mafia finally agreed to kill you, which just so happened to be after you FoSed me.
yes i know i've aleady said that i think you killed me mainly because of my good influence on parker
FM Monroe
June 14th, 2013, 06:02 AM
Well at least this explains how CmG knew your COM :p
I feel weird saying this, but since he replaced back in, Ryan has really been on top of this game and steering it to a scum victory while retaining enough credibility during the day to avoid too much suspicion. His night actions towards the end were also quite solid.
I think I would nominate him for scum MVP based on that. Though the night chats might convince me otherwise. Galloway is another candidate, even though I did suspect him. I'm not particularly impressed by the other scum from what I've seen. It seems they were just riding along with the town's cluelessness and didn't actively cause its downfall with anything other than night actions.
FM Monroe
June 14th, 2013, 06:04 AM
I would have pushed harder for a Donnelly lynch if the answer to my question about the blackmail suicides had been different. While Donnelly got blocked night 4, he couldn't have been sent to blackmail someone to begin with because Colmyer still suicided that night.
The double blackmail suicides hit the town rather hard.
FM Phelps
June 14th, 2013, 06:17 AM
Wrong. I actually had no problem with Ackerman calling me scum. In fact, I thought we could've gotten him lynched because he already looked scummy from not claiming the block from Mason. But we thought he might be the Savage Godfather and decided to check by attacking him, figuring even if he still had his vest, we could kill him the next night and the suicide brought on by his death would even out the kpn.
We didn't kill you just because you thought I was blackmailer. I actually wanted to kill you well before that, but for some reason Phelps thought you were likely to be mislynched, even though I told him numerous times it wasn't going to happen. When you didn't get lynched after several days, the rest of the mafia finally agreed to kill you, which just so happened to be after you FoSed me.
Lol. Why kill an invest when you can drug the whole game? His death gave town a lot of information which they wouldn't have get if we didn't kill him. He was a good shield as long he was alive. He would have remained a scummy target until the end and i told you guys numerous times to start getting active in the night chat and formulate your thoughts in better. Guess what never happened.
But oh i shouldn't say too much or the hate qq will start again :P
FM Phelps
June 14th, 2013, 06:17 AM
I would have pushed harder for a Donnelly lynch if the answer to my question about the blackmail suicides had been different. While Donnelly got blocked night 4, he couldn't have been sent to blackmail someone to begin with because Colmyer still suicided that night.
The double blackmail suicides hit the town rather hard.
You can't fix stupid.
FM Donnelly
June 14th, 2013, 06:33 AM
Lol. Why kill an invest when you can drug the whole game? His death gave town a lot of information which they wouldn't have get if we didn't kill him. He was a good shield as long he was alive. He would have remained a scummy target until the end and i told you guys numerous times to start getting active in the night chat and formulate your thoughts in better. Guess what never happened.
But oh i shouldn't say too much or the hate qq will start again :P
Because that's a waste of night actions. You already used over seven night actions suppressing him. That's more than a full night's worth of actions just to stop one person. It's so inefficient and would prevent us from doing other things with our dd. They were not ever going to lynch him. The mayor even said he was only fosing caf in order to fool scum like you into not killing him hoping he'd get lynched.
FM Bishop
June 14th, 2013, 07:05 AM
Savage and Mafia Godfather played pretty well in my opinion when it comes to the day chat.
Can't say anything about the night actions.
"Waste of night actions" ... what about my blackmail? XD
FM Phelps
June 14th, 2013, 07:19 AM
If he doesn't get drugged somebody else gets instead. It's clearly not a waste, because it renders his night ability completely useless. Which gave us a guaranteed useful action for the drug dealer on a proven investigative role. Unlike fake soma transfers to other random people, fake blackmails which just autoclear people as non mafia, fake swaps which weren't fully utilizied.
Even if we look at the costs of opportunity, feedback blocking a town investigative role is the strongest drugging a DD could do in this setup.
Your argumentation is just wrong
Oh and Parker said a lot of things over the course of the game. I wouldn't take everything for gold she said. She flip flopped every day from one opinion to the next. picking one argument out of many is a bit awkward. A Misslynch on Caf would have been nice yeah. But like i said having a claimed investigator around who doesn't die is very suspicious. Sooner or later somebody would have gotten rid of him.
FM Monroe
June 14th, 2013, 10:14 AM
I hope you don't mean to say Kalou did well in day chat..
He started off lurking hard, sheep voting every single day, then buddied with parker after the reveal and pointed at a few people randomly saying they were scum without arguments.
He was the scummiest of all the lurker sheep if you ask me.
FM Ferengi
June 14th, 2013, 11:32 AM
What, really?
Damn the witch then.. lol.
This was actually really fun to watch for the hosts.
"Yay savages are finally going to have a successful action!"
"Wait, Monroe is blocking the guy who is going to kill him!!!"
"LOL because of the witch, the kill can go through!"
(since the night actions actually came in this order)
FM Monroe
June 14th, 2013, 11:47 AM
That witching might just have been the one action that denied a town victory.
Fragos is so evil.
FM Ferengi
June 14th, 2013, 11:51 AM
That witching might just have been the one action that denied a town victory.
Fragos is so evil.
But how would you have known there was a missing kill and push for Kalou's lynch?
Unless you're saying that by simply being alive, you would have led town to a victory :P
FM Cafarelli
June 14th, 2013, 12:25 PM
switzerland can you link me to where leary Com claimed i didn't find it. he only said something to creed
also imo kalou and kelso scummiest lurkers, i've said i'd lynch one of them when they lynched the doc
FM Ferengi
June 14th, 2013, 12:29 PM
switzerland can you link me to where leary Com claimed i didn't find it. he only said something to creed
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20806-Day-9?p=334143#post334143
FM Cafarelli
June 14th, 2013, 12:32 PM
oh that D
meh if i knew more COMs i might've found it^^
man i don't like people who give up too soon
FM Phelps
June 14th, 2013, 12:34 PM
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20806-Day-9?p=334143#post334143
Switzerland can you bring me a pizza with salami, champignons, extra cheese, pepperoni and oregano plz?
FM Ferengi
June 14th, 2013, 12:52 PM
champignons
You mean mushrooms? :P
FM Monroe
June 14th, 2013, 01:07 PM
But how would you have known there was a missing kill and push for Kalou's lynch?
Unless you're saying that by simply being alive, you would have led town to a victory :P
I don't say we would've roflstomped them, I meant we'd still have had a chance.
I immediately discounted the town win as soon as I got in here, remember? :p
Also looking at what their roles turned out to be, Kalou and Donnelly being two of my main FoS would have been very helpful for Parker and may have avoided Lichtmann's lynch.
FM Monroe
June 14th, 2013, 01:11 PM
I think I would've tried to push a Kalou lynched thinking he was witch.
Forum Mafia GM
June 14th, 2013, 01:13 PM
Night 10
- Douse Leary
and
- Ignight asap
worked with parker... time to try with him
>: )
built this one into the RP.
FM Monroe
June 14th, 2013, 01:18 PM
If I were (living) town, I would totally go with Rose's plan to lynch Ryan.
He's the only player who is confirmed to be able to win with both scum factions. Lynching him is crucial, because he won't die at night and will use his ability to ensure town deaths rather than scum deaths.
FM Ferengi
June 14th, 2013, 01:58 PM
If I were (living) town, I would totally go with Rose's plan to lynch Ryan.
He's the only player who is confirmed to be able to win with both scum factions. Lynching him is crucial, because he won't die at night and will use his ability to ensure town deaths rather than scum deaths.
Yes, this is the smart move for town... But I don't see any votes on Ryan... Hmm...
FM Donnelly
June 14th, 2013, 03:55 PM
If he doesn't get drugged somebody else gets instead. It's clearly not a waste, because it renders his night ability completely useless. Which gave us a guaranteed useful action for the drug dealer on a proven investigative role. Unlike fake soma transfers to other random people, fake blackmails which just autoclear people as non mafia, fake swaps which weren't fully utilizied.
Even if we look at the costs of opportunity, feedback blocking a town investigative role is the strongest drugging a DD could do in this setup.
Your argumentation is just wrong
Oh and Parker said a lot of things over the course of the game. I wouldn't take everything for gold she said. She flip flopped every day from one opinion to the next. picking one argument out of many is a bit awkward. A Misslynch on Caf would have been nice yeah. But like i said having a claimed investigator around who doesn't die is very suspicious. Sooner or later somebody would have gotten rid of him.
No, they wouldn't have. They'd keep him alive, if nothing else, to essentially roleblock our DD every night. And if they managed to kill our DD, they'd test him to see if he investigated someone, and when he did, he'd be back to confirmed town status again.
I also disagree that it's the strongest thing DD can do. It is strong, yes, but other things can be even more powerful. Did you notice how Lichtmann claiming witched was a factor in getting him lynched? That was a drug that directly resulted in a mislynch. Not that every drug would have done that, but if even one or two of them had gotten someone lynched, that would be well worth it, and way more beneficial to us than just roleblocking one guy for a bunch of nights.
There is also the possibility of using the fake soma to communicate directly with neutrals like the witch and the arsonist which could have been very powerful. Unfortunately Cohen died before we could be sure of whether or not we could trust him. If he had survived longer, though, we might have been in contact with him by now and possibly have coordinated enough to ensure he only killed our enemies, which could have ended the game in a mafia win by now.
Yes, this is the smart move for town... But I don't see any votes on Ryan... Hmm...
If savages are at maximum capacity (4) right now, then scum has a majority. And neither scum faction wants to kill the witch. Not yet, anyway. They'll only kill him if they think it will benefit them, which currently it doesn't except perhaps to take the heat off them for a day. But they don't even need that if they have a majority.
FM Donnelly
June 14th, 2013, 04:20 PM
Oh, and I'd like to use this opportunity to poke a bit of fun at everyone who was searching for brits in an attempt to find the blackmailer. I'm not British! I just like plays! Also, any of the 6 of us could write the blackmail, so I didn't even write all the blackmails. So even if I was British it would have been pretty hard to find me that way since I could just let someone else write/proofread it. :D
FM Phelps
June 15th, 2013, 01:10 AM
No, they wouldn't have. They'd keep him alive, if nothing else, to essentially roleblock our DD every night. And if they managed to kill our DD, they'd test him to see if he investigated someone, and when he did, he'd be back to confirmed town status again.
I also disagree that it's the strongest thing DD can do. It is strong, yes, but other things can be even more powerful. Did you notice how Lichtmann claiming witched was a factor in getting him lynched? That was a drug that directly resulted in a mislynch. Not that every drug would have done that, but if even one or two of them had gotten someone lynched, that would be well worth it, and way more beneficial to us than just roleblocking one guy for a bunch of nights.
There is also the possibility of using the fake soma to communicate directly with neutrals like the witch and the arsonist which could have been very powerful. Unfortunately Cohen died before we could be sure of whether or not we could trust him. If he had survived longer, though, we might have been in contact with him by now and possibly have coordinated enough to ensure he only killed our enemies, which could have ended the game in a mafia win by now.
If savages are at maximum capacity (4) right now, then scum has a majority. And neither scum faction wants to kill the witch. Not yet, anyway. They'll only kill him if they think it will benefit them, which currently it doesn't except perhaps to take the heat off them for a day. But they don't even need that if they have a majority.
Your suggestions for powerful uses of the DD need a lot of background information and a lot of luck. You need the right persons on the neutral roles. You need to find them at day. If you can do it others can do it as well. This combination might be strong but not in this setup with no consigliere.
A feedback surpress on a confirmed invest role needs not as many luck factors than the others and produces instantly results. Drug dealers are nice together with a consigliere. But without it 3/4 of the possible druggings are a liability.
FM Earle
June 15th, 2013, 01:12 AM
So CmG, why me?
FM Bishop
June 15th, 2013, 01:26 AM
Wrong thread earlier:
Seeing that Earle's role still wasn't revealed, I will deadlynch Fontaine.
FM Bishop
June 15th, 2013, 01:27 AM
Actually he was... I just didn't refresh the thread.
FM Bishop
June 15th, 2013, 01:31 AM
-track Chapman
FM Earle
June 15th, 2013, 01:43 AM
What about blackmail+drug combo of "do not post"? Promotes lurking.
FM Ferengi
June 15th, 2013, 01:58 AM
What about blackmail+drug combo of "do not post"? Promotes lurking.
I think this might be one of the inconsistencies that FM Donnelly mentioned earlier. The hosts did not allow a "do not post" blackmail because it would promote lurking which we deemed contrary to the spirit of FM. Used in conjunction with the DD's, it might make three people not post for a day, which is actually quite bad for the game.
FM Earle
June 15th, 2013, 02:09 AM
In that case blackmail "be the highest poster of the day"?
FM Phelps
June 15th, 2013, 02:41 AM
-Blackmail Earle into not doing logic errors in his posts! :P
FM Morgan
June 15th, 2013, 09:41 AM
At this point my brothers should recruit tonight. If the Mafia kills a townie then in the morning it will be 9 people, 4 of whom are Savages. Then they side with the Witch and simply lynch someone, and its GG.
FM Morgan
June 15th, 2013, 09:41 AM
Yes, I did just out the number of Savages. Yet you still shall not know who the big boss is.
FM Cafarelli
June 15th, 2013, 09:57 AM
do you really think mafia is so dumb and doesn't manage (or not even try) to kill a savage tonight?
FM Phelps
June 15th, 2013, 10:01 AM
They thought Ackerman was savage. Everything is possible!
FM Monroe
June 15th, 2013, 10:26 AM
Maybe Ryan will control the savage GF on Mason with a recruit and lulz will be had.
FM Morgan
June 15th, 2013, 10:49 AM
do you really think mafia is so dumb and doesn't manage (or not even try) to kill a savage tonight?
Doesn't mean they won't mess up.
FM Ferengi
June 15th, 2013, 10:51 AM
Tonight the witch is witching Mason onto an undisclosed mafia member..... Not sure if he thinks the mafia member is town or if he has already decided to side with the savages.
FM Monroe
June 15th, 2013, 03:17 PM
Stopping the mafia kill is actually bad for the town as well. It's probably intended.
FM Ferengi
June 16th, 2013, 01:09 AM
Dead Lynch Tally
FM Fontaine (1): FM Bishop
FM Fontaine has been deadlynched. FM Fontaine's COM is Superjack.
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 01:12 AM
Chapman did not visit anyone. I doubt he is a Savage PR.
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 01:13 AM
-deadlynch Galletta
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 01:32 AM
Witch obviously sided with the Savages and Galloway is practically outed as Mafia. At the very least to the Savages as their GF wasn't attacked. Time for Galloway to blackmail the Witch into lynching a Savage.
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 01:36 AM
Above is assuming that the Mafia kill as indeed blocked. If that isn't the case then blackmailing Ryan is still possible at cost of Galloway claiming Mafia.
FM Phelps
June 16th, 2013, 02:10 AM
Yeah i hope my team will shoot the witch for destroying their winning chances. Fuck you Fragos!
FM Phelps
June 16th, 2013, 02:12 AM
How can it be that a claimed witch is still alive and a possible savage gf gets lynched instead? How can they be so stupid?
FM Phelps
June 16th, 2013, 02:12 AM
How can it be that a claimed witch is still alive and a possible savage journalist gets lynched instead? How can they be so stupid?
fixed
FM Buchwalter
June 16th, 2013, 02:27 AM
How can it be that a claimed witch is still alive and a possible savage journalist gets lynched instead? How can they be so stupid?
This I agree with.
FM Buchwalter
June 16th, 2013, 02:31 AM
also i got 4 scums despite my reveal. you, cohen, buchwalter and dunn
I'm pretty sure Parker did not need your help in getting me lynched. The moment Parker revealed and said I had gotten the Soma I was a walking-deadman. The only question was rather I would be lynched before or after Earle.
FM Cafarelli
June 16th, 2013, 03:19 AM
sure after earle you'd be lynched anyway. but without me you wouldn't have been lynched so soon
the earle lynch wouldn't have been a TPR mislynch as i originally thought. but still it's much better to lynch you asap, before him
FM Cafarelli
June 16th, 2013, 03:19 AM
also galetta is only in the citizen pairing
FM Cafarelli
June 16th, 2013, 03:23 AM
-check fm kelso
FM Cafarelli
June 16th, 2013, 03:31 AM
hm maf and town should definitely lynch the witch or a savage today
savage won't be possible if they're 4
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 03:32 AM
If the Mafia manages to lynch the SGF then they are back in the game. A Savages would work as well. No lynch or anything else means that the Witch has to die. XD
That means that Cult has really good chances to win this. Today's (no-)lynch is a critical point.
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 03:33 AM
savage won't be possible if they're 4
Why?
FM Cafarelli
June 16th, 2013, 03:45 AM
because then savages + witch can block the lynch
FM Phelps
June 16th, 2013, 04:01 AM
If they shot the sgf last night. Savages gonna have some serious problems...
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 05:15 AM
because then savages + witch can block the lynch
As I said, you can blackmail the Witch. Mafia lost if they don't lynch a Savage today and Witch obviously kinda screwed them last night. So if the Witch is to blame for losing Mafia the game why not take her down as well?
FM Buchwalter
June 16th, 2013, 07:39 AM
Anyone have a list of the Deadlynches?
having it posted here would be nice.
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18561-Life-has-ended-and-it-was-good
FM Cafarelli
June 16th, 2013, 07:42 AM
hm yes that could work bishop
looks like they're lynching fontaine
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 12:26 PM
Funny enough lynching Witch is the best course of actions for Town. Lynching Savage is the best course of action for Mafia.
If the Witch is lynched we have this situation: 4v2v3
Many things can happen but if both scum factions kill each other we get this: 3v1v3
Town will want to lynch a Savage now. If they get the SGF, chances are that both scum factions hit each other again at night, handing town the win.
I don't get why a Mafia should get lynched if they managed to hit SGF. Makes no sense at all. Actually lynching the Witch would be the best action by far. If Mafia hits the SGF again and the Savages kill a Mafia it's 2v1v3. If town then lynches a Savage with Mafia, they are in a prime position to steal away the win.
FM Cajetan
June 16th, 2013, 12:30 PM
Yup, Town has a better chance of winning than people think.
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 12:47 PM
Lol @Kalou
That's all I have to say.
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 12:50 PM
Ryan and Mason. Listen up
If we get off a Chapman lynch here are your instructions.
mason block kelso
Ryan control mendez to kill a town like galloway or rose or mason
if we don't get Chapman
mason block chapman
ryan control mendez to attack a towny
this is to try and stop the mafia kill
m
RYAN IF YOU FAIL TO DO AS I SAY I WILL PERSONALLY MAKE SURE YOU LOSE WITH US.
Scum will not vote up ryan. Unless they're completely retarded
To town. It makes sense to follow this plan. Lynching the sgf is dumb cuz maf is going to kill me anyway. If my plan works, you can always lynch whoever you think is the sgf to get a double kill
this is the best action to do.
scum aren't going to let town win. Guaranteed. Savages ate super sorry about threatening the balance with donnelly, but he was warned.
Okay, I can't resist...
His plan does not work on so many levels.
Way to claim Savage GF.
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 12:50 PM
Kinda sucks to be Witch now. :laugh:
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 01:04 PM
Lol, they failed to recruit again. They tried to recruit Mendez last night.
Savages: Kalou, Rose, Fontaine
Mafia: Mendez, Galloway
Town: Gallette, Chapman, Kelso, Mason
Witch: Ryan
Cult thinks that Chapman is mafia and that Galloway is town. That is why they think Kelso or Mendez is GF.
Town is in a much better situation than they anticipate. If Kalou gets lynched today, town won't get converted, which is the best thing that could happen to them.
So only 1 Cult will be left. That means the Mafia should be gunning for town -> Mason. The Cult will probably go for Chapman and kill him - or they really go for the Witch.
Let's assume the former: 1v2v2 + W
I see Witch switching sides. XD
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 01:14 PM
Self-targets aren't allowed when witching. No solo victory for the Witch.
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 01:19 PM
Incredible how the Cult imploded with just that one post.
He could have converted at night if he had not revealed, making sure that there are at least 2 Savages left. Now the Savages are down to 1. Wow, just wow.
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 01:21 PM
Guess who will be sending out fake Soma tonight.
FM Cajetan
June 16th, 2013, 01:22 PM
Damn it Kalou!
FM Cajetan
June 16th, 2013, 01:49 PM
Isn't this how the CP9 lost last game? Premature ejaculation
FM Buchwalter
June 16th, 2013, 03:03 PM
-deathlych FM Buchwalter
Or is it called deadlynch? deathlynch sounds cooler so I will run with that.
FM Buchwalter
June 16th, 2013, 03:05 PM
-deathlych FM Buchwalter
Or is it called deadlynch? deathlynch sounds cooler so I will run with that.
-deathlynch FM Buchwalter
Learn to spell Buchwalter!
FM Cajetan
June 16th, 2013, 03:09 PM
-deathlynch FM Buchwalter
Learn to spell Buchwalter!
-deadlynch FM Buchwalter
Learn to spell deadlynch!
FM Buchwalter
June 16th, 2013, 03:22 PM
-deadlynch FM Buchwalter
Learn to spell deadlynch!
deathlynch sound cooler!
By the way, who are you? Morgan? Ballard?
FM Cafarelli
June 16th, 2013, 03:28 PM
na last fm that that was pirates fault^^
FM Monroe
June 16th, 2013, 04:24 PM
I stand by my prognosis of what I said was going to happen..
- Savages bite the dust because the mafia leads a lynch on the savage godfather
- Witch becomes a victim of "safe lynch" while the remaining mafia and savages try to preserve themselves
- Mafia wins 1v1 against town
FM Lichtmann
June 16th, 2013, 04:44 PM
I stand by my prognosis of what I said was going to happen..
- Savages bite the dust because the mafia leads a lynch on the savage godfather
- Witch becomes a victim of "safe lynch" while the remaining mafia and savages try to preserve themselves
- Mafia wins 1v1 against town
in b4 we have cit wins tie option XD
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 04:49 PM
in b4 we have cit wins tie option XD
You only have that option when there are more of a single power role than overall citizens in the game.
FM Cajetan
June 16th, 2013, 05:06 PM
deathlynch sound cooler!
By the way, who are you? Morgan? Ballard?
Ballard :)
I like my Savage account more cause I can read Deadchat and Savage chat
FM Lichtmann
June 16th, 2013, 05:15 PM
Ballard :)
I like my Savage account more cause I can read Deadchat and Savage chat
give me your account and pass right now i want to see it
FM Cajetan
June 16th, 2013, 05:30 PM
give me your account and pass right now i want to see it
It's very boring. I just read it to check night actions and swear/cheer
FM Cajetan
June 16th, 2013, 05:31 PM
I also use it to check if recruits were successful x_x
FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 05:33 PM
Any questions for me? I've chilled out. I still think you guys are if idiots. Savages are painfully obvious. I'm giving you a chance to find the Mafia. But whatever. As long as we get our recruitment in. We'll still have two members.
Why doesn't he get that the Cult can't recruit if he dies?
FM Lichtmann
June 16th, 2013, 06:12 PM
swizerland if the savage gf dies can we all lurk in the cult chat, mafia chat?
at least be able to see it but not post?
FM Ferengi
June 16th, 2013, 06:13 PM
Oh and ryan was my first recruit. I actually wanted to kill night 1 but miss didn't let me
This makes me really sad. The cohost mistakenly told the savages that they could not kill on N1. I feel like I mentioned this already, but all these errors... D: aaaagh!
FM Ferengi
June 16th, 2013, 06:16 PM
swizerland if the savage gf dies can we all lurk in the cult chat, mafia chat?
at least be able to see it but not post?
You can see a chat when all members of that faction have been eliminated. Otherwise you will have to wait until the end of the game.
FM Cajetan
June 16th, 2013, 07:13 PM
-deadlynch FM Fontaine
Is he actually new?
FM Lichtmann
June 16th, 2013, 07:28 PM
-deadlynch FM Fontaine
FM Buchwalter
June 16th, 2013, 11:40 PM
So did Kalou get lynched? yes or no?
Looks like Mason did the hammer vote, but I could be wrong.
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20935-Day-11?p=336883#post336883
FM Cafarelli
June 17th, 2013, 12:09 AM
yes, thread is locked
FM Bishop
June 17th, 2013, 01:21 AM
New odds for winning the game!
Town: 40%
Mafia: 50%
Cult: 10%
Witch: 10%
FM Bishop
June 17th, 2013, 01:28 AM
-deadlynch FM Fontaine
Is he actually new?
-deadlynch FM Fontaine
Dead Lynch Tally
FM Fontaine (1): FM Bishop
FM Fontaine has been deadlynched. FM Fontaine's COM is Superjack.
Way to go guys! Let me get my deadlynches if you can't be bothered to read the dead chat anyway.
-track Rose
FM Bishop
June 17th, 2013, 01:46 AM
4v2v1+1 (includes suicides, excludes night kills)
Lea(D)ry's suicide... if we had the same lynches, Town would have a much better chance to win this.
FM Bishop
June 17th, 2013, 01:46 AM
I'll try again.
-deadlynch Galletta
FM Buchwalter
June 17th, 2013, 03:30 AM
Way to go guys! Let me get my deadlynches if you can't be bothered to read the dead chat anyway.
Nicely spotted. Does that mean their votes are void and I deathlynched my self?
FM Phelps
June 17th, 2013, 03:33 AM
-deadlynch galetta
FM Buchwalter
June 17th, 2013, 03:34 AM
Way to go guys! Let me get my deadlynches if you can't be bothered to read the dead chat anyway.
But yes it has been asked a few times.
Anyone have a list of the Deadlynches?
having it posted here would be nice.
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18561-Life-has-ended-and-it-was-good
Also: -deathlynch FM Galletta
I will just sheep you.
FM Ferengi
June 17th, 2013, 03:42 AM
Deadlynch Tally
(Starting at #666 counts toward tonight's Deadlynch since they were submitted after Night started)
FM Galletta (1): FM Bishop
FM Buchwalter (1): FM Buchwalter
FM Fontaine (2): FM Cajetan, FM Lichtmann
FM Fontaine has been deadlynched! His COM is superjack!
FM Phelps
June 17th, 2013, 03:44 AM
-deadlynch Galetta
FM Ferengi
June 17th, 2013, 03:45 AM
@Buchwalter, please feel free to start a table of deadlynch revealed COMs if it pleases you. I would be happy to sticky the thread in deadchat.
FM Phelps
June 17th, 2013, 03:48 AM
Hopfully the most pro town savage dies tonight and not just FAPMAN or FONTAINE. Bluergh. Don't abuse the modkill mechanic to get an afk scum out of the game...
FM Ferengi
June 17th, 2013, 03:49 AM
4v2v1+1 (includes suicides, excludes night kills)
Lea(D)ry's suicide... if we had the same lynches, Town would have a much better chance to win this.
Agreed. It's not over until it's over!
But disagreed to some extent. If town had one more member then scum would be less likely to gun for other scum at night. It's kind of a fine line to walk.
FM Ferengi
June 17th, 2013, 03:49 AM
Hopfully the most pro town savage dies tonight and not just FAPMAN or FONTAINE. Bluergh. Don't abuse the modkill mechanic to get an afk scum out of the game...
It is left completely up to chance, as you can see in the Cult Roulette Thread.
FM Phelps
June 17th, 2013, 03:51 AM
Let me type it on random.org and i believe you :P
FM Phelps
June 17th, 2013, 03:56 AM
Let me type it on random.org and i believe you :P
Just saw the roulette thread. Anyways there is no real chance in this. If we think people play rational.
FM Buchwalter
June 17th, 2013, 04:49 AM
@Buchwalter, please feel free to start a table of deadlynch revealed COMs if it pleases you. I would be happy to sticky the thread in deadchat.
I may just have to do that, sigh.
Also, we deathlynched Fontaine again?
FM Buchwalter
June 17th, 2013, 05:07 AM
FM Parkers COM name is Titus.
Deadlynch Tally:
FM McKelty (1): FM Morgan
FM Mendez (2): FM Dunn, FM Hogeboom
FM Donnelly (1): FM Monroe
FM Mendez has been deadlynched.
FM Mendez's COM is Burnt Eskimo
Deadlynch Tally:
FM Donnelly (2): FM Monroe, FM Cafarelli
FM Rose (1): FM Phelps
FM Donnelly's COM is Gerik.
Vote Tally:
FM Earle (4): FM Carruthers, FM Hogeboom, FM Monroe, FM Buchwalter
FM Rose (2): FM Spartacus, FM Black
FM Earle's COM is Nicole.
Vote Tally:
(apologies, I thought I posted this already)
FM Dunn (1): FM Dunn
FM Phelps (1): FM Cafarelli
FM Ackerman (6): FM Phelps, FM Bishop, FM Hogeboom, FM Monroe, FM Ballard, FM Lichtmann
FM Ackerman's COM is 42shadow42!
Vote Tally:
FM Rose (1): FM Bishop
FM Rose has been lynched! FM Rose's COM is NumberTwo.
Dead Lynch Tally
FM Fontaine (1): FM Bishop
FM Fontaine has been deadlynched. FM Fontaine's COM is Superjack.
Give me a second and I will make a table for it.
FM Buchwalter
June 17th, 2013, 05:17 AM
Give me a second and I will make a table for it.
Here it is:
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20972-Deathlynch-COM-List?p=336999#post336999
There was a few more then was known, but I did not read all of deathchat again. So do tell me who I missed.
FM Cajetan
June 17th, 2013, 03:15 PM
LOL oops on the Fontaine deadlynch
FM Lichtmann
June 17th, 2013, 03:53 PM
LOL oops on the Fontaine deadlynch
go join my roulette game i need more ppl
FM Cajetan
June 17th, 2013, 05:09 PM
go join my roulette game i need more ppl
only because your rage post was the best post in the entire FM ;D
FM Lichtmann
June 17th, 2013, 05:40 PM
only because your rage post was the best post in the entire FM ;D
i cant wait for post game im probally gonna rage more or at least grill titus for being bad mayor. but then again sucked as doc....
i just think post game is gonna be intresting to talk aobut the least
FM Buchwalter
June 17th, 2013, 11:28 PM
i cant wait for post game im probally gonna rage more or at least grill titus for being bad mayor. but then again sucked as doc....
i just think post game is gonna be intresting to talk aobut the least
Did you ever share your list of actions? I have not read all the days, so I may have missed it. Would you be so kind as to posting it here?
FM Buchwalter
June 17th, 2013, 11:43 PM
When deathlynching someone that have been replaced, will we be told all COMs and when they were in control?
FM Ferengi
June 17th, 2013, 11:46 PM
When deathlynching someone that have been replaced, will we be told all COMs and when they were in control?
No. The previous people who had to be replaced are dead to me. :mad:
FM Ferengi
June 17th, 2013, 11:47 PM
No. The previous people who had to be replaced are dead to me. :mad:
It will, however, be revealed in the epilogue. :mad:
FM Buchwalter
June 17th, 2013, 11:53 PM
It will, however, be revealed in the epilogue. :mad:
Ok I can follow that way of thinking!
Just wondering about Earle as he said he was replaced on his last day. Was it true that we was replaced? I admit that I did not read that whole day.
FM Ferengi
June 17th, 2013, 11:54 PM
Ok I can follow that way of thinking!
Just wondering about Earle as he said he was replaced on his last day. Was it true that we was replaced? I admit that I did not read that whole day.
Earle lied about being replaced :p
FM Buchwalter
June 17th, 2013, 11:56 PM
Earle lied about being replaced :p
Ok that was my guess, Thanks for clearing it up. ^^
FM Ferengi
June 18th, 2013, 12:40 AM
Deadlynch Tally:
FM Galletta (3): FM Bishop, FM Phelps, FM Buchwalter
FM Galletta has been deadlynched! FM Galletta's COM is Mateo.
FM Buchwalter
June 18th, 2013, 12:45 AM
Deadlynch Tally:
FM Galletta (3): FM Bishop, FM Phelps, FM Buchwalter
FM Galletta has been deadlynched! FM Galletta's COM is Mateo.
The whole thing about coloring the last voter red, it does not really made sense here as we are just doing a majority vote, there is no hammer.
Apart from that need to figure out how to get edit permission still, can not edit my pretty list.
Also: -deathlynch FM Buchwalter
Since only one has been close to guessing it.
FM Ferengi
June 18th, 2013, 12:50 AM
The whole thing about coloring the last voter red, it does not really made sense here as we are just doing a majority vote, there is no hammer.
Apart from that need to figure out how to get edit permission still, can not edit my pretty list.
Also: -deathlynch FM Buchwalter
Since only one has been close to guessing it.
I guess it's just habit to color the "hammer" voter red. Or maybe it's because you're mafia! Your true colors are showing through :P
Can you PM FM Game Master about it since I don't have the power to edit permissions?
FM Buchwalter
June 18th, 2013, 01:04 AM
I guess it's just habit to color the "hammer" voter red. Or maybe it's because you're mafia! Your true colors are showing through :P
Can you PM FM Game Master about it since I don't have the power to edit permissions?
I send 'em a message a right after posting that post, just waiting for a reply.
FM Cohen
June 18th, 2013, 01:06 AM
testing... check 2
fixed
FM Ferengi
June 18th, 2013, 01:07 AM
I send 'em a message a right after posting that post, just waiting for a reply.
Maybe you can also help come up with the last few nicknames. The game seems to be wrapping up soon (within the next few days) and I would hate it if everyone except just a few people have nicknames. Seems like getting picked last for sports teams, etc. :(
FM Buchwalter
June 18th, 2013, 01:16 AM
testing... check
Yay! Edit powers!
Maybe you can also help come up with the last few nicknames. The game seems to be wrapping up soon (within the next few days) and I would hate it if everyone except just a few people have nicknames. Seems like getting picked last for sports teams, etc. :(
I'm not good at this really, but I will look over the list again now.
FM Cafarelli
June 18th, 2013, 01:28 AM
nooooooooooooo i was drugged again
FM Cafarelli
June 18th, 2013, 01:40 AM
lynch witch seems best for now. lynching cult is instant lose
FM Ferengi
June 18th, 2013, 01:50 AM
nooooooooooooo i was drugged again
ehm what?
FM Cafarelli
June 18th, 2013, 02:23 AM
my feedback is gone...
FM Buchwalter
June 18th, 2013, 02:40 AM
my feedback is gone...
ROFL!
FM Bishop
June 18th, 2013, 03:36 AM
I certainly was not drugged! Rose is the last Savage, just like I said. Mendez got no vest no more.
FM Earle
June 18th, 2013, 04:16 AM
Godfather
[Soma Dealer]
[Hidden Savage]
[Hidden Savage]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
Witch
or
Godfather
[Soma Dealer]
[Hidden Savage]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
Witch
Not much hiding to do anyway. I think Ryan's position now is better than before where he might be revenge killed (by losing team) or fun killed (by winning team). Now both scum team needs him.
FM Cafarelli
June 18th, 2013, 04:20 AM
ok then kelso is cit i guess
i told ml they'd probably recruit rose since i outed him as cit but nooo
FM Earle
June 18th, 2013, 04:26 AM
I guess today's event is mud slinging between Mafia and Savages with town siding with either of them, Witch doing nothing.
FM Cafarelli
June 18th, 2013, 04:42 AM
today is crucial, town has a 50% win chance if they act right now
3 town 2 mafs 1 savage 1 witch
witch must be lynched and i'm sure it would work, rose would vote him with the townies
3 town 2 mafs 1 savage
savages must kill maf, otherwise maf had 50% which would be maf win
maf kill town most likely but the escort MUST BLOCK the mafia kill which is a 50:50 chance
3 town 1 maf 1 savage
then gg to victory
if they lynch not the witch but savage today: maf+witch sure win
if they lynch maf: 3 town 1 maf 1 savage 1 witch => town loss unless one kill hits scum and the other kill is blocked/hits scum too which is both very unlikely especially with the witch
if the 50:50 chance fails: 2 town 1 maf 1 savage => town wins only if they don't lynch and at least one scum dies while no townie is allowed to die which is very unlikely
FM Galletta
June 18th, 2013, 04:51 AM
today is crucial, town has a 50% win chance if they act right now
3 town 2 mafs 1 savage 1 witch
witch must be lynched and i'm sure it would work, rose would vote him with the townies
3 town 2 mafs 1 savage
savages must kill maf, otherwise maf had 50% which would be maf win
maf kill town most likely but the escort MUST BLOCK the mafia kill which is a 50:50 chance
3 town 1 maf 1 savage
then gg to victory
if they lynch not the witch but savage today: maf+witch sure win
if they lynch maf: 3 town 1 maf 1 savage 1 witch => town loss unless one kill hits scum and the other kill is blocked/hits scum too which is both very unlikely especially with the witch
if the 50:50 chance fails: 2 town 1 maf 1 savage => town wins only if they don't lynch and at least one scum dies while no townie is allowed to die which is very unlikely
*slap* thats for making town think i was blackmailer for days, which caused everyone to ignore my theories until donnelly died.
FM Buchwalter
June 18th, 2013, 05:05 AM
*slap* thats for making town think i was blackmailer for days, which caused everyone to ignore my theories until donnelly died.
Just wanted to tell you that you just made me smile.
FM Monroe
June 18th, 2013, 05:37 AM
So far, the town is being really stupid not taking this opportunity to lynch the witch.
FM Galletta
June 18th, 2013, 06:49 AM
So far, the town is being really stupid not taking this opportunity to lynch the witch.
scum at least succeeded in killing the smart townies, leaving just the braindead lurkers.
FM Phelps
June 18th, 2013, 07:30 AM
Lol. That death note. Seriously stop doing your own drugs Soma dealers. It seems Galloway wants to marry Gerik. :P
FM Bishop
June 18th, 2013, 07:33 AM
Galloway claimed Mafia und nobody noticed.... I mean he claimed plain as day.
He said he got a Blackmail feedback. Dundunduuuuuuun
FM Galletta
June 18th, 2013, 07:37 AM
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20995-Day-12?p=337581&viewfull=1#post337581
i was saying this for the past 3 days and they just now get it.
FM Phelps
June 18th, 2013, 07:40 AM
Lol, People are so stupid. There IS another ESCORT. HARD PROVEN THROUGH FEEDBACK'S. Rofl so bad.
FM Phelps
June 18th, 2013, 07:49 AM
Best mafia move for today. Get the witch to use mason to block the killing cultist at night, lynch a cult at day. aka FM Fapman.
Best witch move for today. Don't get lynched by town and don't get yourself as a possible kill target for tonight because you are a dick.
Best cult move for today. Lynch the godfather or the other mafia get the witch to side with cult.
FM Phelps
June 18th, 2013, 07:49 AM
Best town move for today: suicide and uninstall your browsers.
FM Bishop
June 18th, 2013, 07:51 AM
Is that so? Did Mason actually prevent a night action?
You were the only one able to confirm him as Escort. And you were Mafia. Hmm, I think he blocked Black. And Black never said a word about a fake block. So he should be confirmed as legit blocker unless you and Mason mixed it up that night (dunno if your block prevented an action.
I don't doubt that Chapman is a Cult.
FM Bishop
June 18th, 2013, 07:52 AM
I doubt that Chapman is a Cult. Why can others edit their posts but not me?
FM Bishop
June 18th, 2013, 07:59 AM
The first opportunity for Mafia to win presents itself: Kelso voted Mason.
FM Monroe
June 18th, 2013, 08:10 AM
Mason is confirmed escort because:
night 2:
- Colmyer drugged
- 3 blocks claimed, including one on Buchwalter the drug dealer
night 6:
- Hogeboom got double blocked (Phelps and Witch)
- Dunn got blocked (no bus drives)
- Cafarelli drugged (I think)
FM Phelps
June 18th, 2013, 10:34 AM
Dunn didn't drive on N6....
FM Monroe
June 18th, 2013, 10:59 AM
Well, you already knew there were 2 escorts because you were blocked twice, so the other escort was going to block Dunn if the mayor's plan was followed, meaning you couldn't rely on it swapping a kill or something. But you could still have tried something else with it. Nobody was going to find out you blocked Hogeboom anyway.
FM Monroe
June 18th, 2013, 10:59 AM
Or are you saying the mafia was just a fail that night and forgot to submit actions :p
FM Phelps
June 18th, 2013, 11:57 AM
Nah. There was just no need to let him drive.
FM Earle
June 18th, 2013, 01:10 PM
Best town move for today. Sit back and let scum kill off each other.
FM Galletta
June 18th, 2013, 01:25 PM
WOW, i cant believe galloway posted the soma note even though in his code he said he was doc but claimed lookout to town
FM Cafarelli
June 18th, 2013, 02:15 PM
*slap* thats for making town think i was blackmailer for days, which caused everyone to ignore my theories until donnelly died.
lol i rushed that theory because the roleblocks matched so well and forget to consider that consort blocked you and i took my theory back after i realized. it surely didn't cause any suspicion, rather it cleaned you because consort blocked you. i didn't even suspect you after that, i even figured donnelly was the blackmailer (i thought you could be exe but didn't write in day chat)
at least while i was alive i don't see you have been suspected or not listened too
and i was also not one of those who fosed you so hard because of your language
also it's not my fault if they ignore you just because you have been suspected lol. being suspected is normal, also for wrong reasons. if you don't want it try not to be suspicious but i wouldn't recommend this to townies
clemetine don't you understand my complaint that i got no feedback from my investigation on kelso
and ofc mason is escort lol, it's so clear there is not even a need to waste time looking for evidence
FM Ferengi
June 18th, 2013, 02:16 PM
lol i rushed that theory because the roleblocks matched so well and forget to consider that consort blocked you and i took my theory back after i realized. it surely didn't cause any suspicion, rather it cleaned you because consort blocked you. i didn't even suspect you after that, i even figured donnelly was the blackmailer (i thought you could be exe but didn't write in day chat)
at least while i was alive i don't see you have been suspected or not listened too
and i was also not one of those who fosed you so hard because of your language
also it's not my fault if they ignore you just because you have been suspected lol. being suspected is normal, also for wrong reasons. if you don't want it try not to be suspicious but i wouldn't recommend this to townies
clemetine don't you understand my complaint that i got no feedback from my investigation on kelso
and ofc mason is escort lol, it's so clear there is not even a need to waste time looking for evidence
FM Game Master sent night feedback last night. Bad FM Game Master! :p
Ok I will send it to you now.
FM Cafarelli
June 18th, 2013, 02:20 PM
yep delta
thx
Forum Mafia GM
June 18th, 2013, 02:20 PM
FM Game Master sent night feedback last night. Bad FM Game Master! :p
Ok I will send it to you now.
Switzerland didn't add your action to the sheet. Bad Switzerland! :P
FM Bishop
June 18th, 2013, 04:40 PM
-deadlynch FM Fontaine
Is he actually new?
-deadlynch FM Fontaine
Mason is confirmed escort because:
night 2:
- Colmyer drugged
- 3 blocks claimed, including one on Buchwalter the drug dealer
night 6:
- Hogeboom got double blocked (Phelps and Witch)
- Dunn got blocked (no bus drives)
- Cafarelli drugged (I think)
Duh, the dead chat obviously knows. I was talking about the day chat.
FM Bishop
June 18th, 2013, 04:41 PM
Damned multi-quote!
FM Galletta
June 18th, 2013, 05:08 PM
lol i rushed that theory because the roleblocks matched so well and forget to consider that consort blocked you and i took my theory back after i realized. it surely didn't cause any suspicion, rather it cleaned you because consort blocked you. i didn't even suspect you after that, i even figured donnelly was the blackmailer (i thought you could be exe but didn't write in day chat)
at least while i was alive i don't see you have been suspected or not listened too
and i was also not one of those who fosed you so hard because of your language
also it's not my fault if they ignore you just because you have been suspected lol. being suspected is normal, also for wrong reasons. if you don't want it try not to be suspicious but i wouldn't recommend this to townies
clemetine don't you understand my complaint that i got no feedback from my investigation on kelso
and ofc mason is escort lol, it's so clear there is not even a need to waste time looking for evidence
im a replacement, you were (just?) dead when i took over. so for the next 3 days all i heard was "omg hes blackmailer, invest said so!" i know everyone gets suspected but it appears we have many idiots in this game.
FM Buchwalter
June 18th, 2013, 05:29 PM
So, no one else is gonna make some deathlynch votes?
In that case I will be deathlynching me self. Not that I mind, just sad no one has really tried to guess my COM.
FM Galletta
June 18th, 2013, 06:41 PM
-deadlynch kalou
FM Morgan
June 18th, 2013, 09:00 PM
Poor Ryan lol... Trying to go for the solo witch win caused him to not win at all...
FM Cajetan
June 18th, 2013, 09:59 PM
-deadlynch Kalou
FM Earle
June 18th, 2013, 10:50 PM
Poor Ryan lol... Trying to go for the solo witch win caused him to not win at all...
There can't be any solo Witch win in the first place. I also tried to get solo Corrupt Journalist win, only to remember that I'm not the only one (Becket is another). After that, didn't bother.
FM Ferengi
June 19th, 2013, 12:33 AM
Deadlynch Tally:
FM Buchwalter (1): FM Buchwalter
FM Kalou (2): FM Galletta, FM Ballard
FM Kalou was deadlynched! FM Kalou's COM is Boss.
FM Ferengi
June 19th, 2013, 02:39 AM
This is a message from the last remaining savage:
-Message to the DEAD!
ghost of Ryan, CAN YOU HEAR ME? Im sorry about getting you lynched, it was never a part of my plan but i had no choice when you started pushing townies into lynching me, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO STAY NEUTRAL!
It was also foolish of me to allow galloway to make me reveal myself, i was allmost sure that galloway was town.
And to the rest of you lost souls.
There is still a small chance of me winning. I wont reveal my entire plan but it includes getting on the towns good side. Assuming the mafia doesn't kill me tonight.
FM Cafarelli
June 19th, 2013, 03:08 AM
tell him that deep inside of him he's still a townie^^
FM Monroe
June 19th, 2013, 03:24 AM
Does Rose think Galloway is actually town or something? Or is he not going to vote to lynch Galloway tomorrow in 1v2v1? I'm not sure what else his plan might be.
FM Buchwalter
June 19th, 2013, 04:26 AM
This is a message from the last remaining savage:
Both Galloway and Mendez have been doing an awesome job in this game.
Most say Mendez's role-claim was pretty damn believable. Galloway did however claim another role then he did to Mayor, and I'm sure that will bite him in the behind tomorrow.
FM Phelps
June 19th, 2013, 05:22 AM
I am glad the witch died. Well deserved loss on his position. You don't try to play 1 faction against the other. Glad you finaly got punished for it.
FM Bishop
June 19th, 2013, 05:53 AM
The Witch had it coming. While she can win with both of factions, Mafia and Cult still have to see each other dead. And the balance scum - town is a slippery slope. It came back at her.
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