Wasnt Landstander banned?

[Fubby]

Just got into a game with him. He decided to make his own new save at the starttho and everyon got bored and quit.

[Hypersniper]

Might be a copier of the best maf playa evar

[ika]

Just got into a game with him. He decided to make his own new save at the starttho and everyon got bored and quit.

He was but dr likes to keep him around. Hes still banned from site though

[Cryptonic]

I don't think Landstander was ever banned from the game. The reason he was banned from the site was because he was the center of a lot of drama. The staff is a little more mature and wouldn't ban someone from the game for not breaking any in-game rules.

[Fubby]

Ahh ok. That makes sense

Does he run both CorLeone and CorIeone?

[louiswill]

Ahh ok. That makes sense

Does he run both CorLeone and CorIeone?

I am still in the clan but I dont feel he was actually running it somehow...

[Raptorblaze]

I don't think Landstander was ever banned from the game. The reason he was banned from the site was because he was the center of a lot of drama. The staff is a little more mature and wouldn't ban someone from the game for not breaking any in-game rules.

He was actually banned ingame for rampant mod abuse as well as griefing with the intention of harassing specific players (namely, donors and anyone he suspected was staff) but every time we tried to enforce the ban he whined to DR that we're just doing it to harass him. So we made a deal that as long as he doesn't speak to the staff and harass players any further we'll just let him be (we also removed his mod powers).

[Corleone Landstander]

I've been banned from game and had my points reset multiple times for being a little over zealous in speaking with Raptor, which I did provoke him, I shan't lie, but DR just restores them the next day, and you say I abused mod powers, and have have yet to furnished a single replay or a parcel of evidence. I'll be honest. I just pissed staff off, and few of us didn't see eye to eye, resulting in the aforementioned consequence of losing Admin powers. In my defense, It's been a blue moon since I've seen a mod play Mafia when Moderate is in their job description. Now it's just a status symbol, and I don't think there's a counter-argument to that. Nonetheless, there's no need to fabricate fallacious accusations. And though I will likely be banned by Raptor personally after he sees this post, I just think its rather unfair to talk so much shit about someone without giving them the opportunity to defend themselves. I don't like having a bad Rap, I mean Rep. 1 is enough.

Best Regards,

Landstander


Founder of Corleone and Corione (a Starcraft 2 Mafia-Based Clan, Over 150+ Experienced players with no one on Watchlist)

Landstander.info

[AppleyNO]

I've been banned and had my points reset multiple times for being a little over zealous in speaking with Raptor, but DR just restores them the next day, and you say I abuse mod powers, and have have yet to furnished a single replay or a parcel of evidence. I'll be honest. I just pissed staff off. But there's no need to fabricate fallacious accusations. And though I will likely be banned by Raptor personally after he sees this post, I just think its rather unfair to talk so much shit about someone without giving them the opportunity to defend themselves. I don't like having a bad Rap, I mean Rep. 1 is enough.

Best Regards,

Landstander


Clan Leader of Corleone and Corione

Landstander.info

Lol.

Would you like the replays?

Anyway, the answer is no, he isn't. But he needs to be before DR gets in trouble for giving special privileges to Landstander for cash.

It won't happen, but its a nice thought.

[Mugy]

So uh land, if you ever read this.

I would like to point out oGS disbanded over a year ago.

Edit: Oh and their only good player left ages ago.

[Theroux]

I think it's cute how he keeps coming back.

I will say Kudos to Mafia now though, for finally banning one of their corrupt Mods. Hopefully they got Ambient too.

[Raptorblaze]

I think it's cute how he keeps coming back.

I will say Kudos to Mafia now though, for finally banning one of their corrupt Mods. Hopefully they got Ambient too.

Ambient wasn't corrupt >.>

Also I tried to ban Landstander numerous times before I retired.

[Slaol]

I don't think Landstander was ever banned from the game. The reason he was banned from the site was because he was the center of a lot of drama. The staff is a little more mature and wouldn't ban someone from the game for not breaking any in-game rules.

Wo there. Let's not go as far as to say 'not breaking any'. Land abused his ingames more frequently than anyone.

[Cryptonic]

Wo there. Let's not go as far as to say 'not breaking any'. Land abused his ingames more frequently than anyone.

I guess I kind of did say that, but I meant it more like.. "Staff wouldn't ban ppl who don't break rules" lol. I said that when I was under the assumption that he wasn't banned, so I assumed he hadn't broken any rules :P

[Raptorblaze]

I guess I kind of did say that, but I meant it more like.. "Staff wouldn't ban ppl who don't break rules" lol. I said that when I was under the assumption that he wasn't banned, so I assumed he hadn't broken any rules :P

Let's see what I can remember.... I'll list the reasons he was fired and eventually banned. Is it still unprofessional for ex-staff to discuss ex-staff? Idk. I'll say my opinion straight up was that I liked him on a personal level, but he was not pleasant to work with.
- Mod power abuse, repeatedly
- Abuse of fellow staff members (Repeatedly, and despite multiple correctional attempts and warnings. When I asked why he refused to stop he said just told me it was his job. No idea what he meant by that.)
- After being fired, impersonating a staff member and general violations of site rules
- Continued and ongoing harassment of senior staff, including but not limited to threats of physical violence, and forming a clan then specifically sending any gullible members he could convince out to find and harass those senior staff who had blocked him in order to bypass said blocks. This included a large variety of derogatory statements. Most of this was directed at me since I was the one who fired him in the end.
- Refusal to obey an agreement that we would not permanently ban him if he just stopped the above stated harassment. He agreed, then continued, then said he broke the agreement because we had no honor anyway.
- Falsely claiming that his clan(s) were "Official".

I'm perfectly willing to answer any questions on the matter, but please keep it to a factual basis. I'd prefer not to defame anyone. (Legally speaking, stating the truth is not defamation, hence why the above is not.)

Apologies to the moderator who inevitably yells at me about this (Slaol probably), but I felt the need to finally explain.

I'll probably get in trouble with a moderator over this, but I felt the need to finally divulge the truth.

[Slaol]

Don't do what you're doing Raptor.

[creedkingsx]

was that I liked him on a personal level, but he was not pleasant to work with.

Bullshit. You bashed him at every opportunity. :P

[Theroux]

Ambient wasn't corrupt >.>

Also I tried to ban Landstander numerous times before I retired.

Oh Ambient was indeed corrupt. Not as bad as Landstander, but he was bad too.

It's sad that I had to be a victim of both though. Seriously...

[Theroux]

My apologies to Dark Revenant and Creed for naively including them in the list of corruptness. Not sure about Akira but he's gone so it doesn't matter.

[Raptorblaze]

My apologies to Dark Revenant and Creed for naively including them in the list of corruptness. Not sure about Akira but he's gone so it doesn't matter.

Akira was just temperamental, his heart was always in right the place. As was Ambient's.... you should pm me telling me what you mean when you say he's corrupt. I'm curious. You probably don't agree with his actions but I can virtually guarantee he had specific reason for them. You don't stay warden by randomly abusing people.

I've already said my piece on landykins *cough*

[Theroux]

Similar to Land, Ambient just banned whomever he pleased, even people that did nothing wrong. I saw him in-game ban people for lag chatting even though.

1) Everyone lag chats. It's inevitable.
2. NO one lag chatted. Literally, no one. He's seeing things.

I'm totally fine with banning trolls or gamebreakers, but banning someone because "you don't like them" is plausible for denying their authority to have that power at all.

When we talk Starcraft, temperamental is not someone you want to be, especially when you have ban-powers.

[AppleyNO]

Similar to Land, Ambient just banned whomever he pleased, even people that did nothing wrong. I saw him in-game ban people for lag chatting even though.

1) Everyone lag chats. It's inevitable.
2. NO one lag chatted. Literally, no one. He's seeing things.

I'm totally fine with banning trolls or gamebreakers, but banning someone because "you don't like them" is plausible for denying their authority to have that power at all.

When we talk Starcraft, temperamental is not someone you want to be, especially when you have ban-powers.

Replays plox.

[creedkingsx]

Replays plox.

I doubt he would still have the replays. It's been so long since those times.

[Raptorblaze]

I doubt he would still have the replays. It's been so long since those times.

Didn't he get eaten by a bear? I don't think anyone is allowed to hold grudges against him anymore.

Also: Ambient was warden long before in-game bans were a thing...?

[Theroux]

I doubt he would still have the replays. It's been so long since those times.

^

And no Ambient was still had in-game ban powers at the time. But hey, at least he's gone now.

[Lysergic]

Lawl. Ambient wasn't corrupt. Hell, he's the one who put in place most of the procedures that staff still uses for policing the game.

[Mugy]

In-game ban powers were only introduced about 5 months ago, Ambient was last seen a year ago, and was last staff a year before that. I think you've mistaken something else for in-game banning?

[Ash]

LANDSTANDER DID NOTHING WRONG

[Theroux]

I'm quite positive it was Ambient, since I have notes from 2012 about recent games (at the time) about him in-game banning.

No In-Game banning has been around forever. It's how whole TOS breaking fiasco started.

[AppleyNO]

I'm quite positive it was Ambient, since I have notes from 2012 about recent games (at the time) about him in-game banning.

No In-Game banning has been around forever. It's how whole TOS breaking fiasco started.

The TOS argument was due to ban listings via the report system. :P The command that allows Admins to ban people did not exist until the Necro smurf issue.

[Mateo]

I'm quite positive it was Ambient, since I have notes from 2012 about recent games (at the time) about him in-game banning.

No In-Game banning has been around forever. It's how whole TOS breaking fiasco started.

you're wrong, as everyone has proved. stop with your crybaby bullshit you buttfucking faggot. its as pathetic as landstander to continue with shit that you admit was almost 3 years ago.

[Theroux]

The TOS argument was due to ban listings via the report system. :P The command that allows Admins to ban people did not exist until the Necro smurf issue.

And yet Landstander did the same thing at the same time so it's clearly possible.

you're wrong, as everyone has proved. stop with your crybaby bullshit you buttfucking faggot. its as pathetic as landstander to continue with shit that you admit was almost 3 years ago.

lol Time for you to step down. That kind of language won't be tolerated. I didn't create this thread so you can go take your edge and direct it torwards the OP. 3 years ago? Mmm more like 1 year 1/2. Please stop stretching things.

[AppleyNO]

And yet Landstander did the same thing at the same time so it's clearly possible.

Unless Landstander used -ban to ban people from the game, then no. .-.

Locked since this thread is degenerating, it was necroed in the first place, and the current conversation is somehow about clarifying facts and not about the OP.