S-FM Chicago

[NoctiZ]

Survivor Jester hybrid is the dumbest thing ive ever heard. What's his win con though? Cause it isnt live or more than 0% of players would be winning.

I don't know if it works like that. If it says "Survive until the end" and it's not the end yet, is he really winning already? All depends on the wording and how Crypt imagined it to work.


By the way, I have to ask: Does anyone here have possible evidence for there being a drug dealer in the game? You know, someone that can send out fake feedback? That'd be the only clue that if it turned up might change some of my reads.

[blinkskater]

Slaol you are interpreting my role the wrong way i only say "survivor" because i will wake up every morning with a rageing boner to greet you guys.

[blinkskater]

And Noc for the record i've always thought it was possible for you to be some sort of corrupt mayor, possibly on the marcheesey payrole or something. It's really not a farfetched thought. Do i think you will flip red? No

[Slaol]

I don't know if it works like that. If it says "Survive until the end" and it's not the end yet, is he really winning already? All depends on the wording and how Crypt imagined it to work.


By the way, I have to ask: Does anyone here have possible evidence for there being a drug dealer in the game? You know, someone that can send out fake feedback? That'd be the only clue that if it turned up might change some of my reads.

Didn't the other characters who needed to live die and the counter lost % right away? Id figure it does work that way by what we've seen

[NoctiZ]

And Noc for the record i've always thought it was possible for you to be some sort of corrupt mayor, possibly on the marcheesey payrole or something. It's really not a farfetched thought. Do i think you will flip red? No

That's all I'm saying. Of course the possibilities are endless, but realistically, after all that's happened, will I flip red? Surely not.

[blinkskater]

Any theory that mike is scum is debunked by kennys LW and green flip.

[NoctiZ]

Didn't the other characters who needed to live die and the counter lost % right away? Id figure it does work that way by what we've seen

I don't know if that's what it is because we don't really know the specifics of anyone's win con. I don't think trying to make sense of the % is going to bring us currently forward though.

[Slaol]

Blink can you give me a re-run down of your role?

[blinkskater]

I don't know if that's what it is because we don't really know the specifics of anyone's win con. I don't think trying to make sense of the % is going to bring us currently forward though.

I can assure you guys that my % can't change untill the end.

[Slaol]

I don't know if that's what it is because we don't really know the specifics of anyone's win con. I don't think trying to make sense of the % is going to bring us currently forward though.

I mean we DO have information to interpret and that is literally all FM is so....

Id say a Survivor would probably be considered winning while alive. My ask to Geoff hasnt been very illuminating

[NoctiZ]

Any theory that mike is scum is debunked by kennys LW and green flip.

And blink for the record i've always thought it was possible for Mike to be some sort of corrupt role, possibly on the rizzo payrole or something. It's really not a farfetched thought. Do i think he will flip purple? No

[Slaol]

I can assure you guys that my % can't change untill the end.

That statement doesnt necessarily contradict what im saying. A survivor likely is a W until it loses- so no change

[blinkskater]

Blink can you give me a re-run down of your role?

Yeah a sort of hybrid between a jester and survivor, i will wake up every morning. I'm a neutral benign. At the end of the game i can win, but we need red flips.

[blinkskater]

That statement doesnt necessarily contradict what im saying. A survivor likely is a W until it loses- so no change

The survivor part of my role has nothing to do with my wincon.

[Slaol]

You will wakeup? Are you immune to kills entirely?

[blinkskater]

And blink for the record i've always thought it was possible for Mike to be some sort of corrupt role, possibly on the rizzo payrole or something. It's really not a farfetched thought. Do i think he will flip purple? No

Heh. We are mindmelding then in more ways than anyone else can fathom =P

[blinkskater]

You will wakeup? Are you immune to kills entirely?

110%

[Slaol]

Why do you need scum flips

[blinkskater]

Why do you need scum flips

Because i'm pro town.

[Slaol]

But neutral benign?

[blinkskater]

I'm not going full retard against crypts wishes and flat out saying my wincon if thats what you are trying to get out of me but by this point it should be fucking obvious

[Slaol]

Im just trying to wrap my head around the absurdity of this role.

[blinkskater]

But neutral benign?

Correct.

[Slaol]

Uh according to noctiz its all gravy at this point. But ya thats fine

[blinkskater]

Im just trying to wrap my head around the absurdity of this role.

And yours isn't? ... And Mike going from purple to fucking green isn't? And a god damn townie that needs another town to die isn't? Stop trying to single me out when there's tons of shit thats stranger then what you think you know about my neutral role

[Slaol]

Mine isnt that absurd actually. Im just a weak nothing for RP basically. Yours is actually nuts.

I didnt vote you did i? Im trying to sift through this because Noctiz loves yzb who i hate, and mike is confirmed from kenny so its a bit difficult. I guess im left with Brendan but your claim is a bit wacky as a role, so dont go getting all upsrt that im asking questions lol

[NoctiZ]

I mean with me claiming that I want to see a pure green city prosper and it was painfully obvious what I was trying to say and Crapt didn't kill me for it.. that says enough about the win con rule ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ but I'm not trying to push anyone into breaking what is listed as a rule.

But really, I think it's weird as well, blink. Why would a neutral benign have a win con that's specific to winning with town? And looking at Slaol, why would a town role have a win condition that says they're winning when I do and to top it off, my own win con is so simple that it could've just been Slaol's role's win con from the get go?

At this point figuring out the fishy claims from the more believable ones is going to help make the reads of everyone so I do think it's important to figure out what exactly everyone is trying to claim so no one can get away with being too vague and using that as disguise. And that doesn't only mean win cons but also role abilities.

[Slaol]

Ill add to the role ability thing- i dont do a god damned thing. No night action. No day action.

[blinkskater]

I have no night action/day action and i can't be killed at night.

[Slaol]

Noctiz what i think is funny is that due to my wincon being what it is, it means i didnt even know what i was chasing outside of "Noctiz good". so i basically didnt even know my own wincon in effect

[blinkskater]

I chose to side with town.

[NoctiZ]

Noctiz what i think is funny is that due to my wincon being what it is, it means i didnt even know what i was chasing outside of "Noctiz good". so i basically didnt even know my own wincon in effect

So it told you that I was town-aligned?

[Slaol]

-vote Blinkskater

Thats scummy af sorry. Ill remove it later if we can get a Brendsn train going

[Slaol]

So it told you that I was town-aligned?

It did not

[NoctiZ]

It did not

So what did you mean when you said:

it means i didnt even know what i was chasing outside of "Noctiz good"

[blinkskater]

-vote Blinkskater

Thats scummy af sorry. Ill remove it later if we can get a Brendsn train going

Lol what ever bro... dead or alive i could careless. I wont flip red tho and the fact you want to lynch someone who 100% wont flip red means you are not green.

[Slaol]

So what did you mean when you said:

I meant i am on your team, regardless of what that meant.

[blinkskater]

My lynch here hurts town and helps reds/ and unfortunately myself

[Slaol]

Lol what ever bro... dead or alive i could careless. I wont flip red tho and the fact you want to lynch someone who 100% wont flip red means you are not green.

Id rather lynch the most absurd claim ive ever seen from a confessed neutral than waste a day or lynch a green.

Id also rather lynch yzb but noctiz is cheating on me with him so that isnt happening

[Slaol]

My lynch here hurts town and helps reds/ and unfortunately myself

Why would it be unfortunate?

[NoctiZ]

I meant i am on your team, regardless of what that meant.

Ah okay, gotcha.


I'm gonna say that I'm for a blink lynch for sure, but not sure if that should be today. I'll probably default to Brendan because he was too hands-off most game and despite accusing Mag he did not vote.

-unvote

[blinkskater]

Whats absurd about being night immune? A player changed from purple to green. A green player had to lynch another green player. ? Any logical player can sense that those to are blatently nore absurd then mine.

[Slaol]

For the record Blink i have read you as townie for a while but the claim is just too absurd. I mean no offense and if thats your real situation then fuck me.

If noctiz is about that Brendan lynch blink would you join in? Hes worse by play than you are by claim imo

[blinkskater]

Why would it be unfortunate?

Because i'm ultimatley sacrificing my own win con to help town win.

[blinkskater]

For the record Blink i have read you as townie for a while but the claim is just too absurd. I mean no offense and if thats your real situation then fuck me.

If noctiz is about that Brendan lynch blink would you join in? Hes worse by play than you are by claim imo

Nah i want YZBs head on a platter, he will flip red.

[blinkskater]

For the record Blink i have read you as townie for a while but the claim is just too absurd. I mean no offense and if thats your real situation then fuck me.

If noctiz is about that Brendan lynch blink would you join in? Hes worse by play than you are by claim imo

You havn't made a case on why my claim is so far fetched nor have you given any counterpoints to my points.

[Slaol]

Whats absurd about being night immune? A player changed from purple to green. A green player had to lynch another green player. ? Any logical player can sense that those to are blatently nore absurd then mine.

Simple- this is a game of 13 people and the colors be damned. Certain players care about colors to achieve their town half of their win for example but cant win with individual people they dont get along with. It isnt that hard to grasp that we have factions within the town. Im pretty sure Mike is an anti-noctiz town by how hard he is going at his corruption thing. Multiple subplots and a likely weak scum team to make up for how pathetic this Chicago town is

[NoctiZ]

I am kind of sure that I know what blink is on about and it does kind of make sense in that context I think? I feel like I understood what he's claiming and I see why he thinks it's better for us to hold off on lynching him. Interesting theory.

And I will say again by the way that yzb is not on the table today. Making that clear here.

[Slaol]

Because i'm ultimatley sacrificing my own win con to help town win.

@Cryptonic
Whats your game throw policy?

[blinkskater]

Scum are pissed they can't kill me at night and will only vote with the confirmed town