"Use Artifact"
"Use Artifact"
I would just give the artifact to someone else, but i dont know how to. And i think that the artifact does something bad like kill me or something, so i wanna get rid of it asap
@NoctiZ explaining away goatse's block and morgan burning down the shop is susp. similar to okatud defending goatse.
-can confirm the grenade. whatever the fuck that does. m
-can confirm the catapault (again)
my tracking feedback says SB visited goatse, and noctiz visited sb.
"I am effectively 100% ruled out of every being Merlin." - PTB
-this is stupid and i hate it. we don't know you were afk during night 1, just that you were replaced in by d2
role card coming in next post
FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
FM XXI: USA (Escort)
FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)
I return and I'm like... Whaaaaat?!
So SJ is the Team Scum leader, which require the neutral and the other Team Scum to be eliminated.
There's just one problem with the math.
3 Vanilla is dead. There's a flipped "Mayor".
I assume this is the setup.
- King Arthur
- Vassal 1 - Director
- Vassal 2
- Vassal 3
- Vassal 4
- Vassal 5
- Vassal 6
- Vassal 7
- Vanilla
- Vanilla
- Vanilla
- Red Team Scum
- Red Team Scum
- Purple Scum Team
- Purple Scum Team
- Merlin the Wizard
This is the full text of the thing. So let me ask you, what the fuck is this?"Your loyal seven vassals, knights of the round, has decided to become researchers of the relic room, known as "Town Power Roles"; they each possess or use a different anomalous object / artifact.
One of them is known as the Director to help you find the holy grail.
The useless peasants of your kingdom know themselves to be "Vanilla"."
Okay, looks fair enough, except.Win Conditions:
Majority Faction: You win if the Neutral and Team Scum are eliminated, along with the elimination of at least one Team Scum member.
Neutral: You win if the Majority Faction and the Team Scum is eliminated. You may win with the Team Scum if the Mayor is eliminated.
Team Scum: You win if the Team Scum and at least 3 Town Power Roles are eliminated. If the Neutral is eliminated, you must also eliminate Majority Faction.
Team Scum: You win if the Neutral and Team Scum is eliminated. You may win with Majority Faction if the Mayor is eliminated.
I'm going to poke this just a bit later. The math doesn't support this.
And more importantly, remember what I wrote earlier?
This looks extremely familiar.I'm immune to everything until my seven loyal vassals (who forgot who I was) is either dead or no longer part of my faction.
SuperJack, you're Morgan le Fay.
Also, remember my paraphrase?
This suggests that you have a team mate, who's a [CORRUPTED] (thus we don't know), in addition you have the ability to "kill" someone to recruit them into your faction.Morgan le Fay : is the evil equivalent of me.
[CORRUPTED]
[CORRUPTED]
When attacked, [CORRUPTED]
They have a [CORRUPTED], if a director of some kind dies by their hand then they will be recruited into this faction.
During day, guess a number between 1 to 10000, the one closest to the random number will get to act the following night.
So let me ask you SuperJack, did you convert our Director?
WE KNOW I DID NO FUCKING ACTION LAST NIGHT AND THAT MERLIN VISITED ARTHUR.
THERFORE I CANNOT BE MERLIN
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Also, moderation has warned me I have to be nicer. I will be nicer when some of you get less stupider. Thanks.
@SuperJack
Did you convert our beloved Director? Are you Morgan le Fay?
In the Arthur tales, Morgan le Fay is known as the antagonist.
In some versions they were known as a misunderstood antagonist who were good after all and both Arthur and Morgan got in love.
As for the others out there, SB got an item and could've used it to misaligned the investigation data.
Sorry, when did I "explain away" the block on Goatse? Because right now I'm accusing Stealthbomber of being scum as hell since Goatse was seemingly not blocked. The alternative is that Goatse actually was blocked but Otaku and Goatse are on one scum team aswell as you so you can all "confirm" your actions happening but that scenario is a tad harder to fake in the long run.
The "burning down the shop" is what the host told us today happened and there is no kill that happened by "burning" like there was at the start of D2. All I did was make a conclusion that anyone here can make so what are you actually accusing me of that makes you suspicious of me? You're graping at straws.
Anyway I can confirm that this is the feedback you're supposed to get when tracking. I tracked SB and saw Voss visit SB and SB visited Goatse.
So if you're not Morgan, how does the math fit?
Let's assume you're right.
- King Arthur
- Mayor - Could be vassal, could not be. Likely slot for Director since no "TPR" flavor.
- Vanilla
- Vanilla
- Vanilla
- Vassal - TPR
- Vassal
- Vassal
- Vassal
- Vassal
- Vassal
- RED
- RED
- RED
- Morgan le Fay
- Merlin the Wizard
Then Morgan le Fay is in a single faction.
Or does he? Maybe there's a Traitor out there?
It would be funny if there was a traitor among the red faction and one of them were really of the purple team.
You know what. Now that I think of it, maybe this setup IS fucked up enough to include a traitor in the scum team.
@SuperJack
Do you have any possible suspect of a traitor in your team faction? You don't have to give their name.
Honestly idk why you're responding to voss. This idiot still thinks its even remotely possible for me to be merlin when I literally subbed in starting Day 2. Took no night action (as confirmed by the red team leader who has not been cc'd) night 2, and we know Merlin did stuff BOTH nights.
Rachyl is becoming more useful to voss, sadly.
Well, I'm fucking conflicted.
The "Mayor" is conveniently dead. It's not a TPR. Could be the Director.
This unlocks the ability to win with the Town as Red Team.
We have to cooperate together to eliminate the Purple Team (Morgan le Fay?) and Neutral (Merlin?).
I was painting Merlin as the Neutral and Morgan as the Purple...
But now you mention it, maybe they both are of the same team.
THEN WHAT THE FUCK IS THE NEUTRAL
King Arthur
Mayor - Could be vassal, could not be. Likely slot for Director since no "TPR" flavor.
Vanilla
Vassal - TPR
Vassal
Vassal
Vassal
Vassal
Vassal
Purple
Purple
RED
RED
RED
Morgan le Fay
Merlin the Wizard
or
King Arthur
Mayor - Could be vassal, could not be. Likely slot for Director since no "TPR" flavor.
Vanilla
Vanilla
Vanilla
Vassal - TPR
Vassal
Vassal
Vassal
Purple
Purple
RED
RED
RED
Morgan le Fay
Merlin the Wizard
OR
King Arthur
Mayor - Could be vassal, could not be. Likely slot for Director since no "TPR" flavor.
Vanilla
Vanilla
Vanilla
Vassal - TPR
Vassal
Vassal
Vassal
Vassal
RED
RED
RED
Morgan le Fay
Purple
Merlin the Wizard
OR
King Arthur
Mayor - Could be vassal, could not be. Likely slot for Director since no "TPR" flavor.
Vanilla
Vanilla
Vassal - TPR
Vassal
Vassal
Vassal
Vassal
RED
RED
RED
Morgan le Fay
Purple
Purple
Merlin the Wizard
there's a few more combos I believe, but you get the point. There could really be 1 purple (didnt put it in models) 2 purple or 3 purple with morgan and really merlin being one of the purple. In my opinion.
Don't marry yourself to your current math.
Is the Mayor real?
Can players flip as roles other than the ones they started with?
Is the Win Conditions correct?
To me, the way this is phrased
Sounds like Morgan is purple scum and he has an ally that'd receive a new purple scum rolecard if Morgan managed to kill a director. It sure looks like this has happened, right? My assumption here would be that any town role, be it a vassal TPR or a vanilla, could be that Traitor and this Traitor did not know of their second "purple scum" rolecard. Atleast this is how I'm imagining the mechanic to work based on this phrasing, I'm grasping at straws here. Although I am like 95% sure that Morgan seems to be purple scum. Otherwise they wouldn't have this conversion mechanic, right?Originally Posted by RLVG's reveal post
Ok. I read through what happened and it seems like this game is much more in our favor than I thought-- I had assumed that vanillas counted as vassals as well and that we were close to losing
>I don't know where you guys are getting off calling me and Goatse a scum team: I'm not even sure it was Goatse that offered me a drink; I'm only revealing I was offered a drink which I instead chose to give to noctiz. I am in no way saying Goatse is 100% confirmed town, just a likely town.
>If the red team would honestly just say "I am red team, and my partner(s) are..." the game is solved: as explained before the purple team would be forced to claim town roles and we can sort from there-- the red team and RLVG would form a town bloc and lynch
The OoO would be simple:
1- lynch people who don't claim or don't support the idea- town and red scum team should be on board because it would effectively end the game
2- lynch suspect town claims (I don't care if you lynch me, I just need to ensure this plan goes through because it SHOULD win us the game)
Voss and Noctiz have received my catapult & drink offering- if nobody has agreed to the plan I can prove my innocence by allowing you guys to lynch me; and have voss and Noctiz ride in the catapult/drink the Diet Coke respectively as they aren't cooperating with the plan
@SuperJack , is Stealthbomber of your faction?
I know you're not supposed to reveal your team mates, but I'm going to vote this guy with intend to lynch because I believe he's Merlin, who has used his item to trick investigators of the real clues.
@Otakudweeb69
I got the Drink.
I was given a diet coke with cubed dry ice with the option to drink it, or the option of giving it to another player.
I gave it to you.
This makes me WTF on Goat though.
The million dollar question is how this is of any artifact and anomaly though, so I'm inclined to believe he's scum with a weird flavor.
@RLVG you know if you put this into effect we can really just end thw game right now--what I said assumed vanillas and tprs counted as vassals but it doesn't change the fact that if we play to it we can rule down the lynch pool to just the no claims2 or more of which of which may be red Team and as such acquited)
Voss
Widomakr
Noctiz
And the town claims:
Myself
Stealth
Goatse
Rachyl
PTB
@Otakudweeb69
Why do my team mates need to claim?
Why not just have everyone claim. My team mates will claim town and I know who they are. The town block is already functioning.
Why are you so keen on knowing my teams identity?
Remember answer correctly because my team can kill at night.
Nope.
"Your loyal seven vassals, knights of the round, has decided to become researchers of the relic room, known as "Town Power Roles"; they each possess or use a different anomalous object / artifact.
One of them is known as the Director to help you find the holy grail.
The useless peasants of your kingdom know themselves to be "Vanilla"."
Basically of those people, 2 should be scum!purple, one should be scum!morgan, one should be neutral!merlin, and the scum!red team just needs to say who all their team members are-- the most pivotal point of this is that ALL the red team needs to say their entire red scum team or it just opens the purple team to cc
Sorry, you offered the drink to me? I have received no such thing. Maybe this happens next night? Also you did not offer me a catapult. Wasn't that Stealthbomber the night before and this night it was Voss? Get your own actions straight.
Also we'd need to sort through the claims first and figure out how many slots are possible.
We have to clear up how SB used his RB on Goatse who was apparently still able to hand out a drink to you.
I meant offered a drink and catapult ride respectively; I suppose handing you the drink can only happen during the night
Yes we would-- but that doesn't change the fact that in this moment should everyone Town faction and scum red aligned claim their roles we would end the game as our win; and you are refusing to do so
RLVG, you're card might not be 100% correct. AND HAS ANYONE STOPPED TO THINK THAT THE WIN CONDITIONS MIGHT NOT BE LEGIT EITHER.
the ONLY thing we know for certain is Rule #5. I'm not saying lets lynch SJ for outing. I'm saying we should go after this grail, and maybe RLVG can get some uber abilities that'll help figure out this game.
so. I'm asking director to out, and if not, I have an idea of who it might be and how we would have determined that if rachyl hadn't said anything. I'm thinking she messed up in saying she had the grail because she's scum and her outing kinda breaks that portion of the game.
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Also at @Otakudweeb69 the seemingly change of you and noctiz to push goatse as town today, is what makes it seems suspicious.
FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
FM XXI: USA (Escort)
FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)
I was given the drink at the end of the day, which I gave to Otaku which I assume got the drink at end of the night.
There was no option of denying it, so the item should've been given. Based on day / night action, NoctiZ should not have received the drink yet.
I forgot about stole who probably also needs to be lynched;
Yours and SJs vanilla claims are being taken with a grain of salt at this moment
Update- there was confusion because I said "give it to Noctiz" and host didn't know if it was in reference to the drink
AT THE BEGINNING, AT THE SAME TIME AS YOU
also role card:
Town Power Role
"You have a portal creation ability that can be used during the day. Giving you and another person a room to talk in for the night.
[DATA CORRUPTED]
This ability maybe used every other day."
talked to RLVG yesterday. didn't want to blind architect the first night.
FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
FM XXI: USA (Escort)
FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)
I'm also going to poke out on this.
There's 3x dead Vanilla, there's one alive (which you claim), there's me King Arthur and my Seven Loyal Vassals (11 players in Majority).
If SJ is correct with a team of 3, it's 14 players. Morgan le Fay and Merlin together would be 16, which excludes the Neutral.
What even.
If there's a "Team Scum Faction" with a single member, that's fucking trolly lol.
Can confirm, Voss used their ability to contact me. We shared thoughts.
See, there we go ^^ we have roles that can be basically confirmed and we can narrow down the pool to people who are not Team scum, red and sort through the lynch pool should everyone just claim
With the fact that he did not n1 architect at the very least should he really not be aligned with wido it would make sense he wouldn't want to claim because nobody would be able to confirm his architect ability
King Arthur = RLVG
v1. Mayor = GYRlander
Vanilla = Marshmellow
Vanilla = Reemus
Vanilla = Hybrid
v2. Vassal = Spruance
v3. Vassal = Me
v4. Vassal
v5. Vassal
v6. Vassal
v7. Vassal
RED = SJ
RED
RED
Merlin the Wizard
Morgan Le Fay
Here's what's confirmed TO ME. I know I am not confirmed to you guys.
However, here is the issue. There is a purple team out there.
We have to assume at least one person is on that team, there could be 2. At this point, I highly doubt it would be 3. Unless they're a cult. We know for a FACT we had 3 vanillas, and 1 mayor. and 1 tpr already flipped.
We know we have AT LEAST one neutral based on win conditions.
SO we're either short 1 or 2 town. Or SJ isn't being completely honest and he is on a 2 person team and we're short 1 town
or SJ is Morgan and on a 2 person team.
Simply nothing else can be true
UNLESS RLVG does not have SEVEN TPR vassals.