M-FM XIII Amnesia Town Gamethread

[Escaho]

I have a strange sense that the pills are lined up to match their effects.

The effects were randomized to each pill.

[ReauxTzunami]

The effects were randomized to each pill.

Just had to make sure. I saw Death was lined up with the black pill and it just seemed very fishy.

[Bahkieh]

-lottery

I got no feedback last night. Gotta get some sleep soon.

[Bluejay]

Alright, I can post now!

I'll have a full report once I get some sleep, but I want to say that last night I rolled Sleuth and Actress. Using the Actress role would be silly, so I used Sleuth on CmG. Guess what, he had no last will at all.

Did anyone check Bahkieh and Chill Kid?

[Bluejay]

Oh one other thing: how has Frostbyte not been modkilled yet? Pressure him now, gogogo!

-vote Frostbyte

[Auckmid]

-lottery

[Chill Kidd]

-lottery

[Dust]

Hey, so you guys are fairly stupid when it came down to Auckmid. 1. Just because Auckmid was mentioned in the last will of a mafia does not mean that Auckmid is scum. You all forget that the mafia in this game don't start out in a night chat. Just saying....

[Dust]

By the way, the lotto is likely to do some nasty stuff to ya. I'm not gonna do it. Don't do drugs, kids.

[Kromos]

I interviewed Bluejay last night. For the code take the first letters of each word in the ape escape wiki article: "The series often incorporates ape-related humour, unique gameplay, and a wide variety of pop culture references; it is also notable for being the first game to make the DualShock controller mandatory."

@ Chill Kidd and Fatalis

Why wasn't Bahkieh shot?

@ Bluejay

Chill Kidd didn't say he bussed you. He said he bussed Cryptonic and LeaD which they confirmed. I was framed which was swapped onto Chill Kidd and Bahkieh is the blackmailer.

@ Dust

Are you a citizen? What were your night 1 and night 2 abilities?

I don't recommend using the lottery. Town are in a great position while scum are doing really badly. Only scum should risk using those drugs.

[Dust]

Kromos, I am not a citizen. I am town power but my/rocshi's roles/results shall remain hidden until the time is ripe. The time isn't ripe right now so I'm keeping them hidden.

[Dust]

And you guys have been lackluster in terms of activity. Seriously! Step up your game.

[Kromos]

My last will from last night /w notes:

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Night 1 - Mason Leader / Doctor - Recruited Cryptonic (Failed)

Night 2 - Journalist / Lawyer - Interviewed Bluejay

I haven't answered my article code in my last will in case it is read by a sleuth or I am cleaned.

Notes

Spoiler : Notes :

Green - Very likely town
Dark Green - Decent chance they're town
Yellow - Undecided
Orange - Scummy
Red - Very Scummy (mafia, sk, student or benign neut)

Goremancer - Ubernox saw him visiting LeaD who was apparently recruited twice (once by me). If mason leader (get him to claim) Goremancer is probably town or the student since he didn't use his seek mafia ability (Ubernox would have seen him visiting 2 people if he did) unless pebrock forgot which is also possible. Not claiming and not confirming Ubernox was unhelpful. pebrock was kind of scummy on day 1. Chance of scum but need him to talk more.

Fatalis - Using doctor instead of detective was dumb as the detective is very useful in this setup due to the mafia seek ability. Claims to have Vigilante / Mafioso which is a bit odd when Chill Kidd is also forced to shoot but he is convincing that he has those abilities. Good that he threatened lurkers with his shot. Even with the weird night 1 choice I'm leaning towards town.

Bahkieh - Blackmailer. If he's not the blackmailer then both Chill (swapped with me) and Bahkieh were framed and Bluejay lied. Voted Auckmid which shows scum might be ok with voting a possible gf or sk from Jr's LW (see Capitalier). If town derpiness means he didn't get shot you'll have to lynch him (at the end of the day) or shoot him the next night.

ReauxTzunami - Still doesn't seem to understand how the role he supposedly used works. Thinks he should be checking people who he thinks will die with the sleuth. His day 1 post about risking killing off a teammate, mafia being separated and "one wrong move and the first few days could fall apart" seemed like it should be in mafia chat not day chat as it applied much more to them than town. Sleuths Cryptonic for bad reasons and says no lw (cits more likely than most not to leave one) + could have got lucky when LeaD (his actual target) said he didn't leave one. Not many people leave lws n1 so sleuth is an easy claim. 2 sleuths on n1 unlikely when last wills are rare.

Ubernox - Probably used detective ability (not confirmed but his claim seemed genuine). Could have done it to get town cred or to find fellow mafia though. Defends Auckmid. Helps town a lot. Knows how riddle worked but keeps double vote secret? Upfront about not thinking they should claim though.

Kromos - Town Power

Bluejay - Kind of scummy in day 1 + blackmailed doesn't mean much with no night chats. If he doesn't give his abilities from night 1 and 2 + give his thoughts on day 2 in my interview he is likely to be scum. If Bahkieh flips town he lied about being blackmailed and should be shot at night. Shooting a ghost isn't a big deal.

Capitalier - Voted with me when I suggested using option C to confirm whether he visited me. I was framed last night (swapped onto Chill) so he could be that framer. Instantly "believed" Jr's last will and used it to train Auckmid even though mafia last wills are almost always lies. His claim to have watched pebrock could have come from the accusations pebrocks was receiving on day 2 not from his few day 1 posts. I wasn't as active on day 1 as I was on day 2 so his reasoning for guarding me could also have come from day 2 instead of day 1. 2 targets would explain frame (me) + mafia seek (pebrock) if he were followed. Active lurking.

Cryptonic - Uncced cit.

Brendan - Uncced town KPN.

ajkei - Seems to be confirmed that he used the sleuth (or dirty sleuth) ability. Likely owner of a double vote after saying the answer in day chat but decides to keep this a secret on day 2? Defends Auckmid. Leaning towards town but not strongly.

Auckmid - Could easily be GF or SK as mafia's night 1 attack is still unaccounted for or even scum who wasn't attacked. Armoursmith claim can be "confirmed" by his student claiming or he hopes to find a mafia member to claim vested which would explain why he didn't want to tell us who he gave the armour to yesterday. He should know the risks of giving armour to scum after FM 12 where he and many other scum got armour, yet he still decided to risk it. If he gave it to anyone other than Cryptonic I find it highly unlikely he gave armour at all. In defence says he's not evil neut (leaves out gf) then switches to saying maf wouldn't pressure a teammate (their gf). Possible slip. Uses meta and caps in defence = common scum defence + says he won't claim even though him claiming armoursmith shouldn't have been a problem at all. Makes it sound as if he won't claim his role which as a town power I don't think about. Says he will "prove that I am not the neutral killer" from feedback but he can't because the student can make that feedback and they might have made a code telling each other roles + he doesn't say he can prove that he's not mafia. Force him to claim who he gave armour to tomorrow.

Chill Kidd - Uncced cit, confirmed BD/kidnapper. I was swapped with him which means he was probably framed instead of me to appear to have visited Bluejay.

Nick - "BRAINSS" in cyan, "-skip day", and "Benign Neutrals are fun fun fun. Not Ghost though." from day 1 hints at benign neut. He mentions benign neuts more than anyone on day 2. Unconvincing doc claim + no second ability. If he was telling the truth about visiting me he could be the framer + he mentions this "I think even getting getting a framed person is fine. Cause now we know whom visited whom." Generally helpful day chat.

FrostByte - Lurker. Good chance he's scum but I don't have much posts to read.

LeaD - Kind of lurky but says rl reasons. Another doc claim but at least his second role explains it. Didn't claim double recruited until asked which I found a bit weird. More likely town than not but need to see some more posts.

Rocshi - Uncced cit (troll claim?). Near useless in day chat and refuses to claim his ability. Could be a jester/ghost and the real cit hasn't claimed. The real cit must cc him tomorrow if there is one.

CmG - Trying unusually hard to look pro-town, especially on day 1? Doesn't claim because "it will make sense sooner or later". It probably won't be justified. Helpful day chat. Leaning towards town.

Glip - I'm guessing scum/neutral of some sort. He didn't claim his abilities as soon as he could before he was burned and cleaned which any town should have done.

Jr4life24 - Doesn't make much sense for a mafia to give the town their gf or sk in their lw but the mafia KPN is unaccounted for otherwise so idk. The problem the mafia have with no night chat is that all of them might choose not to kill thinking that another member will which could also explain the no kill.

Day 3

Get everyone to claim abilities from nights 1 and 2. Top scum suspects: Auckmid and Capitalier, maybe Bluejay depending on the interview and his claims. Use full length of the day even with confirmed scum.

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Auckmid wasn't attacked by mafia but he's still very scummy to me.

@ Auckmid

Who did you give armour to and why? Night 2 abilities?

[FrostByte]

I'm here. I had a legit reason for not posting. IRL stuff.

@ Kromos, why do you think Crypt is a cit if your recruiting him failed?

[Chill Kidd]

I'm here. I had a legit reason for not posting. IRL stuff.

@ Kromos, why do you think Crypt is a cit if your recruiting him failed?

Because i swapped him.

[Dust]

Kromos, I notice in your Auckmid notes that the mafia kill is unaccounted for. It is... Brendan's vigilante shot was the mafia kill. Just from a town role, but a mafia player. I wish people would learn to think.

[Chill Kidd]

BTW I was given a Armour last night.

[Kromos]

I'm here. I had a legit reason for not posting. IRL stuff.

@ Kromos, why do you think Crypt is a cit if your recruiting him failed?

He was swapped with LeaD who isn't a cit. No one has claimed cit but him and Chill.

What were your abilities night 1 and 2? Everyone must give their abilities (you don't have to give investigation results) and the sooner we get that information the sooner we can work out who to lynch.

@ Dust

That was my last will from night 2 so I didn't know Brendan was mafia then. I said Auckmid wasn't shot below it but I still think he could be scum.

[Dust]

Kromos, it was obvious that Brendan was mafia. I can think of no town who would shoot on night 1. He looked exactly like a mafioso taking advantage of the situation. If he hadn't died last night I would have led a lynch against him.

And yes, Auckmid could be scum. But the reasons that people had been citing were very stupid.

[Kromos]

Kromos, it was obvious that Brendan was mafia. I can think of no town who would shoot on night 1. He looked exactly like a mafioso taking advantage of the situation. If he hadn't died last night I would have led a lynch against him.

And yes, Auckmid could be scum. But the reasons that people had been citing were very stupid.

In M-FM X Brendan was the vigilante. He shot the most pro-town player night 1 and killed 5 town by the end of the game. What he did in this game fitted with that, especially when he claimed coroner was his second ability.

I'll fill in night 2 of the table when I get back from school. Hopefully more people will have claimed by then.

[ReauxTzunami]

ReauxTzunami - Still doesn't seem to understand how the role he supposedly used works. Thinks he should be checking people who he thinks will die with the sleuth. His day 1 post about risking killing off a teammate, mafia being separated and "one wrong move and the first few days could fall apart" seemed like it should be in mafia chat not day chat as it applied much more to them than town. Sleuths Cryptonic for bad reasons and says no lw (cits more likely than most not to leave one) + could have got lucky when LeaD (his actual target) said he didn't leave one. Not many people leave lws n1 so sleuth is an easy claim. 2 sleuths on n1 unlikely when last wills are rare.

I know how both of my N1 roles worked. I don't have a reason to go out of my way and kill someone with the Fabricator, and the chances of anyone using Sleuth to get any useful information on the first night are slim-to-none. My actions last night were the same as well, considering we already had a complete Bus Driver mindfuck, I wasn't going to pick that role.

[Nick]

IP blocker is irritating. Sometimes can post, sometimes blocked. Can only post once per day for now until I get it sorted. School and hostel IP blocked. Too lazy to hunt for public internet.

Don't do drugs. Drugs are bad.

Though I recommend us to keep utilizing confirmed information from the host. So either Bluejay, Bahkieh or ChillKid. Unlikely ChillKid unless Kromos and him are in it together. Make sure Bluejay is not lying before getting Bahkieh. Bluejay has yet to claim anything. Afterward, go for the framer of ChillKid and less likely Bahkieh.

I'll refuse to confirm nor deny my alignment.

On Auckmid, beware of Fabricator. I mean either N1 or N2 killer might be a Fabricator. I think can leave Auckmid for now. No hard evidence on him. Why is Kromos insisting Brendan is town? Graveyard shows mafia. Obvious mafia. Mafia kill mafia N1 and maybe mafia kill mafia N2 again.

I thought citizens must use ability? ChillKid not shooting? Fatalis got killing role also. Not shooting possible scum?

Keep an eye on citizens in case of evil mason leaders.

[LeaD]

I rolled Vigilante / Ghost last night. I didn't find it likely to get myself shot, while i also had no idea on who to shoot, so i just went with the "help my teammates after death approach".
Who drove me last night?

[LeaD]

get myself shot by a town member*

[LeaD]

Also, ADVENTURE TIME
-lottery yey i'm scum

[Fatalis]

I interviewed Bluejay last night. For the code take the first letters of each word in the ape escape wiki article: "The series often incorporates ape-related humour, unique gameplay, and a wide variety of pop culture references; it is also notable for being the first game to make the DualShock controller mandatory."

@ Chill Kidd and Fatalis

Why wasn't Bahkieh shot?


@ Bluejay

Chill Kidd didn't say he bussed you. He said he bussed Cryptonic and LeaD which they confirmed. I was framed which was swapped onto Chill Kidd and Bahkieh is the blackmailer.

@ Dust

Are you a citizen? What were your night 1 and night 2 abilities?

I don't recommend using the lottery. Town are in a great position while scum are doing really badly. Only scum should risk using those drugs.

I'm also like wtf why didn't he die
I shot him last night
This is my PM I sent ( Manually quoted )

SCRATCH MY LAST MESSAGE
-use vigilante to kill Bahkieh

Last will: If you are reading this message then I'm dead... obviously..
I tried to shot Bahkieh last night, Chill Kid can be scum.. but probably framed as Crypt and Lead was confirmed to be bus driven

The scratch my last message thing was because I typed -shoot Chill Kid -,-

[CmG]

-lottery

-vote Chill kid

Ability Claims


Chill Kidd - Bus Driver - Swapped Cryptonic + LeaD
Ubernox - Detective - CmG visited LeaD
Nick - Doctor - Healed Kromos

"It should be obvious," the Sphinx roared. "Chill Kidd and Bahkieh visited him, of course!"

Confirmed Mafia Chill Kid, He drove 2 people and visited a 3. Gooby please. GUILTY! The only ones who can do that are Mafia since searching for a night chat is a visit as well.

[CmG]

Bahkieh is scummy as well but Chill Kidd is confirmed Mafia scum. Also see? Brendan flipped mafia? What did i tell you guys? I wouldn't be surprised if Kromos flips Godfather later on.

[CmG]

I rolled Vigilante / Ghost last night. I didn't find it likely to get myself shot, while i also had no idea on who to shoot, so i just went with the "help my teammates after death approach".
Who drove me last night?

This is bullshit, Town can't roll Neutral, also Neutrals role 2 neutral role cards at night so they don't autojoin town. Herpderp.

[Fatalis]

-lottery

-vote Chill kid

Ability Claims


Chill Kidd - Bus Driver - Swapped Cryptonic + LeaD
Ubernox - Detective - CmG visited LeaD
Nick - Doctor - Healed Kromos





Confirmed Mafia Chill Kid, He drove 2 people and visited a 3. Gooby please. GUILTY! The only ones who can do that are Mafia since searching for a night chat is a visit as well.

50% Chance for framed targets to appear
Now now, 1 person can confirm his actions but the other can't which one is the framed one..

[Fatalis]

Btw tonight I rolled Framer ( WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE FRAMER ) and Gunsmith
I'm givin my gun to the most townish person

[CmG]

Why would somebody frame Chill Kid on Night 2? He claimed citizen He would have popped up as scum to a sheriff or an invest. Framing cits is retarded and Brendan shot his teammate. So we can scratch that out. Also his cit swapping was srsly contra town.

If he is not mafia i eat my hat.

[CmG]

Btw tonight I rolled Framer ( WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE FRAMER ) and Gunsmith
I'm givin my gun to the most townish person

Don't give your gun to an unrecruited citizen please.

[CmG]

If a ghost dies to your pills does he autowin?

[Fatalis]

Why would somebody frame Chill Kid on Night 2? He claimed citizen He would have popped up as scum to a sheriff or an invest. Framing cits is retarded and Brendan shot his teammate. So we can scratch that out. Also his cit swapping was srsly contra town.

If he is not mafia i eat my hat.

I understand that, but how do you explain the bus driving claims? unless crypt and lead is both lying.. which is unlikely

[CmG]

Dude read the faq. A mafia has 2 Actions at night. 1 He uses a rolecard. 2. He searches for another mafia to form a night chat. Both actions are trackable. He could drive 2 people and visit Bluejay. This game has many flaws and this is one of it.

[Fatalis]

Dude read the faq. A mafia has 2 Actions at night. 1 He uses a rolecard. 2. He searches for another mafia to form a night chat. Both actions are trackable. He could drive 2 people and visit Bluejay. This game has many flaws and this is one of it.

I didn't know it was trackable O.o
-vote Chill Kid

Let him claim his action

[CmG]

Out of the Godfather rolecard.


-In addition to your two choices for the day, you have the option to -seek [player]. If you seek out a fellow mafia member, you will join their night chat! If you find a non-mafia member, that player will not receive a PM regarding your search (and will not know about it). However, Detectives and Lookouts can still see you when you perform this action. (You may perform this action alongside your regular action.)

This would autoconfirm Bluejay as non mafia as well if Chill kid is a member of le mafia.

[CmG]

Scratch the autoconfirm of Bluejay...

Does option C reveal succesful -seek commands as well? Or only normal night actions performed on people?

[Dust]

If CMG is telling the truth, not that I see any reason to doubt him, then Chill is mafia.

And CMG is also correct that town cannot roll a neutral role. Afaik the only role to do that is student of the sk. But it's too obvious right now. beware jester shenanigans....

[Nick]

Posting from McDonalds. Interesting observation from CmG. I totally forgot about seek. Huge posting incoming.

[LeaD]

I suggest gunning Nick this game, he seemed the most town friendly and helpful
or Crypt, if he went on alert last night he should still be a cit.

[Dust]

I suggest gunning Nick this game, he seemed the most town friendly and helpful
or Crypt, if he went on alert last night he should still be a cit.

So he's going to go the jester road

[LeaD]

who is?

[Cryptonic]

Ok, I killed someone last night as veteran.
What does veteran kill show up as?


Also -lottery

[Nick]

ChillKid is blackmailer
Suspicious confirmed Day1 bussing to prevent masoning. But if he busses, then he can't blackmail. Unless he has a team already. Existing SK team or they mafia found each other. More likely framed.

ChillKid is mafia
Suspicious confirmed Day1 bussing to prevent masoning. He can bus and still blackmail (nice observation from CmG). So bussing is not foolproof claim. And he claimed having vest today? Giving vest to a citizen and a suspect? Fishy. Possible GF? Claimed citizen day1. More likely than being framed.

ChillKid is lying
With confirmed bussing, unless he has a team, or there are more liars, difficult to imagine.

ChillKid is framed
He did bus and feedback was confirmed. Excluding seeking or having teammates, it is likely that he is being framed. If unconfirmed Kromos-ChillKid bussing is true then ChillKid is likely framed.

Bahkieh is blackmailer
Claimed Sheriff and Capitalier is not suspicious. But no feedback. Either he lied visiting Capitalier, he is blackmailer visiting Bluejay, or he is framed. Not sure if Bahkieh ever initiated lies unless pressured. Odd. Still more likely than ChillKid.

Bahkieh is mafia
If visiting Capitalier is true and he is not framed, and he visits Bluejay, then he is lying, or can also seek.

Bahkieh is lying
Unless another neutral trying to act like town and call scum not suspicious to avoid getting killed.

Bahkieh is framed
Bahkieh is crap at lying and is also a good investigation target (cause easy to squeeze information out of him). But still, framing is normally done on high value targets Kromos -> ChillKid, CmG, Capitalier or I (heh)?

Bluejay is lying
Why blackmail? The most unless mafia ability in FM. And Bluejay even. Not even an active player. Fishiness to the max. Had not claimed, nor helped in current discussion. Metagame wise, will Escaho derp like lesser hosts and serve us confirmed mafia?

[Nick]

ChillKid is mafia
Suspicious confirmed Day1 bussing to prevent masoning. He can bus and still seek (nice observation from CmG). So bussing is not foolproof claim. And he claimed having vest today? Giving vest to a citizen and a suspect? Fishy. Possible GF? Claimed citizen day1. More likely than being framed.

Derp.

[Bahkieh]

I lied because I had vigil/bmer. Im sure a random kill would be frowned upon and if I came out and said I blackmailed bluejay...well I would probably be lynched for doing so.

[Goremancer]

I am writing this on a school computer. I chose the detective role and tracked auckmid since the town seemed suspicious of him. He did not visit anyone last night. I'll read everything over once I get back home.

[Nick]

I suggest gunning Nick this game, he seemed the most town friendly and helpful
or Crypt, if he went on alert last night he should still be a cit.

Are you sure you are not a citizen converted to evil?

If you are neutral, you might get killed at night when you are not ghost or lynched at day when you are not jester. Better act more towny. But stay neutral on votes.

I plan to vote Bluejay to make him talk more, but I'm leaving soon. I don't like leaving votes around.

When voting, remember that second double vote is invisible? Careful.