I see how stringent your requirements for confirmed townie are. Yet, you assign Sino a confirmed townie status as either vigilante or citizen for a logically inconsistent reason. (See my earlier post). Unless you address this, I cannot take anything you say as having value.
Me while I wait for him to explain a logically inconsistent argument.
Hello everyone, just woke up and will be jumping into the discussion soon.
A few things I'd like to point out.
- I almost didn't shoot Funce last night because I expected he would be modkilled due to inactivity. But since ika was taken out at end of day yesterday and funce wasn't, I decided to do as I was told in case I was wrong.
- I received feedback that I was controlled, so I assume the Marshall or Sheriff become my target but I am not sure which as I wasn't told who my new target was. This means that there is a Witch, likely among those who claimed citizen.
- Fury was also told to shoot Funce/Frog and did not. Instead he goes off script and shoots a citizen. Is this town behavior?
- Unknown, who claimed Bodyguard, wasn't protecting the Marshall for some reason? I'm sorry but if I was BG I'd be on confirmed town.
To address Sino, I remembered this post and how Funce had 0 posts. I honestly forgot I read the word replacement, so I thought shooting him would be a waste of a shot. Regardless, if Frog can contribute to this game, then I'm glad I shot likely scum (ccantman) over an inactive player. I remember Frog said something about this now, actually =)
By Frog's logic, shooting Funce/Frog would have been a mistake.
If you make another personal attack I'm quitting the game.
I see your logic, but not your questions. Stop grandstanding.
You're saying if I believe a vig claim to have no scum motivation, why wouldn't I Village read both you AND Sino?
Because you can't see that Sino's claim is never scum.
To walk you through the logic which you've missed:
Sino claims vigilante
He's either Vigilante or FPSing Citizen
If he were scum, he would have claimed the RLVG shot.
If he were scum, he'd have painted a target on his back.
That you can't see this makes me highly suspect:
1. Your alliance (tinfoiling Mafia with a Mafia roleblocked)
2. Your judgement (considering your tunnel choices)
I don't understand your logic regarding the bodyguard.
This only clears you from being a Triad.
The bodyguard already died. Why haven't you been killed if you're so 'cleared'?
@Unknown1234 , you should really come to either defend yourself or give your opinion.
What? No, I thought I'd let you shoot funce to prove yourself. I shot ccantman because I thought I was confirmed enough town and could scum hunt. I said I'd be shooting the next 2 nights because I expected to die either last night(If unknown wasn't BG) or this night(if unknown was BG). 2 nights to live, 2 shots. I thought it'd be best to use them before town lost too much voting power.
Unknown claimed BG, so if I died last night, then Unknown isn't BG (Marshall told Unknown to guard me). I fully expected Unknown to die if BG. Since he didn't die and I wasn't attacked, it really makes me wonder why scum didn't kill BG or (more likely) that he isn't BG.
I still find it kind of funny with 2 vig claims that you didn't shoot each other to resolve it but we're here now.
I only insult whenever I see someone who is clearly very skilled (such as yourself) doing something irrational. I do apologize, but I also had a scum lean on you for quickly and irrationally defending Sino and I was salty I didn't shoot you at the time. I basically thought I saved a scum at the cost of a citizen.... Anyways, let's move on from that.
Yeah I realize this isn't the easiest story to believe considering that no one else has reported witch feedback yet, but considering that so many players have been inactive or barely participating I believe either the witch controlled players who never bothered to report it or else has been laying low and waiting for TPRs to reveal.
Hell if I was scum I'm sure I could come with a better excuse than this lol
Lol, the bolded is my only reservation.
Like, it's just such a bad lie if it's a lie.
With two vig claims, you guys need to be resolved, and it looks 1000x better for Fury than for you.
My ONLY hesitation is whether there were ever 4 kills in one night.
If there were, then it's a different ball game.
We have 7 players alive. The fact that I have a bullet left means town isn't fucked just yet if I shoot scum tonight.
Saving a bullet tonight:
Game becomes 5 after singular night kill tonight. I may die though. If I do die, then Unknown will immediately be lynched and game could possibly end right there. If not over after Unknown lynch, it's 3 players. Still a chance for town.
Shooting:
Game becomes 4 after tonight. I may be dead, but if I hit scum game may immediately end anyway with a kill on scum + lynch on Unknown (assuming he didn't kill me).
I think I'm guaranteed to live as long as Unknown isn't lynched. If I ever die, lynch Unknown.
You can't use meta on "if I were scum, I'd have a better lie," because the person behind that account (don't think it's Sino - Btw frog, April Fools prank for this game switched around a bunch of accounts) has only 300-ish posts total anyway on his first FM or so FM game.
There was a night with 4 deaths, but that was attributed to a bodyguard.
Ok, and I'll leave a last will in that case. On unknown, yes I agree which is why I pinged him. @Unknown1234 maybe a 2nd ping will work.
BG dying causing 4 deaths means still only 3 night kills. And I got feedback that I was attacked, so there wasn't a 4th night kill. Seems like you're grasping at straws.
"Quote Originally Posted by SlaoI
I don't know who's scum right now.
I checked Iced.
Mason-slaol and Sino are NS, but I only detect Triad/Mafia and Cult. So they could still be neutral killers or DI."
Did anyone read this?
Ohhh!!! But could still be 3P
Ok ok 👌🏻
I was kinda hesitant to block with you Frog, but I read you more town than the other people alive (RIP Trine). I'd like for Iced to come say a few things and for you to give your opinion. Something about him didn't sit right with me, but Grommor derailed my lynch on DH and started a train on a townie and did a million other things that blew my mind, so we lynched him instead. Anyways, I'd like for us to lynch Sino today and look into Iced potentially tomorrow.
@Iced_Monopoly
Looks like he died before he found out if Iced was scum or not? Damn.
I'm going to be gone for an hour. Be back then ^_^
I'm going out as well. Be back later.
Sino, if you're the 3P, that essentially clears Fury when you flip.
If you're villager vigilante, Fury will look 3P due to balance.
I'm going to operate on that assumption since Fury was protected by a bodyguard and the Dragon Head flipped. Ergo, not Triad.
That leaves at leaves at least 1-3 triad remaining and 1-2 3P remaining.
22 players:
Dead Players:
Trine - Marshall
SlaoI - Sheriff
SIaoI - Bodyguard
Fred/secondpassing - Veteran
Alright - Mason Leader
PowersThatBe - Citizen
Mesk514 - Citizen
Stealthbomber16 - Citizen
Grommor - Citizen
Gyrlander/ccantman - Citizen
ika - Amnesiac
Voss - Witch Doctor
Yzb25 - Witch Doctor
Firebringer - Dragon Head
RLVG - Administrator
Frog- Citizen
Sino- Vig/3P*
Fury- Vig*/3P
Unknown- Bodyguard/CitizenFPS (I can't see why Unknown!Wolf blocks himself off from killing Fury!Village ever)
This basically guarantees 2/3 of the following are Triad:
Slaol
Slaol
Iced
Thinking through the best strategy for today.
If we lynch the 3P - 6 left.
If there are 3 triad left we lose at the lynch.
If there are only 1-2 left we continue.
They must shoot Unknown.
Any other shot outs their team and risks loss.
If your shoot, there's a 2/3 chance it works, but then we're at MYLO with 4 players.
If you holster we're at F5 with:
Frog
Fury
Slaol
Slaol
Iced
Pick 2/3 scum in there.
I can't see any fewer than 4 triad for setup balance.
I want some claims from Slaol/Slaol/Iced
I'll be checking in occasionally but I'm not rereading the thread yet.
@Sino
You're the outted 3P as far as I'm concerned.
Drop the act and explain to me who you think is triad and why we should focus on them first.
What makes this even more lolzorly:
By deduction Sino took the RLVG but didn't claim it.
Why wouldn't you claim that shit for cred?
Very good posts, Frog. I'll add to it when I'm done eating, but you broke it down better than I did for sure.
Spoiler : For you Sino :
Don't worry, be happy