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    FM 16 Epilogue

    At the end of an exhausting town war. Only 2 people remained standing: Gimli and Cluseau. With uncertain ease, they stared at each other, not willing to turn their back to a potential enemy. With Frogs death, they knew that they had a 50/50 chance that they had killed the witch. It was hopeless, they never trusted each other again. Even if they had succeeded in killing the witch, life would never be the same in FuzzywuzzyTown.

    Frog has been buried alive... he is the Witch. Stay tuned for FM17 where he escapes his grave!

    FM 16 Game Statistics:

    Mafia killed: 7.5 town - 0 scum
    Vig killed: 5.5 town - 0 scum
    Gun owners killed: 5 town - 0 scum
    Jailor killed: 0 town - 1 scum
    FuzzywuzzyTown lynched: 2 town - 6 scum
    FM GM modkilled: 8 town - 1 scum

    Final Town-Scum ratio after modkills: 26 vs 7 (28 v 7 would be the initial 4-1)
    Town remaining: 2/34 5%

    Despite the incredible odds against scum this game, and the low scum kpn, the scum came very close to seizing victory. Scum dominated the night, but couldn't stand together during the day to cause mislynches which lead to their downfall. This was a very entertaining game from a hosts point of view, I'm surprised it came this close.

    Awards:

    For leading the Town in scumhunting against multiple people with reliable evidence (which didn't always point to scum) and starting more bandwagons than anyone else and for valiant efforts to find the scum. Auckmid is the Town MVP. Unlike most people that may have been more accurate in their hunches, Auckmid demonstrated his evidence in a way that was very hard for anyone to defend himself. As for his night actions, even though he gave 2 items to scum (1 being a random vest n1), they could not use them as they wished, Wolverine was forced to comply to Auckmids demands and thus town always controlled the gunman. And despite town failing every single night at hitting scum with those guns, I still agree that giving out guns is better than giving out vests that never get used. His unpredictability minimized the witches efforts to control the guns.

    For taking over as commander of the Mafia once the GF was killed, and for extensive wifom use as well as causing the only mislynch that was not known during the game. Gerik is Scum MVP. Unlike most of the scum that laid back and followed the sheep, Wolverine tried more than any other scum to mislead the town. And as GM, I have to say, most of his posts were well thought out and mostly protown. It is in my opinion that lynching the vig the day he revealed would have been more pro-town than against town. Unfortunately, early mistakes were never forgotten and he somehow could never get out of peoples heads as a scummy lurker, which is strange since he participated more than most people.

    For remaining undetected to most living players and almost clinching victory for the Scum. Clementine has earned the Players Choice award. It was a very close decision that Frog didn't get the Scum MVP award as well. But something very few of you know, I protected Frog early on. The jailor was random jailing and executing.. Frog was the next one to be jailed, thus I could not give him MVP as he would have been instantly found out even if he wasn't executed, the missing witch action would point right to him.

    For starting days exactly when he meant to and not a second late, the Time Keeper award goes to Yayap, who already had it since FM-X. So he retains his title of most punctual host.
    I must also thank oops_ur_dead for the voting tool, I would never have been able to host with my busy schedule if I had to count votes all day. And it certainly made my job much easier.

    I have a few ideas what I want to change for the next FMs, but I want to hear from you:

    1- Did you enjoy the less follow the PR type game?
    2- Was the voting mechanics easy to use?
    3- What would you change if you were hosting this game?
    and most of all
    4- Did you have fun?
    Last edited by Forum Mafia GM; January 25th, 2013 at 06:25 PM.

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    Re: FM 16 Epilogue

    Aww, we don't get nifty banner thingies to put in our signatures?!

    1. Yes. This game was nothing if not balanced. There were enough PRs to create , but so many that they overwhelmed the game. I suppose you could argue that the early sheriff claims lead to quite a bit of "follow the PR", but they only found 2 scum, 1 of which was basically already on the chopping block.

    2. Sort of. It took a bit of figuring out, but once I realized that unvote is unnecessary when transferring the vote from one person to another, it was pretty simple.

    3. I actually can't think of anything I'd change. It was really well done. You're a good host.

    4. Yes. It took some getting used to, but once I figured it out, I thoroughly enjoyed it, and I already look forward to the next one.

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    Re: FM 16 Epilogue

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    GG!!!!

    Hurray!!!
    Town wins!!

    Very nice play very nice play indeedy.
    I had tons of fun this game
    I loved the style of this game that relied more on voting patterns and post analysis over PR leads.
    I'd not changed anything as this was a damn good hosted game.
    Sorry I fucked up FoSing you agahnim :P

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    Re: FM 16 Epilogue

    If i learned 1 thing out of this game its that the sc2mafia community is not compatible with mass citizen games. I will remember this game as an experiment which was interesting to follow but ultimatively failed in the end. Thanks to the lack of activity, thought and time people invested into this. Yes i know xmas, new year whatever. But try to be honest with yourself. Would you have spend more time with the game otherwise? Probably not. In the end everyone just followed the TPR over 80% of the whole game. I am just glad that at least 1 competent town was left at the end to make the right decision.

    I seriously hope that the next FM's aren't citizen based. If i would want to play like that i would be on another page.

    Oh yeah. Gz to our MVP's. You surely deserve to be credited for your performance in this game. Both of you had a pretty huge impact on the outcomming of the game. Which went hand in hand with your night action cababilities. I really have high expectations of you 2 in FM17.


    Woops. I almost fogot the most important thing. Thanks for hosting this FM, Yayap. Like always you are the most punctional host on sc2mafia. Kudos to you.
    Last edited by CmG; January 18th, 2013 at 06:27 PM.
    Spoiler : fm history :
    FM 6: Commoner/Legionare(roman)/Legionare(Sin) FM8: Stan Investigator FM9:Yakov German(Sapper) FM10: Fm Rumpel Vigilante FM11: Renekton: Serial Killer FM12: Sandor: citizen = scum FM13: Wicket : Devourer FM14: Torynn: Andrew Ryan (GF)

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    Re: FM 16 Epilogue

    Fun game. Although I do agree that, Because it had an insane amount of Citizens AND that the FM happened right in the middle of the holidays and that some people were really busy (Including myself), the lurkyness was to be expected; especially with the high number of players.

    It was a overall enjoyable game; Only thing I would recommend next time is to be more constant with the modkills.

    I really didn't play my best on this game; And I was rather lurky on the first days.
    I, honestly, prefer games with more PRs, as much as I enjoy playing Citizen myself
    Spoiler : FM History :
    FMs: XIV, XV, XVI, XVII, XVII, XVIII, XIX, XX, XXI
    MFMs: XIII, XIV, XVI, XVII, XVIII, XIX, XXI, XXII
    SFMs: Too many.
    SFM Night 1 Death Percentage: 72%
    Hosted: SFM 89, SFM 118

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    Re: FM 16 Epilogue

    1- Did you enjoy the less follow the PR type game?
    Never played FM before soooo........ but people should just man up and play their damn cit roles

    2- Was the voting mechanics easy to use?
    yes. once it was fixed.

    3- What would you change if you were hosting this game?
    more consistent modkillings

    and most of all
    4- Did you have fun?
    yes. a lot.

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    Re: FM 16 Epilogue

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss View Post
    citizen was fun. claiming doctor n1 and no one believing it the whole game. should be fun to do it again.
    xD

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss View Post
    1- Did you enjoy the less follow the PR type game?
    Never played FM before soooo........ but people should just man up and play their damn cit roles

    2- Was the voting mechanics easy to use?
    yes. once it was fixed.

    3- What would you change if you were hosting this game?
    more consistent modkillings

    and most of all
    4- Did you have fun?
    yes. a lot.
    Indeed. But the Host did really well.
    FMGM MVP!

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    First off I have to say Good Game to everyone. I am always impressed by Clementine, who I would have never guessed was the witch. Gerik played a great game, and Auckmid arguable saved us. Good work everyone.

    Secondly. I want to commit suicide after this game. I played terribly. Like Terribly Terribly. I need to be banished or something. I really let my namesake, Indiana Jones, down. Such a depressing play by me. I must practice!


    1- Did you enjoy the less follow the PR type game?
    Lol. I can't answer that.
    2- Was the voting mechanics easy to use?
    Yes. It was annoying if you had text under the vote tags because it wouldn't count the vote sometimes.
    3- What would you change if you were hosting this game?
    Giving Appley sheriff Not much at all. I would like to see a Random Any just to mess with people xD
    4- Did you have fun?
    Of course.

    Thank you for hosting this Yayap. I look forward to FM 17.
    Quote Originally Posted by Elixir View Post
    You should be priviledged to experience bestmas.

    "waah the screen is shaking, waah my delicate eyes".

    Fuck sake.

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    uuu I didn't see questions b4

    1- Did you enjoy the less follow the PR type game?
    Nope, too many lurking
    2- Was the voting mechanics easy to use?
    I don;'t think there is any noticeable difference then typing in red
    3- What would you change if you were hosting this game?
    Having the better players as mafia, since they are at a heavy number disadvantage
    4- Did you have fun?
    Sure! But I was sad I played badly, I'm a terrible scumhunter

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    Re: FM 16 Epilogue

    Sadly, most citizens lurked and/or sheeped after PR's. A bunch of them even flaunted in the day chat that everyone should sheep after unCC'd PR's just because they were the only proven town.

    Most of the scumhunting was done by a select few people and many of those reads were off because the majority of the scum (Dracula, Locutus, Spongebob, Rubber Ducky) semi-lurked among the lurky citizens because it was their best chance to blend in (or because they weren't interested enough, like those citizens).

    Many people just don't know what to do without night actions, because they're spoilt by SC2 mafia power roles.

    I think a better alternative would be to give citizens some kind of tiny impact at night, or adding some special mechanics that citizens can talk about and that could help in finding the scum. Like letting them solve a puzzle or something to get a small clue or a one-use night action.
    [FMVI: Angel FMVIII: Gunsmith FMIX: Peasant FMX: Blacksmith
    MFM-I: Serial Killer MFM-II: Citizen MFM-III: Detective MFM-IV: Godfather/Witch MFM-V: Emperor MFM-VI:Host
    SFM-I: Spy SFM-II: Bandit SFM-III: Host SFM-VI: Skeleton Knight
    Awards: MFM-IV MVP SFM-VI MVP]

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    Re: FM 16 Epilogue

    Completely different, because Clementine's hypo-claim plan decided the entire course of the game.
    [FMVI: Angel FMVIII: Gunsmith FMIX: Peasant FMX: Blacksmith
    MFM-I: Serial Killer MFM-II: Citizen MFM-III: Detective MFM-IV: Godfather/Witch MFM-V: Emperor MFM-VI:Host
    SFM-I: Spy SFM-II: Bandit SFM-III: Host SFM-VI: Skeleton Knight
    Awards: MFM-IV MVP SFM-VI MVP]

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    Re: FM 16 Epilogue

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Game Master View Post
    FM GM modkilled: 8 town - 1 scum
    FIRST OF ALL, I've got to say: WHAT THE FLYING FUCK? HERE'S A SUGGESTION: NEXT TIME, DON'T PUT EVERYONE WHO SIGNED UP INTO THE GAME. THERE SHOULD BE A FRACTION OF SIGNERS PUT INTO RESERVES LIST, TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING. LIKE 3/15 OF THE TOTAL SIGNERS SHOULD BE PUT INTO RESERVES LIST. OR MAKE A PREMEDITATED SET-UP AND PUT THE LEFTOVER SIGNERS INTO RESERVE. sorry, but modkills are disturbing. i was already dead and i found this disturbing.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Game Master View Post
    1- Did you enjoy the less follow the PR type game?
    2- Was the voting mechanics easy to use?
    3- What would you change if you were hosting this game?
    and most of all
    4- Did you have fun?
    1- i didnt do much, but it was okay. doctors failed btw
    2- yes
    3- refer to my paragraph in caps lock. i fucking hate modkills. apart from that, Y CAPTAIN JACK SPARROW NO GET MVP?
    4- yes
    Spoiler : Forum Mafia :

    FM VI: Ash (Sinner) FM VII: Glen (Drug Dealer) FM VIII: Liane (Vigilante) FM IX: Andrei (Reserved Proletarian) FM X: fm Deathfire123 (Modkilled Blacksmith) FM XI: Corki (Citizen) FM XIII: Phoebe (Bodyguard) FM XIV: Helena (Grave Robber) FM XV: FM Pikachu (Mayor) FM XVI: FM Master Chef (Escort)

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    Re: FM 16 Epilogue

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Ceasar
    Grow up.
    Oh come on, Mister MVP.
    That wasn't all too serious.

    I just think that he seriously should've reread Frog's post, and to this day, I still don't understand how he ''confirmed'' Clementine as town.

    Like I said, Lynching him was the best move. Town probably would've lost it if they didn't.
    Spoiler : FM History :
    FMs: XIV, XV, XVI, XVII, XVII, XVIII, XIX, XX, XXI
    MFMs: XIII, XIV, XVI, XVII, XVIII, XIX, XXI, XXII
    SFMs: Too many.
    SFM Night 1 Death Percentage: 72%
    Hosted: SFM 89, SFM 118

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    Re: FM 16 Epilogue

    GG guys. Even with all the citizen modkills, I still thought it was a realy good game.

    1- Did you enjoy the less follow the PR type game?
    I do very much like the citizen based setup, and was sad that there were so many rage-quiters
    2- Was the voting mechanics easy to use?
    Yes
    3- What would you change if you were hosting this game?
    and most of all
    I have to agree somewhat with Ash. I would have been fine with less players and more reserves. Oh so many modkills...
    4- Did you have fun?
    Yes
    Quote Originally Posted by Azuriae View Post
    Oh come on, Mister MVP.
    That wasn't all too serious.

    I just think that he seriously should've reread Frog's post, and to this day, I still don't understand how he ''confirmed'' Clementine as town.

    Like I said, Lynching him was the best move. Town probably would've lost it if they didn't.
    While I agree that Fragos did not play anywhere near his best this game, calling someone out as LVP is realy bad taste.

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    Re: FM 16 Epilogue

    tl;dr yayap modkills for good town night actions.
    I love oops

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    Re: FM 16 Epilogue

    Are you like the only host that hasn't posted a video in their epilogue? Or images??
    Spoiler : Forum Mafia :

    FM VI: Ash (Sinner) FM VII: Glen (Drug Dealer) FM VIII: Liane (Vigilante) FM IX: Andrei (Reserved Proletarian) FM X: fm Deathfire123 (Modkilled Blacksmith) FM XI: Corki (Citizen) FM XIII: Phoebe (Bodyguard) FM XIV: Helena (Grave Robber) FM XV: FM Pikachu (Mayor) FM XVI: FM Master Chef (Escort)

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    Re: FM 16 Epilogue

    Quote Originally Posted by FM The Joker View Post
    Well the game was interesting, probably my last.
    Hey you! Yes, you!
    What happened to your heal? D:

    Did you forget to submit a night action?
    Spoiler : FM History :
    FMs: XIV, XV, XVI, XVII, XVII, XVIII, XIX, XX, XXI
    MFMs: XIII, XIV, XVI, XVII, XVIII, XIX, XXI, XXII
    SFMs: Too many.
    SFM Night 1 Death Percentage: 72%
    Hosted: SFM 89, SFM 118

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    Re: FM 16 Epilogue

    Quote Originally Posted by MintBerry Crunch View Post
    Ya I just noticed u were jailor who killed Pinkie but guess that isn't active.
    I would've killed Clementine too but Yayap ended my righteous rampage before it could begin.
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    Re: FM 16 Epilogue

    Quote Originally Posted by Auckmid View Post
    Who's hosting next FM? CmG?
    I am.
    Spoiler : Forum Mafia :

    FM VI: Ash (Sinner) FM VII: Glen (Drug Dealer) FM VIII: Liane (Vigilante) FM IX: Andrei (Reserved Proletarian) FM X: fm Deathfire123 (Modkilled Blacksmith) FM XI: Corki (Citizen) FM XIII: Phoebe (Bodyguard) FM XIV: Helena (Grave Robber) FM XV: FM Pikachu (Mayor) FM XVI: FM Master Chef (Escort)

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