S-FM 214 Mean Girls

[Eggy]

scum has to concede now basically

[Eggy]

if duck is lying he loses after we lynch mesk and if he is telling the truth then its gg either way

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I didn't really breadcrumb whad as my check because I am cool like that, but lets see.

When I asked whad/eggy their top 2town/scum I told whad not to tell me why he thought I was scum because I didn't care as I knew we were both town.
Assured mattzed his train was started by town (me, whad). Told him to reevaluate on whad.

Pretty weak softing in that regard by me, but oh well.

[secondpassing]

Well I dont think a vote is going to be necessary, mesk will concede once she logs in.

I'm tempted to just vote you for the time being.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I mean someone can counter me if they want. We can lynch the counter, me, and then mesk and still win lol.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I'm tempted to just vote you for the time being.

I mean I can get myself lynched if it will make mesk concede quicker. If I was mafia I would have already conceded in chat like I did in both of quick's games once town had auto. Well nvm because if I was mafia I don't open claim cop

[SuperJack]

Lol. S.P. is not dead. And instead unknown.
I'm gonna sleep.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I was going to soft claim in my first post by mentioning methane since its formed with CH - cady heron, but then I realized lohan is a drug addict and that would be way to telling

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Lol. S.P. is not dead. And instead unknown.
I'm gonna sleep.

do you even read what the fuck bro.

[Eggy]

-vote plzleaveduckk

only way to know if your telling the truth

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

-vote plzleaveduckk

only way to know if your telling the truth

or if we lynch mesk.

[SuperJack]

do you even read what the fuck bro.

Yeah you claim cop yadda yadda yadda. But no one should always go for the duck claim because of your history. But idc much I'm tired tomorrownshit

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Yeah you claim cop yadda yadda yadda. But no one should always go for the duck claim because of your history. But idc much I'm tired tomorrownshit

You have on my ducky heart that this is a hard cop claim, never fake, never rescinding.

[SuperJack]

You have on my ducky heart that this is a hard cop claim, never fake, never rescinding.

K.

[Whad]

Very interesting developments.

[MattZed]

Mesk being scum makes a lot of sense mechanically.

Scum needs to kill the Cop. Who wouldn't kill an uncontested cop claimer? Someone who knows they aren't. IE: Mesk, who SP (fake?)claimed was his peak.
Mesk also was on my train as opposed to Purebe's train.
Mesk softed Citizen, while every other citizen realized it was in their best interest to try to pretend being the Cop. Mesk wasn't acting from a cit mindset.

I'll reset the votes if @Frog or @Calix don't get to it soon.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Very interesting developments.

my n0 check scum read me early

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I just way to say Gretchen is my love and since there are only two mean girls, she is clearly one of the good girls.

Purebe/mesk are the mafia... so new record in solving the game.

-vote whad

No giving reads without reasoning this game!!

I can't read duck because he's in my head

Is what kind of gave it away. Pure knows I constantly randomly state all 3 mafia at the start in the mod, but he thinks I hack there. He was probably extremely confused when I randomly did it in FM.

[secondpassing]

Mesk being scum makes a lot of sense mechanically.

Scum needs to kill the Cop. Who wouldn't kill an uncontested cop claimer? Someone who knows they aren't. IE: Mesk, who SP (fake?)claimed was his peak.
Mesk also was on my train as opposed to Purebe's train.
Mesk softed Citizen, while every other citizen realized it was in their best interest to try to pretend being the Cop. Mesk wasn't acting from a cit mindset.

I'll reset the votes if @Frog or @Calix don't get to it soon.

Yesterday's lynch took us kind of by surprise huh ?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

oh and I don't rvs vote.

I voted whad to make him "off limits" so I would know if anyone ever voted whad it was because they scum read him, and not be able to use the "rvs phase" reasoning.

[Whad]

I don't know what bullshit Duckk is pulling but he's not the cop. Checking Mesk last night makes 0 sense for Duckk as the "cop" to do.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I don't know what bullshit Duckk is pulling but he's not the cop. Checking Mesk last night makes 0 sense for Duckk as the "cop" to do.

oh boy my confirmed check is going full facepalm

Confirmed town:
Duck
Whad
(need a check that wont die in the night, so mesk, eggy, SUPERJACK)
Secondpassing is essentially a reliable 4th confirmed town if i get a green check and town has auto

I am not checking mattzed or sp who might die for claiming cop.
I am not checking eggy because he is in the lynch pool from poe regardless
I would check superjack but hes green to me
so that leaves mesk


The only error in checking mesk is that if mattzed dies in the night, it is reasonable to assume mesk is red.

[Whad]

So based on Pure flipping scum,

Unknown, Plzleaveduckk (hammer), and secondpassing are confirmed as townies since they could have easily switched the vote to MattZed if they were scum thereby letting their scum partner go free.

MattZed still can be scum since in the world of MattZed and Purebe as the scum team it totally makes sense to sacrifice a weak player (Purebe) for a stronger player (MattZed) who talked us out of lynching him for Suntax's terribad first post and Mattzed's subsequent super scummy defense of said post.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Whad if I am fake, the mafia already knows I am fake because... all I am potentially doing is forcing a real cop to counterclaim me who might have had unknown has their n0 or n1 and in whichcase I fuck town over badly.

[MattZed]

@Whad , I would really look more at the fact that the mafia didn't kill SP than the fact that a scum was lynched, although both are compelling and point in a similar direction.

[Whad]

Whad if I am fake, the mafia already knows I am fake because... all I am potentially doing is forcing a real cop to counterclaim me who might have had unknown has their n0 or n1 and in whichcase I fuck town over badly.

Please explain why unknown wasn't on your list of people to check N1. Please explain why you checked me N0.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

@Whad , I would really look more at the fact that the mafia didn't kill SP than the fact that a scum was lynched, although both are compelling and point in a similar direction.

Wouldn't it be more logical to assume you are the real cop though since it was your n0 check who claimed after you. From my POV it looked like SP thought you were the cop and was trying to attempt a role bullet

[MattZed]

Wouldn't it be more logical to assume you are the real cop though since it was your n0 check who claimed after you. From my POV it looked like SP thought you were the cop and was trying to attempt a role bullet

I suppose. But in either case, why in the world would someone conclude Unknown was the best guess at cop? Who would think that?

[MattZed]

Please explain why unknown wasn't on your list of people to check N1. Please explain why you checked me N0.

N0 check is random.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Please explain why unknown wasn't on your list of people to check N1. Please explain why you checked me N0.

Unknown was like a 5th town slot, potential night kill, didn't take the 2 hours of me begging him to hammer a confirmed town when he could have saved his partner.

I checked you because of shitty algorithms.

[Whad]

@Whad , I would really look more at the fact that the mafia didn't kill SP than the fact that a scum was lynched, although both are compelling and point in a similar direction.

This is literally what I would expect a scum MattZed to argue. I mean, I don't think Duckk is scum, but I also don't think he's the cop. Therefore I don't believe his result on Mesk and would rather lynch you lol.

[Whad]

N0 check is random.

Yeah thanks a lot mate. I was trying to catch Duckk in a lie :P ahahhaha

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I fake claim cop every game, everyone believes me.

I roll cop, nobody believes me, even when it is mechanically impossible to win by faking cop.

feels bad man.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Yeah thanks a lot mate. I was trying to catch Duckk in a lie :P ahahhaha

I fake claim cop for a living, that will not work on me.

Although I did self fuck up a cop claim once since I didn't know cop couldn't check n1.

[MattZed]

This is literally what I would expect a scum MattZed to argue. I mean, I don't think Duckk is scum, but I also don't think he's the cop. Therefore I don't believe his result on Mesk and would rather lynch you lol.

Really, what scum who gets to L-1 PL's his partner near EoD?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Can we stop debating my cop claim, and praise my awesome 1st post of the game solving skills. It took a lot of heart and soul to do this guys.

[MattZed]

I fake claim cop every game, everyone believes me.

I roll cop, nobody believes me, even when it is mechanically impossible to win by faking cop.

feels bad man.

I'm going to state for the record that I believe Duckk. =P

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Really, what scum who gets to L-1 PL's his partner near EoD?

:waves:

[MattZed]

:waves:

Oh, I very strongly considered that you were mafia suiciding by faking cop right now until I saw SP let you go uncontested.

[Whad]

Really, what scum who gets to L-1 PL's his partner near EoD?

For towncred.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

For towncred.

towncred that puts them at the poe end of 3 confirmed town/7 players with 3 lynches if they miss the cop

[MattZed]

For towncred.

I'm not saying no one has ever deep wolfed before, but it's still an incredibly stupid gambit.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

mz as mafia kills sp(real cop!?) in the night, frames mesk, and goes from there.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

why the fuck am i entertaining shit thats impossible

[Frog]

4 votes to hammer.

There we go

[secondpassing]

I'm pretty sure its {resetcount}{/resetcount} and {L}4{/L}

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

still needs to clear votes or I could hammer mattzed right now for example

[secondpassing]

Can we just all agree to lynch PLZLEAVEDUCKK today and then Mesk514 tomorrow?

[secondpassing]

still needs to clear votes or I could hammer mattzed right now for example

That sounds like fun.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Can we just all agree to lynch PLZLEAVEDUCKK today and then Mesk514 tomorrow?

we lynch mesk today. We can lynch me in the postgame though.

I have never been lynched in FM, and plan to keep it that way.