S-FM 212: Paired Mafia

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Paired Mafia!!

Signups

Group 1	Group 2
MiniZed Yukitaka Oni PLZLEAVEDUCKK Titus Eggy	MattZed OrpZ Frog SuperJack ThePrince

Living Players	Dead Players
Eggy Yukitaka Oni PLZLEAVEDUCKK Frog SuperJack MattZed Titus MiniZed ThePrince Orpz

@Eggy
@Gingerape
@PLZLEAVEDUCKK
@Frog
@SuperJack
@MattZed
@Titus
@MiniZed
@ThePrince
@ThePaladin

When everyone has confirmed their role, and it is a good time for me to start the game, The game will start.

Time to confirm:

[Countdown Timers Cannot be Quoted from Other Posts]

If you do not confirm your role in 24 hours, I will replace you.

Mafia have N0 chat.

RULES OF CONDUCT:
NO OUTSIDE COMMUNICATION ABOUT THE GAME (Ex. skype, pms, other threads, phones calls and the like.)
NO QUOTING ANYTHING FROM OUTSIDE THE GAME
NO FAKE QUOTING
NO EDITING OR DELETING POSTS
NO EXCESSIVE PERSONAL ATTACKS (I will be the one to decide that)
NO POSTING ANY LANGUAGE BUT ENGLISH
LIMIT FLUFF POSTING TO A BARE MINIMUM (I will be the one to decide that)
HYDRAS ARE ALLOWED BETWEEN 2 PEOPLE, BUT ONE MEMBER MUST HAVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE THAT THEY HAVE PLAYED AT LEAST 3 GAMES
GOLDEN ROD IS MY COLOR DO NOT USE IT
YOU MUST POST AT LEAST 3 CONTENT RELATED POST EACH 24 HOUR PERIOD.
YOU ARE TO PLAY TO YOUR WIN CONDITION. IF I THINK YOU ARE NOT AND I WARN YOU AND YOU DO IT ANYWAYS, I WILL EXPLAIN IN DETAIL TO THE MODS WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND YOU WILL BE SUBJECTED TO PUNISHMENT IF THE MODS AGREE WITH ME
GAME THROWING OR THREATENING TO GAME THROW IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.
THREATENING TO BREAK THE RULE IS JUST AS BAD AS BREAKING THEM IN MY GAMES.
HAVE FUN!!!

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START OF DAY 2!!

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One person has not yet confirmed..

I'm giving them an additional 24 hours to confirm before I replace them.

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@Eggy
@Yukitaka Oni
@PLZLEAVEDUCKK
@Frog
@SuperJack
@MattZed
@Titus
@MiniZed
@ThePrince
@Orpz

Game starts now. You must lynch from Group 1. 6 votes to hammer.

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[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Can we all agree that if there is a survivor, he should hard claim and we agree to not policy lynch them?

pros:
1) eliminates mafia and other neutrals from using "hes an exe, ignore him" defense, forcing them to use real logic to defend themselves
2) we can reasonably assume its cult guy as the other neutral ( Not sure if mafia or neutral will fake claim survivor. Mafia will fear a policy lynch?, and the other neutral would get insta lynched if one of the other neutrals die, and or is cult which they know a survivor will cc them and just win)
3) rest should be common sense... so i am not going to explain....

cons:
1) people have no honor and will policy lynch the survivor anyway because they are dumb.

[MattZed]

Can we all agree that if there is a survivor, he should hard claim and we agree to not policy lynch them?

pros:
1) eliminates mafia and other neutrals from using "hes an exe, ignore him" defense, forcing them to use real logic to defend themselves
2) we can reasonably assume its cult guy as the other neutral ( Not sure if mafia or neutral will fake claim survivor. Mafia will fear a policy lynch?, and the other neutral would get insta lynched if one of the other neutrals die, and or is cult which they know a survivor will cc them and just win)
3) rest should be common sense... so i am not going to explain....

cons:
1) people have no honor and will policy lynch the survivor anyway because they are dumb.

Since Mafia's goal is to eliminate 3 non-mafia from one of the days, and survivors are non-mafia, I would certainly not lynch a survivor claim. This isn't a regular game of mafia where survivors can side with Mafia willy nilly; by merely existing, they make the mafia wincon harder, and are thus more natural town allies.

[MattZed]

Also, there can be only one true Zed.

-vote MiniZed

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Also, there can be only one true Zed.

-vote MiniZed

I am the only person online, and you rvs him over me, why?

It looks like you planned on rvs'ing him because of your names regardless of how the game started before you got online, and you could care less of finding out information.

[MattZed]

I am the only person online, and you rvs him over me, why?

It looks like you planned on rvs'ing him because of your names regardless of how the game started before you got online, and you could care less of finding out information.

If random voting only worked by voting people who were online, it wouldn't be readable.

-vote Yukitaka Oni

Nice try, Jester. ;)

[Yukitaka Oni]

If random voting only worked by voting people who were online, it wouldn't be readable.

-vote Yukitaka Oni

Nice try, Jester. ;)

Wut are you doin' my scum buddy?

[MattZed]

Wut are you doin' my scum buddy?

Oh, just making sure the plebs don't suspect us.

How are you gonna make it through D1?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Wut are you doin' my scum buddy?

Welcome [player X], you are a Malicious Savior and are 3p.

During the night, you may attempt to restore a player's HP. If you successfully restore a player's HP and live to see Mafia win, you win. you know who is Mafia at the start of the game.

Possible results:
You have successfully restored a player's HP OR You have not successfully restored a player's HP.

Are you seriously going to fucking breadcrumb when there are roles like this?

Guess what the traitor did last game, I fucking did the same thing on my first post. If at any point a survivor claims, I am only voting you.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

If random voting only worked by voting people who were online, it wouldn't be readable.

-vote Yukitaka Oni

Nice try, Jester. ;)

I commented on your opening posts

I had an interaction with titus

Frog tried to buddy me


..and this is what you come up with? Do you have any thoughts on any of those 3 points. I guess you sort of covered the first point here in some way? Maybe touch on titus or frog.

[MattZed]

I commented on your opening posts

I had an interaction with titus

Frog tried to buddy me


..and this is what you come up with? Do you have any thoughts on any of those 3 points. I guess you sort of covered the first point here in some way? Maybe touch on titus or frog.

Duckk, if you wanna powerwolf and take town leadership, you're going to have to be less pedantic. Trying to draw meaningful conclusions from the first 50 post isn't pro-town, it's just fantasy.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

zzzz only can lynch from group 1 today.... and the one person i wanted to pressure before the game started is now immune, fan fucking tastic.

Luckily, other than that I don't really see any other player in that group as someone who would succumb to a day 1 lynch as any alignment anyway.

SuperJack said he was looking to playing with frog for the first time in a long time, and with myself. I assume he will be more active this game. He has strong day 2 reads from personal experience, so him being safe today will be valuable if he is town.

As for my group

yuki is hard to read and will get tunneled for stupid reasons ( not really their fault).
unknown is so inconsistent I dont know yet
eggy is an easy read
titus seems to start strong. She scumslipped or TMI'ed about 10+ times I counted in her last game. I wish she was in group 2 as she is easier to read on day 2.
me - quack quack

[Titus]

@duck, if I am so easy to read why wait until day 2?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

@duck, if I am so easy to read why wait until day 2?

You aren't an easy day 1 read. Your play when you replaced in Overwatch was very strong from the start, and I liked your opening in the last game. It was not until very late day1? and early day 2 where I picked up on you as mafia. I would rather be able to pressure prince and lynch him if he isnt town and be able to assess you tomorrow on a day where I should have a good indication of your alignment.

However if you wish to scrap today, I got a wicked beak attack.

[Yukitaka Oni]

You aren't an easy day 1 read. Your play when you replaced in Overwatch was very strong from the start, and I liked your opening in the last game. It was not until very late day1? and early day 2 where I picked up on you as mafia. I would rather be able to pressure prince and lynch him if he isnt town and be able to assess you tomorrow on a day where I should have a good indication of your alignment.

However if you wish to scrap today, I got a wicked beak attack.

Lynch because too hard to read day 1? Not a good reason

[Frog]

@duck, if I am so easy to read why wait until day 2?

You're not easy to read. I know a couple of your playstyles, what you're doing now is new to me.

[Titus]

I will expect when people to show up for you to be reading my posts with a fine toothed beak. If you don't, then we scrap.

Oh and survivors and millers should claim.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I will expect when people to show up for you to be reading my posts with a fine toothed beak. If you don't, then we scrap.

Oh and survivors and millers should claim.

You say that, but you misread my post and incorrectly commented on it in your first post? Uncharacteristically sloppy from you, especially with very little to get tripped up on.

Also, I like your continuation of the idea of survivor/miller claiming, however I think if miller claims they should potentially claim enabler to force scum to mess up a fake claim.

[Titus]

You say that, but you misread my post and incorrectly commented on it in your first post? Uncharacteristically sloppy from you, especially with very little to get tripped up on.

Also, I like your continuation of the idea of survivor/miller claiming, however I think if miller claims they should potentially claim enabler to force scum to mess up a fake claim.

How did I misread your post?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

How did I misread your post?

titus seems to start strong. She scumslipped or TMI'ed about 10+ times I counted in her last game. I wish she was in group 2 as she is easier to read on day 2.

@duck, if I am so easy to read why wait until day 2?

Unless it was my wording that confused you. I mentioned you start strong (NAI), and that I wish you were in group 2 because you are easier to read on day 2, and that is when group 2 is able to be lynched.

[Frog]

Unless it was my wording that confused you. I mentioned you start strong (NAI), and that I wish you were in group 2 because you are easier to read on day 2, and that is when group 2 is able to be lynched.

Sup duck. Let's be Mason's and GOAT it up

[Frog]

I will expect when people to show up for you to be reading my posts with a fine toothed beak. If you don't, then we scrap.

Oh and survivors and millers should claim.

Agreed to the last point.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

OH, if there is an executioner, THEY ARE ALWAYS IN GROUP 1.

I spent like 20 fucking hours last game trying to find out what the fuck I was supposed to do with this set up ( I was completely wrong).

What I learned in the end, was it is designed so there can not be a day 1 victory. This means, since we are FORCED into a group 1 lynch, the exe can not just insta win, so if there is one, they are almost certainly in my group.

[Frog]

About to take off - I don't see wifi...

May be AFK for like 24 hours (16 hour flight + driving after)

Sheep my reads for EOD

[Frog]

Meant to quote your survivor post

[Frog]

Duck >Rand town

[Yukitaka Oni]

What to do what to do....what a man gonna do.....(evil scheme theme) v)x.o)^ v(o.o(v

[Yukitaka Oni]

Easy there mate, If you gonna focus on one group, wait for all of'em to show up first v)o.o)> v(o.o(v

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

@yuki do you have any reads on the game yet?

[Yukitaka Oni]

@yuki do you have any reads on the game yet?

23:30 PM
Nope. Sleep instead

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

23:30 PM
Nope. Sleep instead

Meh, I'll join you.

We shall continue this another time mattzed, thanks for being awake.

I may be busy, but if the weather continues, my game will probably be canceled and I will be more active. Tootles.

[MattZed]

And as Duckk departs, I'll note for those reading the thread later that my vote against Duckk is not random.

Duckk's train of thought evades logic and common sense. The evidence to support his theory simply doesn't exist, and the fact that he continues to push his theory makes me wonder "is Duckk actually reading this game?" The only way I can see him not realizing his theory is bad is if he doesn't actually care.

And there's the flaw. Town should be concerned about how accurate their reads are. They may have faulty reasoning at times or hunches they can't explain, but their reads should follow plainly from their reasoning. Duckk's doesn't, and it doesn't bother him. I haven't ruled out that he's town simply trying to "stir the pot" before the real stage of the game begins, but he certainly has a lot of explaining to do, and I want to hear it when he gets back.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

And as Duckk departs, I'll note for those reading the thread later that my vote against Duckk is not random.

Duckk's train of thought evades logic and common sense. The evidence to support his theory simply doesn't exist, and the fact that he continues to push his theory makes me wonder "is Duckk actually reading this game?" The only way I can see him not realizing his theory is bad is if he doesn't actually care.

And there's the flaw. Town should be concerned about how accurate their reads are. They may have faulty reasoning at times or hunches they can't explain, but their reads should follow plainly from their reasoning. Duckk's doesn't, and it doesn't bother him. I haven't ruled out that he's town simply trying to "stir the pot" before the real stage of the game begins, but he certainly has a lot of explaining to do, and I want to hear it when he gets back.

Evades logic? You can disagree with the read, but it is pretty logical that him calling you scum buddies is a hidden scum sifting to his team.

I am not continuing to push the theory, I am trying to explain it to you. My next yuki post was asking him for his reads.

I care about every game unless I'm neutral killing, if you think I'm posting when I'm very busy as serial killer then fire away.

No shit you haven't ruled out I am town because guess what!!

How the fuck do my reads not follow from my reasoning....
Frog - buddying me , scum lean
Titus - misread post 1, scum lean
Mz - calls me mafia not considering neutral - neutral lean
Yuki - breadcrumb cult - neutral lean.

Obviously wrong on one of yuki/mz but to say you can't follow my logic into reads is a fucking joke. Let's play which bright star will misrepresent duck next

Fuck posting on phones

[Frog]

I'm getting drunk as fuck

Flying like fucj

Follow me here:

Notes on gane: Matt zed I'd call an obv scum on my for objective perspective - slmething Calix used to do like nuts (see that gane where I was 3P and caught her within pg1 and saved her, lol.)

But yeah I'm straight town - MS is exactly the same with that reakext

Duck is pure as fucj. In no world is dicker ever not town. Ever. It's fucing obv.


Titus not being head butting is weird as fuck for me but I like it. I don't think it's alignment I dative at all - I e been therlyfh phases of May where my gane Ganges and this feels pro fir Titus. Ike I'm ducking psyched to see this now. Not up mention our new fans clog. Up with that ace attorney.

I gave a ridiculous TK foil but heh I'll say it for shots and jiggles - no no, it's too dumb, Ir can't be. Fuck that Anys.


I'm devil as fuck. I don't know who to vote but OH yEaA$ MZ

-1v]Marrt Zaed -1/.Staa

[Frog]

I'm getting drunk as fuck

Flying like fucj

Follow me here:

Notes on gane: Matt zed I'd call an obv scum on my for objective perspective - slmething Calix used to do like nuts (see that gane where I was 3P and caught her within pg1 and saved her, lol.)

But yeah I'm straight town - MS is exactly the same with that reakext

Duck is pure as fucj. In no world is dicker ever not town. Ever. It's fucing obv.


Titus not being head butting is weird as fuck for me but I like it. I don't think it's alignment I dative at all - I e been therlyfh phases of May where my gane Ganges and this feels pro fir Titus. Ike I'm ducking psyched to see this now. Not up mention our new fans clog. Up with that ace attorney.

I gave a ridiculous TK foil but heh I'll say it for shots and jiggles - no no, it's too dumb, Ir can't be. Fuck that Anys.


I'm devil as fuck. I don't know who to vote but OH yEaA$ MZ

-1v]Marrt Zaed -1/.Staa

Oh I guess I posted here. Lol. Wtf.

[Frog]

I justvtetwevit - I'm sorry I'll proof read this with ehidz

[Frog]

LateeX not kiw

[Orpz]

LateeX not kiw

An expression of approval for LaTeX formatting.

[Frog]

I'm prob at my drunkest normally in ganes at the lament

I'm here- will try to @ everyone her but give nectar to : look up the page, get the post, select the people etc

[Frog]

2 users browsing - spooky ghost come out

[Frog]

This bathroom on the plane is sick

[Frog]

Wrong chat - this is the MZ obv scum game? Yeah

Lol - I want to watch you guys play with me here. But tvh Torus is here and like I can't read her at all - it's both awesome and troubling - but IDGAF - Titus goat either alignment

[SuperJack]

I've only just woke up, but I'm going to catch up once I'm not naked and have got ready. But what I've seen, Duck and Mz fight each other, little bit of fluff from yuki. Titus popped in and Frog is drinking on a plane.

@Frog try not to talk about, and link, other games you are playing xD you may end up accidently break a rule being drunk =)

[Yukitaka Oni]

I've only just woke up, but I'm going to catch up once I'm not naked and have got ready. But what I've seen, Duck and Mz fight each other, little bit of fluff from yuki. Titus popped in and Frog is drinking on a plane.

@Frog try not to talk about, and link, other games you are playing xD you may end up accidently break a rule being drunk =)

v)x.o)> v(o.o(v kept you waiting huh?

[Frog]

Test

[MiniZed]

Duck is probably town, I don't see why his play indicates his scum behaviour although it has been a long time.

I think you jumped to the conclusion about MattZed. The vote on me probably does not have as much thought with it as you may assume, Duck. Other then that MattZed seems to be scum-hunting normally, and he did state why he thought you were scum>neutral. They know who their teammates are.

FROG is all over the place. Haven't commented much yet because I have just woken but 1 second.

[MiniZed]

Given that I know I'm town, this leaves 1 scum and 1 Neutral between Duck Yuki Eggy and Titus. Yuki's jokes seemed weird as if he was already trying to state that he was town.

-vote YukitakaOni

[MiniZed]

Titus seems to be more cautious with the few posts they've said. FROG seems to be drunk.