Because I kept pm him annoying questions
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When we talked about pubs, we are talking about us.
When they talked about pubs, they exclude themselves.
They say only bad players want to modify citizens, and they do not satisfy bad players.
Are we bad players? We include bad players, but that is just a part of us.
---They put veteran, mayor, allowed jester to visit for nothing, and they regretted and say those things are brainless.
for example you didnt give me access to deadchat just to tease me, you know i'd not cheat, and if i wanted to blocking dead chat can't stop anyway
also you never answered my pms
Last edited by Apache; May 8th, 2014 at 12:13 PM. Reason: added second line
If you want hostile hosting I can give you hostile hosting
lol did you still not come over the last mfm slaol
I didn't answer most PMs unless they were questions about mechanics/roles.
And I didn't prevent you deadchat access to tease you. You attempted to make a way to communicate after death. Even if it was a joke, I didn't want to take a chance of you using it to transfer information from dead chat to living players. Blocking dead chat doesn't prevent you from cheating, no, but it does prevent you from learning things that you didn't already know and THEN cheating.
If anyone was hostile in the situation, it was the person threatening to cheat.
Woo, thanks for that award! I'll be looking forward to playing the next FM game. 8D
thank you
long live brodin
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lol how was i hostile i never threatened that, i just showed you that you allowing them to turn off inv mode for some reason could allow them cheating and even if you would have seen them making it up they wouldnt even break a rule, nowhere it said dead ppl cant do that
and i didnt even make an effective way, if i wanted i wouldve set it up so i can give a binary value every hour, i read is 1 and i dont read is 0 then for letter 0-25 i would need 5 hours for a letter that's more than 14 letters a day+night
@slaol: i didnt mean day chat
Using a communication method not intended by the host is considered under Rule #1, see: "ect." This isn't law, I'm not going to add 100 clauses to every single rule to cover every single method of cheating.
Also, I know you were showing me that it could have been used for cheating. That's why I showed you that if they had made that code, they would have also been barred from dead chat and I would have forced invisible on their account.
If you don't think that this would be cheating, then you must also think using Lag Chat in sc2mafia is a legitimate strategy.
Apache that's fucking garbage. If you're going to accuse me of trying to cheat, come out and say it.
I said it in the grave yard and I'll say it here. If I wanted to cheat I'd do it without being obvious. Shame on you for accusing someone of that, even in jest, and shame on you for implying the mods would be careless enough to allow cheating to occur right under their noses.
ofc it's cheating
lol WHERE did i accuse you. i didnt even mention you. i didnt read dead chat because i dont have access
and i never thought someone would really abuse it anyway lol
i also didnt imply anything about host, really i dont see what i did wrong
and if at all i was suspected/accused of cheating
no one did anything wrong, everyone calm yer tits.
Apache, some advice from me would be not to even hint about a method of cheating during a game. If you had concerns, you should've PM'd me about them.
I was Greenland, and you continually brought up the idea that I was communicating to the rest of the mafia by the fact that invisible was off + I was visiting the thread. And I only turned it off after Odin explicitly gave permission in dead chat to do so, I didn't just turn it off when I got there.
Congrats on the MVP Orpz! And congrats to all those awarded/mentioned by the hosts! GG. Looking forward to FM 22!
Ah cheating. Very easy!
Disguised in SC2Mafia? Pause the game!
Disguised in FMs? Camp your COM account at the day thread with invisible mode off!
Apache lacked tact by publicly implying that Greenland is a cheat and hosts are incompetent. Valid concerns but not communicated properly.
Congrats to Crypt and Bunny for a game well hosted.
Oh and congrats to winners too.
again, i didnt imply anything
implied? not exactly
suggested an hihgly unlikely idea about something? yes
you more or less, accused them of cheating or having a means of cheating by abusing invisi mode
i mean really the best someone might gleam from it is timeframe they are on and then maybe com
basicly what nick said, you got up about them using it as possible means of cheating (like almost every game), host merly was showing you he had everything under control. you really need to learn to not get so up about things and ust let it take its course. if someone was going to put in the effort or something like that to send a message, then they really have nothing. Plus they would have to set it up in daychat (which would be knwon to everyone), or in night chat (where host would know and then say no to). if they set it up outside of game, then OGC and modkill.
Like cirtus said, its 10 times easier to cheat by other means (communicate elsewhere) then to do something elaborate as that.
people complain about the encryptions and tailors and all that stuff, something that host put in as possiblities. complaining about someone cheating in a really hard to do manner w/o host knowing. Wait until it happens b4 you complain.
the only thing i complained about is that dead ppl can turn off invisible mode because it could be used for cheating. then i showed you how.
now stop the wining
Greenland said nothing about his online/offline status in mafia chat, Host would of pointed that out if the online status meant something.
Spoiler : Game History :
i know...
Therefore, host would logically know if it's used as a means for cheating, and he knew what he was doing when he said it wasn't lmao
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So next is FM Avatar by Slaol and Gerik?
Apache is one angry chopper.
Indolent.756, EU server.
Indolent.628, NA server.
i'm actually not angry at all
if they'd stop accusing me^^
aight er1 stfu, no 1 cheated nor nuttin. apache ain't sayn greeny was cheatn, he just b sayn dat he cud uz dat way 2 b cheatn.
apache demonstr8d how it cud b dun, sy demonstr8d wat ido if sum1 cheatn.
case closed
-cryptonic
co-head vigilante
I am mad about the cheating
I think if there is a cheating like that, it is neglectable.
Suppose you know there is a mafia disguiser and able to notice it.
How will you convince everyone without outrageously say I knew it because I cheat?
How will others react to you, if you suddenly point finger at a disguiser without analysis?
It is still a fairsqaure game of whether disguiser would be able to mimic the previous owner's behavior and get itself out of it.
The cheating just doesn't matter.
Samething to self-confirmable code.
When we talked about pubs, we are talking about us.
When they talked about pubs, they exclude themselves.
They say only bad players want to modify citizens, and they do not satisfy bad players.
Are we bad players? We include bad players, but that is just a part of us.
---They put veteran, mayor, allowed jester to visit for nothing, and they regretted and say those things are brainless.
When we talked about pubs, we are talking about us.
When they talked about pubs, they exclude themselves.
They say only bad players want to modify citizens, and they do not satisfy bad players.
Are we bad players? We include bad players, but that is just a part of us.
---They put veteran, mayor, allowed jester to visit for nothing, and they regretted and say those things are brainless.
so when is 22 coming out?
FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
FM XXI: USA (Escort)
FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)
Sometime after next mfm