S-FM 54: Second Chances

[creedkingsx]

ok thank you. i missed that sorry.

at the plus side we are all alive

It's the first time the role has ever been played, so it's to be expected unless you read through the setup very thoroughly. xD

[Brendan]

lol hi, nothing happened to me. The crier message was pro.

[Cryptonic]

i think i know who the crier is huehuehue =]

anyways, mafia may have sent a jailed mafia member for the kill, not knowing their are jailed, or;
mafia attacked jailed target (in which case, he needs to step forward and to be checked by invest/sheriff to clear himself), or;
mafia attacked someone who was healed (in which case, he needs to step forward and if a doctor DIDN'T heal the person, he must step forward and we lynch the person).

I was not attacked last night. Maybe the Joker was, if he is immune to attacks.
Is Joker immune to attacks?
Am I a bad person by being to lazy to look myself?

[creedkingsx]

Is Joker immune to attacks?
Am I a bad person by being to lazy to look myself?

No and yes

[Fajer]

yeah. i did read it but. . . days pasts and homework lasts.

interesting, i want to hear from damus what he has to say.
and if cryptonic doesent mind i'd like to know who he injected.

[Cryptonic]

if my target wishes, s/he can tell you s/he was juiced.
Other than that, i will not make my target a target for scum tonight by indicating i juiced them because i am going to be juicing him again and don't want to waste my night action. also, it may reveal his/her role tomorrow morning if i tell you now.

however, if s/he wishes to come out today, that is fine with me. if this is the case, i may or may not juice them again tonight.

[RLVG]

i think i know who the crier is huehuehue =]

I think I know who too.

anyways, mafia may have sent a jailed mafia member for the kill, not knowing their are jailed, or;
mafia attacked jailed target (in which case, he needs to step forward and to be checked by invest/sheriff to clear himself), or;
mafia attacked someone who was healed (in which case, he needs to step forward and if a doctor DIDN'T heal the person, he must step forward and we lynch the person).[/COLOR]

If there's a Jailor, I'd recommend not having him reveal itself but the victim should reveal being jailed.
The same goes for a doctor revealing himself by saying who he healed, no reveals.

interesting, i want to hear from damus what he has to say.

Good point. There's a 75% chance to lynch Damus because of the Joker, we can at least receive a clue from him before he passes on.

The other 25%? Very important role, or if the Joker hits two scum instead.

[Cryptonic]

i said the doctor should reveal only if someone states being healed but actually wasn't healed. then it's just scum lying to save the jailed target.

[RLVG]

i said the doctor should reveal only if someone states being healed but actually wasn't healed. then it's just scum lying to save the jailed target.

That makes sense, but I don't see scum slip that easy with claiming a heal. It's better if they don't think about it.

[Cryptonic]

i stated it because i'd rather not trade a doctor for a scum.
that's like trading a queen for a bishop

[RLVG]

lol hi, nothing happened to me. The crier message was pro.

I hope that's not the only thing you're going to say.

[Cryptonic]

if you want to be juiced tonight, you need to use the spy to PM me a role.
otherwise, i will most likely target the same person tonight, or the crier for luls

[creedkingsx]

the crier for luls

If you are curious, if Crier gets juiced, he can select any town role's action and utilize it for the night.

[Cryptonic]

If you are curious, if Crier gets juiced, he can select any town role's action and utilize it for the night.

oh nice. even jailor?

[Cryptonic]

oh nice. even jailor?

fix'd

[creedkingsx]

oh nice. even jailor?

Well it'd just be using a one shot gun, in that case. xD

[Cryptonic]

If a Bus Driver swaps Nurse with Player A, and Nurse targets player A, does the Nurse get 2 injections the next night?

[Fajer]

i wont be active untill 17-19 hours (sweden, and school) so dont judge me for being silent.

brendan and roflcopter still seems bit scheemy to me so i demand a deasent explanation.

[Cryptonic]

no, appleypie is the scum.
let's pressure him for a role today.

-vote AppleyNO

[creedkingsx]

If a Bus Driver swaps Nurse with Player A, and Nurse targets player A, does the Nurse get 2 injections the next night?

No. Nurse cannot inject themselves through any set of circumstances.

[TheDarkestLight]

Ok then, the no kill is susp, yet it benefits us because that gives our investigative roles -not lookout/detect- and a ML -if we have one- to gain more leads and confirmed town. I will not vote to lynch until atleast 75% of us have posted due to info that might reveal itself after a rush lynch and makes our lynch wrong.

Suspect list:
Brendan: Posting yet not doing anything useful, if he were a Wifoming PR then he is avoiding the Mafia, but definately not the town, and if Crypt really is Nurse then he is 100% not a Jester.
Fatalis/RLVG: Only if Brendan is Mafia, if Brendan is not Mafia you can remove them from the list of Mafia, one of them might be the Joker, but MOST LIKELY not Mafia. Yet if Brendan is Mafia, then one or two is MOST LIKELY Mafia.

[AppleyNO]

Im seriously sorry. I will not be able to add anything for a little while. Wanted to let everyone know I was attacked last night.

[RLVG]

no, appleypie is the scum.
let's pressure him for a role today.

-vote AppleyNO

Why is he scum? Did you juice him?
Why lynch him instead of Damus? (Joker)

If you are curious, if Crier gets juiced, he can select any town role's action and utilize it for the night.

What happens if X get Juiced?
Jailor / Interrogator?
Bus Driver?
Joker?
Actress?
Spy?
Citizen?

[RLVG]

Wanted to let everyone know I was attacked last night.

That's interesting. Healed?

[creedkingsx]

What happens if X get Juiced?
Jailor / Interrogator?
Bus Driver?
Joker?
Actress?
Spy?
Citizen?

They don't lose a charge for an execution the following night.

Can bus 2 sets of people.

They can choose to call out 2 targets, still results in 2 immune-piercing kills, or get 3 non-immune piercing kills.

If killed the following day or night post injection, can choose the role they will appear as.

Invulnerability for one night.

Nothing.

[RLVG]

Spy, come out from your basement.

I request the Nurse to heal the Spy non-stop to make him invulnerable, since the Nurse too is invulnerable we got a pair of invulnerables.

[RLVG]

Spy, come out from your basement.

I request the Nurse to juice the Spy non-stop to make him invulnerable, since the Nurse too is invulnerable we got a pair of invulnerables.

Fixed the obvious typo.

[creedkingsx]

Chinging Citizen, actually. With 3, that would be waaayyy too OP, potentially.

[RLVG]

Spy, come out from your basement.

I request the Nurse to heal the Spy non-stop to make him invulnerable, since the Nurse too is invulnerable we got a pair of invulnerables.

That is, if the Nurse agrees to this action first.

... Unreliable neutrals.

[Jim]

Does the jokey get to pick who killed.
Is there a possibility that Damus can still die form the Joker even if he isn't lynched today.

[RLVG]

Is there a possibility that Damus can still die form the Joker even if he isn't lynched today.[/COLOR]

If that's the case, why even bother with the 1<->2 kills deal with the role?

[Jim]

If that's the case, why even bother with the 1<->2 kills deal with the role?

Seems like the Joker would troll and kill Damus anyway and another person.

[creedkingsx]

Does the jokey get to pick who killed.

Is there a possibility that Damus can still die form the Joker even if he isn't lynched today.

Yes and yes.

Joker doesn't have to kill Damus, but he can.

[Damus_Graves]

-vote Brendan

Get it done.

We can lynch him or we can lynch RLVG/Fajer

One of them is scum

[Espozito]

Versions of why there was no mafia kill:
1. Mafia member has been jailed
2. Jailed person has been attacked
3. Attacked person has been healed (AppleyNO claimed)
4. Escort blocked the attacker
5. ULTIMATE VERSION: Drug Dealer made Appley think he was attacked for us to concentrate on him and for mafia to get a role to fake up when it is reveal time!.. Crazeeeeee...


Appley appearing for 1 post and claiming being attacked, then disappearing is a little weird for me, but that is understandable as I have not much time too.

Nothing happened to me last night though I made a big LW, now have to erase it and make a new one XD

Role list version for now:

Crier
Doctor / Escort (depenging on what really happened last night)
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

Suggestion about mafians

Godfather
Drug Dealer (this is ultimate role that has many strategies to help mafia)
Consig / Framer / Actress

As for last Mafian, Mafioso would be too underpowered for mafia, they need one more PR, seems like no Interrogator here cause noone was jailed; no consort either. That leaves Consigliere (helpful. But I will only believe in his presence if the next night mafia hits town PR), Framer (If there is Framer then one of town PRs is totally Sheriff), Actress (possible to mess up everything, since Joker has that chance to hit mafia).


Also, I'll repeat myself: There is no freaking way i'm putting Damus_Graves in /vote tag. I'd rather save veteran town than kill him to save 2 random people, considering the possibility for Joker to hit mafia members.
I also think that if Joker strikes, we will have more clues according to Graveyard (forever alone is lol). We will see more confirmed roles and will be able to discuss using it.

[Espozito]

-vote Brendan

Get it done.

We can lynch him or we can lynch RLVG/Fajer

One of them is scum

Something is wrong. RLVG doesn't act with Brendan, he spoke with him. That means that either RLVG is town and Brendan is scum or RLVG is scum and Brendan is juat wifoming his style again. But this has to be done

-vote Brendan

[Jim]

-vote Damus_Graves

I don't think he is scum per say but our choice is lynch him OR the Joker can kill him at night anyway plus another town.

[Damus_Graves]

-vote Damus_Graves

I don't think he is scum per say but our choice is lynch him OR the Joker can kill him at night anyway plus another town.

You slow ass motherfucka

[Espozito]

-vote Damus_Graves

I don't think he is scum per say but our choice is lynch him OR the Joker can kill him at night anyway plus another town.

According we possibly have a Doctor, I don't think that the Joker will risk attacking Damus. Don't follow this madman!

[Brendan]

-vote Damus_Graves

i dont like u

[Espozito]

-vote Damus_Graves

I don't think he is scum per say but our choice is lynch him OR the Joker can kill him at night anyway plus another town.

Let me explain.
Today we have no clues about whom we can really trust. Everyone's FoS is full of players.
We lynch Damus, he appears as some Town role but that will not help us much as we will lose 1 important player.
If we don't lynch Damus, Joker will attack 2 persons with 30% or so hitting Mafia member.
If we have a Doc, then tomorrow we will have from 2 to 3 kills (mafia kill), wich will reveal more roles for us and it will be 10 players: 6v3v1 or 7v2v1 or even 8v1v1 if Joker is so lucky to hit 2 mafs. Dude, use the logic. I would rather kill 2 people by myself to clear their roles (not a Joker claim, don't start it pls), but not Damus.

[Damus_Graves]

Let me explain.
Today we have no clues about whom we can really trust. Everyone's FoS is full of players.
We lynch Damus, he appears as some Town role but that will not help us much as we will lose 1 important player.
If we don't lynch Damus, Joker will attack 2 persons with 30% or so hitting Mafia member.
If we have a Doc, then tomorrow we will have from 2 to 3 kills (mafia kill), wich will reveal more roles for us and it will be 10 players: 6v3v1 or 7v2v1 or even 8v1v1 if Joker is so lucky to hit 2 mafs. Dude, use the logic. I would rather kill 2 people by myself to clear their roles (not a Joker claim, don't start it pls), but not Damus.

Brendan/RLVG/Fajer/Fatalis


Two of them are scum

[Espozito]

Brendan
Frostbyte
Roflcopter
Slaol
TheDarkestLight

Need to hear more from these guys.

[Jim]

Esponzito you understand that the Joker picks who he wants to kill so he WILL KILL THE MOST TOWN PEOPLE, it is obvious me and Damus gonna die cus I am proven town and he wanted Damus dead in the first place because he put him on the list. Might as well save me.

[Espozito]

Esponzito you understand that the Joker picks who he wants to kill so he WILL KILL THE MOST TOWN PEOPLE, it is obvious me and Damus gonna die cus I am proven town and he wanted Damus dead in the first place because he put him on the list. Might as well save me.

Or maybe Joker will always use Damus as his target knowing town will hardly lynch him, wich will provide 2 kills for him. Also we have a Doc to protect him in that case.
I've already stated my point of view. We don't lose much even if Joker kills 2 towns. That will give us role clues.

[Espozito]

Alright, I have to leave now.
But if I see Damus being lynched when I get back, the guilty voters shoul leave the town as I'll try to make everything possible to kill them. No offense, but you don't get the easy strategy, as I can see.

[Jim]

Or maybe Joker will always use Damus as his target knowing town will hardly lynch him, wich will provide 2 kills for him. Also we have a Doc to protect him in that case.
I've already stated my point of view. We don't lose much even if Joker kills 2 towns. That will give us role clues.

Your point was that we won't lose much because there is a 33% chance it will be scum, but that is only if it is random.
The Joker will pick the obvious town leader (me) and most likely kill Damus anyway so your point seems scummy to me because you know he wouldn't go after mafia and town only.

[Jim]

Does the Jokey pierce night immunity and doctor heal or is that only when getting buff from nurse?

[Jim]

Does the Jokey pierce night immunity and doctor heal or is that only when getting buff from nurse?

Lol I keep saying Jokey, you should probably change his role name.

[creedkingsx]

Does the Jokey pierce night immunity and doctor heal or is that only when getting buff from nurse?

Pierces regular night immunity and doctor heals. Does not pierce a bodyguard's protection or a double heal.