Mafia's dying

[Auckmid]

Don't mean to be all doom and gloom, but pre-ranked games, back when the Mafia community was united, Mafia was around the 7 or 8 mark for top played arcade games on battlenet. After ranked games were released, Mafia has fallen all the way down to spot #60. Is there some other reason why Mafia has made the big desent that I don't know about, or is it because of the divided community which came with Ranked games? If it is the later, what should happen over Ranked games?

[Damus_Graves]

Its the ranked games.

[Xen]

Its the ranked games.

This is true. Ranked is killing Mafia. =\

[MoDTassadar]

It's all the trolls and game throwers IMAO

[Damus_Graves]

It's all the trolls and game throwers IMAO

Nah. That was happening b4. the only new variable is ranked mode.

[Unentschieden]

Ranked mode breaks up the queues. People wait longer and see less likeminded players.

[Voss]

as much as i like ranked, i think it should be scrapped. have new roles come out. that's better.

[Auckmid]

as much as i like ranked, i think it should be scrapped. have new roles come out. that's better.

That's one of the main points of the thread. I like ranked a lot, but it's killing Mafia.

[Xen]

as much as i like ranked, i think it should be scrapped. have new roles come out. that's better.

Agree. +1

[Rocshi]

I think the whole "it got taken down and started over from the bottom" has something to do with it as well.

But it does split up queue, I agree.

[Fatalis]

Agreed, mafia is losing it's reputation. Lately both ranked and custom have a much longer time than before.

[creedkingsx]

It is still top 10 on EU, apparently. So the Ranked part of it shouldn't be the problem.

[Fatalis]

It is still top 10 on EU, apparently. So the Ranked part of it shouldn't be the problem.

Nooooooo

[J]

It is still top 10 on EU, apparently. So the Ranked part of it shouldn't be the problem.

It's not in the top 10 for EU anymore

[Raptorblaze]

I will go along with fighting to remove ranked..... if you guys agree to a banned custom hosts list >.>

[Damus_Graves]

I will go along with fighting to remove ranked..... if you guys agree to a banned custom hosts list >.>

I can go along with it, the only reason i like ranked now is more people i know are playing it. and im not dying night one for my name

[MissingNo]

I will go along with fighting to remove ranked..... if you guys agree to a banned custom hosts list >.>

How about yall just ban more people instead of putting people on watch list which does nothing.

[Damus_Graves]

How about yall just ban more people instead of putting people on watch list which does nothing.

This sounds like you are on the Watch List

[MissingNo]

This sounds like you are on the Watch List

What? How would that make any sense? No, I am not and if I was then why would i encourage taking watch list and up to ban list status?

[Lazers]

Who cares? Less 0 point scrubbies joining Mafia

[Fatalis]

What about adding a *poll* for the saves, so it's either the ranked saves or the one made by the host, the most voted save will get used?

[Damus_Graves]

What about adding a *poll* for the saves, so it's either the ranked saves or the one made by the host, the most voted save will get used?

I would prefer vote-able pre-set saves.

[Fatalis]

I would prefer vote-able pre-set saves.

Could work too, but good creative custom sets will not ever get used.

[Damus_Graves]

Could work too, but good creative custom sets will not ever get used.

yeah but then you get that ONE guy that manages to call a repick on the host and put his own up and its:

14 sk
1 citizen


-.-

[Jim]

I like how everyone is saying "Mafia is changed" has only been here like 3-4 months, stick around and learn that we get bumped off the top 10 every one in a while, for the longest time we were stuck at like 13.

[Damus_Graves]

I like how everyone is saying "Mafia is changed" has only been here like 3-4 months, stick around and learn that we get bumped off the top 10 every one in a while, for the longest time we were stuck at like 13.

^

I was on sc2 during that time.

[Jim]

^

I was on sc2 during that time.

Cool story bro, so you have been here 5 months?

[Ash]

i've been here for more than a year...

anyways, i think DR should release all trolls/prisoners in his prison (Kickvote/ban list people etc) and give them all a troll day, or a troll week.

Thus, the hours played increases again.

[Jim]

i've been here for more than a year...

anyways, i think DR should release all trolls/prisoners in his prison (Kickvote/ban list people etc) and give them all a troll day, or a troll week.

Thus, the hours played increases again.

Once a week or every 2 week troll days, trolls get mods and mods get banned, o wait that April fools day, then just every two weeks nobody banned for a day.

[maccabbe]

Can two different maps edit the same bank file? If so why not just have two maps for ranked and unranked. It seems like it would be pretty easy and the splitting of players would be worth the benefit of letting sc2 handle matchmaking.

[creedkingsx]

Can two different maps edit the same bank file? If so why not just have two maps for ranked and unranked. It seems like it would be pretty easy and the splitting of players would be worth the benefit of letting sc2 handle matchmaking.

That would have the exact same effect except splitting the popularity to 2 different maps. Ranked is still on the same map just a different mode.

[Jim]

well then seems like reg mafia would go down the drain because in ranked you get double the points, also lots of people will join who are gonna get auto kicked because of Ranked's strict rules.

[Xen]

Just make me the official setup host. All problems solved. My saves are perfect.

[kyle1234513]

i suggested a while ago that a "ranked or custom" selection be smacked in front of every1 when a mafia game starts from lobby to game set up, that intermission. and imo ranked should auto start a selection at random that is deemd fair.

alternativley if enuf ppl pick custom it would be standard play.

i agree, ranked should be scrapd so we can get more people playing again for shorter game Q's

[Dark.Revenant]

Ranked cannot possibly be solely blamed for the loss in popularity.

Case in point: EU's popularity dropped but within a small margin (7th place to 9th place or thereabouts) when the patch hit.

[Auckmid]

Ranked cannot possibly be solely blamed for the loss in popularity.

Case in point: EU's popularity dropped but within a small margin (7th place to 9th place or thereabouts) when the patch hit.

While I cannot say for certain what's going on in the different servers, there is something I'm certain about. Since release, Mafia has been an incredibly successful game, spending most of it's time on the first page, and never dropping below the upper reaches of the second page, even during the huge stint where no roles were released. Very recently, the mafia system changed so that people can choose between Ranked and Custom games. Soon after Mafia fell all the way to page 5, and is now completely unable to get any higher.

Sorry, but I don't know what else could possibly be the cause of this.

[MissingNo]

Ranked cannot possibly be solely blamed for the loss in popularity.

Case in point: EU's popularity dropped but within a small margin (7th place to 9th place or thereabouts) when the patch hit.

Doesn't really prove anything. The populations are rather different.

For example, if you raised the cost of soccer game tickets in both US and EU, the attendance to soccer games in the US would probably drop a lot while the attendance in EU would drop less.

[Dark.Revenant]

I don't exactly see how that would affect Mafia's popularity. Mafia was about equal in popularity between NA and EU and I don't see any population differences that would cause the addition of a game mode to make the map plummet.

[Damus_Graves]

I don't exactly see how that would affect Mafia's popularity. Mafia was about equal in popularity between NA and EU and I don't see any population differences that would cause the addition of a game mode to make the map plummet.

Fair point.

I assume school plays a factor maybe?

[Chane]

Fair point.

I assume school plays a factor maybe?

has it started yet?

[Xen]

I don't exactly see how that would affect Mafia's popularity. Mafia was about equal in popularity between NA and EU and I don't see any population differences that would cause the addition of a game mode to make the map plummet.

It divides the player pool. Not a good thing.

[Mugy]

It divides the player pool. Not a good thing.

Not really, since you can choose which lobby you join. If there's no one in ranked, I leave the lobby and join custom.
Also could this be possibly due to a bug? I find that the lobbies for mafia fill up a lot faster than the games around it, yet it is still falling in popularity.

[Admiral]

Ranked cannot possibly be solely blamed for the loss in popularity.

Case in point: EU's popularity dropped but within a small margin (7th place to 9th place or thereabouts) when the patch hit.

It still could. EU might just like it better, hence a less drastic drop. What works for one group, might not work for the other.

[MissingNo]

It still could. EU might just like it better, hence a less drastic drop. What works for one group, might not work for the other.

Said

[FruitNinja]

It's been declining since patch 1.5, but it's been dropping fast recently:

https://www.sc2ranks.com/map/59997/mafia

[Mugy]

It's been declining since patch 1.5, but it's been dropping fast recently:

https://www.sc2ranks.com/map/59997/mafia

Mostly due to zenolate and zero blue, but they have far from killed Mafia. They have wasted their time. Mafia is still going very strong and this community is likely going to stay together.

[AppleyNO]

It's been declining since patch 1.5, but it's been dropping fast recently:

https://www.sc2ranks.com/map/59997/mafia

Cool, thanks for the link. Does anyone else see that it stopped counting on the 7th.

7th was a league day. Where is my name?

Link is no good.

[Gingerape]

Its because of all the point banning.
DR is banning too many people and the trolls that are getting banned cant play anymore.

[EliteMarine]

Its because of all the point banning.
DR is banning too many people and the trolls that are getting banned cant play anymore.

^

Once the cheaters and gamethrowers get banned. Numbers drop.
I can just image the players who would load up, gamethrow, quit, and repeat time and time again, over and over.

[Nick]

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