S-FM 136: Sherlock Holmes

[Citrus]

Keep in mind encrypted feedback/claims need to be proven with a password when revealed

[SpiritFryer]

I'm not even mad that Shadow claimed Coroner. I can see 2 Coroners in this setup.

Forum time,

July 7th, 2014, 05:59 PM
Your first post July 8th, 2014, 01:33 AM

so 7 hours.

2 am you were still sleep and then get up and work... took 7 hours.

So you get up at 5am, and worked 4 hours.

you get up really early.

I arrive at work at 9 AM Irish time. I posted about half an hour after I arrived. What time is forum time?

[Fatalis]

I don't think we're gonna lynch anyone today

so here's my reads in case I die

MM-nopro
MM-citrus

Amn-louis
Amn-ika
Amn-slaol (jester)

Det-banshis
Det-spirit
Doc-vantas
Doc-nick
Cor-orpz
Cor-42shadow
Cit-me
Cit-pod

6 PRs might happen this game
also ika acted more like amn than MM

[powerofdeath]

I don't think we're gonna lynch anyone today

so here's my reads in case I die

MM-nopro
MM-citrus

Amn-louis
Amn-ika
Amn-slaol (jester)

Det-banshis
Det-spirit
Doc-vantas
Doc-nick
Cor-orpz
Cor-42shadow
Cit-me
Cit-pod

6 PRs might happen this game
also ika acted more like amn than MM

nopro CANNOT be a MM if spirit is detective, otherwise spirit would've been dead.

[Fatalis]

nopro CANNOT be a MM if spirit is detective, otherwise spirit would've been dead.

oh shit
well this fucked up most of my reads
since I strongly townread spirit then I suppose slaol replaces nopro's slot as MM

also someone plz tell me how this code thing work

[42shadow42]

Nope, you are wrong again citrus. We still have vantas who could have visited me.

Claiming visiting only gives other scums place to claim.

Why would two detective go to another detective when none of them are attacked. Who killed nick and most importantly, where, is necessary for the puzzle.

What if I claimed my target then vantas comes in tackles me?

No claim is good for me, national security.

Cool I'm satisfied.

-vote Slaol

I'd be pretty happy with a nopro lynch, except for how easy it is for him to confirm himself.

I'm not following this logic, can you help me out a little?

[powerofdeath]

oh shit
well this fucked up most of my reads
since I strongly townread spirit then I suppose slaol replaces nopro's slot as MM

also someone plz tell me how this code thing work

Its my first time using it too. You put any sentence in the thing, and save it with a password. It will give you a code. If you give the code and the password to anybody, they can translate it back to the sentence you wrote.

[Orpz]

pod is right

-unvote

ill be home soon

[Gyver]

Day 2 has ended with no lynch. The night will end at https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=july+9th+9pm+est

Graveyard:
1.Ika
2.Nick

Living Players:
1.Shadow42Shadow
2.Vantas
3.Slaol
4.LouisWill replaced Astrid
5.PowerofDeath
6.Oprz
7.Fatalis
8.Banshis
9.SpiritFryer
10.Citrus
11.Nopro

[Gyver]

Powerofdeath was torn in half last night.

Graveyard:
1.Ika
2.Nick
3.Powerofdeath

Living Players:
1.Shadow42Shadow
2.Noctiz replaced Vantas
3.Slaol
4.LouisWill
5.Nopro
6.Oprz
7.Fatalis
8.Banshis
9.SpiritFryer
10.Citrus

5 votes to hammer.

[louiswill]

slaj.dtmkzwjlgkzu ching

[louiswill]

well, since vantas is gone. I claim that I went to vantas night 1.

[louiswill]

I forget to post the key.

Key: board

[NoctiZ]

Hallo. Replacing in yo.

[louiswill]

Hallo. Replacing in yo.

Need anyhelp? People will soon need you to Beeeeeeeeeeeeeep*. So brace yourself.

[NoctiZ]

Hm I read about half of the thread so I don't know what exactly happened in the last day. So either someone summarize or it will take me a lot longer to get into the game.

[louiswill]

Doc Vantas / Det SpiritFryer-2/nopro, Citrus +1
Det Banshis+1
Coroner 42shadow42+2
Coroner Orpz+2
Doc Nick
EngCit ika/Fatalis -1
EngCit ika/Pod
EngCit ika/Louiswill -1

Amn 1 Slaol(Jester)
Amn 2 SpiritFryer/nopro
Amn 3 ika/Vantas/Citrus


Order of useful events:
Mass claim unintended lynch on ika shouldn't have happened
Mass claim, pressure louiswill, slaol and citrus
Banshis claim Nopro went to him
Spiritfryer claim Banshis went to Nopro
Arguements of Louiswill refuse to role claim
Citrus claim 42shadow42 stayed home
I claim EngCit
Nopro claim non-tradition
Arguements of ika's role
Arguements of lynch on slaol
Arguements of Louiswill refuse posting his visit
Arguements of Louiswill Vs Spiritfryer
Arguements of Reads and Roles

No one was lynched

The End

[louiswill]

By Products
Logic1: Nick is doctor.
Logic2: If spiritfryer and Banshis are both detective, Nopro isn't mass murderer.

Pretty much.

[NoctiZ]

Interesting, thank you.

[louiswill]

louiswill (4 [L-2]):
42shadow42, Fatalis, powerofdeath, SpiritFryer

Post voter list here for future possible usage.

Longest train of the day #348

Alright! Just woke up, I am keeping my target to myself until most of the scummy players claim their targets. This way if anyone of them visit my target, I can prove that they are not the MM.

1.Ika
2.Vantas
3.Slaol
4.Louiswill
5.PowerofDeath
6.Orpz
7.Fatalis
8.Banshis
9.Nick
10.Citrus
11.Nopro
12.SpiritFryer
13.Shadow42Shadow

Green: Town Reads
Blue: Sorta Town Reads
Light Blue: Amnesiac Reads
Orange: Scum Reads
White: Null

I prefer to keep my reasoning to myself for now and let the people I am fosing that I am onto them.

Dead peep's read.

[Slaolamander]

Why didn't we lynch louiswill?

-vote Louiswill

[The Godfather]

louiswill has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Slaol (2 [L-3]): Citrus, nopro
louiswill (5 [L-0]): 42shadow42, Fatalis, powerofdeath, SpiritFryer, Slaolamander
SpiritFryer (1 [L-4]): louiswill
nopro (1 [L-4]): Banshis

[Gyver]

Don't know why that happened


5 votes to hammer.

[SpiritFryer]

Here is my encrypted Night 2 feedback:

EnCt238851e8282d92b732638918f65f057c8989945bc38851e8282d92b732638918f+Shua0GXWwK
955TuvVO0wwL8PnmPhxip92l0R8wi5FL1F7BP7U+EfuhyMZnwn/oNo7RDj5WLSRnLoFgBX6RcIwEmS

(to be decrypted using encipher.it - the website, after I give the password.)

Hm I read about half of the thread so I don't know what exactly happened in the last day. So either someone summarize or it will take me a lot longer to get into the game.

Day 1 summary: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452575

~First half of Day 2 summary with my reads and requests to people in it: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452583

My reads list at that point in time (subject to change after enough posts are made today, etc.): https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452601

Hypothesizing on who the MMs visited N1, and what the roles list is: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452607

Doc Vantas / Det SpiritFryer-2/nopro, Citrus +1
Det Banshis+1
Coroner 42shadow42+2
Coroner Orpz+2
Doc Nick
EngCit ika/Fatalis -1
EngCit ika/Pod
EngCit ika/Louiswill -1

Amn 1 Slaol(Jester)
Amn 2 SpiritFryer/nopro
Amn 3 ika/Vantas/Citrus


Order of useful events:
Mass claim unintended lynch on ika shouldn't have happened
Mass claim, pressure louiswill, slaol and citrus
Banshis claim Nopro went to him
Spiritfryer claim Banshis went to Nopro
Arguements of Louiswill refuse to role claim
Citrus claim 42shadow42 stayed home
I claim EngCit
Nopro claim non-tradition
Arguements of ika's role
Arguements of lynch on slaol
Arguements of Louiswill refuse posting his visit
Arguements of Louiswill Vs Spiritfryer
Arguements of Reads and Roles

No one was lynched

The End

You forgot to say that 42shadow42 claimed that he stayed home BEFORE Citrus claimed Detective with feedback that 42shadow42 stayed home. This combined with the fact that Citrus was among the last few players to claim a role put him so high on my scum list.

--

Why didn't we lynch louiswill?

-vote Louiswill

louiswill has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Slaol (2 [L-3]): Citrus, nopro
louiswill (5 [L-0]): 42shadow42, Fatalis, powerofdeath, SpiritFryer, Slaolamander
SpiritFryer (1 [L-4]): louiswill
nopro (1 [L-4]): Banshis

I didn't know there were Mayors in this setup D:? That was pretty funny though.

--

I am going to sleep now. See you guys in ~7 hours.

[SpiritFryer]

Also, I am very surprised only one death occurred. If ika wasn't town then there should've been 4 MMs able to take actions last night, right?

With one death though, I doubt there were 4 MMs visiting people last night. So does this make ika town?

Good night.

[SpiritFryer]

One last thing before I go.

EVERYONE please go to encipher.it and encrypt your last night's action and feedback, and then post the encrypted text here.

slaj.dtmkzwjlgkzu ching

I forget to post the key.

Key: board

You have an encrypted message and a key? How will it be decrypted? What's the key for?

--

Now seriously, good night.

[louiswill]

You have an encrypted message and a key? How will it be decrypted? What's the key for?

Don't you think you asked a bit too early?

The message suppose to be revealed after everyone else posted their result.

Anyway, I'm an EngCit, result doesn't matter that much.

[louiswill]

Also, I am very surprised only one death occurred. If ika wasn't town then there should've been 4 MMs able to take actions last night, right?

Only slaol would target ika as amnesiac this early.
If ika is mm, then slaol is mm.
1 death means it is more likely ika is not mm and slaol is not mm neither.
So there are still 2 mm, not like what you thought outrageously.

[louiswill]

Again that means I'm the one guessed more right.

[Fatalis]

EnCt2cf715336245f1e665eaf7339ea1fd71acf9e155acf715 336245f1e665eaf73395WkvLJb/zwO
x+h8UvlOTyqPmQeVLvbZBE1s8N3e7UexrO/E=IwEmS

[42shadow42]

Feel to reveal your results anytime now orpz, here is my cipher.

EnCt2852929a7c7df989dc514b98b47c74c2183ad7e1285292 9a7c7df989dc514b98bYS2e3znqZwB
3AZ0ZvlOYHdkTN5rWKcwLbKkaFCAgs/IxmMwSsbyG4JFj2hQPtWchf34UNrktl099IwEmS

Honestly, I think I was a little hasty to go after louis.

-vote Banshis

[nopro]

EnCt293f7fbdd2705cdc4eafb1cd0ed3b1b6565a52f5a93f7f bdd2705cdc4eafb1cd0vwLD9VPvqgB
R2KwtvlMxB1DaKr+1mvhxp+TWokVsS0B4Cj3X0xlV9ulJDUhKd jQt8HK2opGtkxdmAZuFBw==IwEmS

[Orpz]

Excellent timing. I just got free.

Nick visited Orpz on night 1.

[SpiritFryer]

Don't you think you asked a bit too early?

The message suppose to be revealed after everyone else posted their result.

Anyway, I'm an EngCit, result doesn't matter that much.

I didn't mean it like that. I meant, will the key be used to decrypt your message after you tell us how? Because as you see everyone else just used encipher.it where you only need to give the decrypted message, and later a password to decrypt it.

Only slaol would target ika as amnesiac this early.
If ika is mm, then slaol is mm.
1 death means it is more likely ika is not mm and slaol is not mm neither.
So there are still 2 mm, not like what you thought outrageously.

I guess it makes sense to lay low as an amnesiac and stay at home until you are confident that your dead target is not town, so that you can turn into MM who can probably win easier than a Jester.

Feel to reveal your results anytime now orpz, here is my cipher.

EnCt2852929a7c7df989dc514b98b47c74c2183ad7e1285292 9a7c7df989dc514b98bYS2e3znqZwB
3AZ0ZvlOYHdkTN5rWKcwLbKkaFCAgs/IxmMwSsbyG4JFj2hQPtWchf34UNrktl099IwEmS

Honestly, I think I was a little hasty to go after louis.

-vote Banshis

If Banshis is lying about nopro visiting him (he isn't lying about him visiting nopro, as I confirmed it), then nopro is lying too (since he confirmed Banshis visiting him before I did).
If Banshis is lying about who he visited, then all three of us (nopro, Banshis, SpiritFryer) are lying.

Posted Action/Feedback:
42shadow42
louiswill
Orpz
Fatalis
SpiritFryer
nopro

Not posted Action/Feedback yet:
Noctiz - already posted something
Slaol - already posted something
powerofdeath - no posts yet
Banshis - no posts yet
Citrus - no posts yet

[SpiritFryer]

Posted Action/Feedback:
42shadow42
louiswill
Orpz
Fatalis
SpiritFryer
nopro

Not posted Action/Feedback yet:
Noctiz - already posted something
Slaol - already posted something
powerofdeath - no posts yet
Banshis - no posts yet
Citrus - no posts yet

This is just a gentle reminder. There is no pressure or anything, since all the feedbacks are encrypted.

[SpiritFryer]

Posted Action/Feedback:
42shadow42
louiswill
Orpz
Fatalis
SpiritFryer
nopro

Not posted Action/Feedback yet:
Noctiz - already posted something
Slaol - already posted something
powerofdeath - no posts yet
Banshis - no posts yet
Citrus - no posts yet

pod died lol.

[Fatalis]

is everyone waiting on everyone to give their results?
This is going nowhere

Only 1 person died again, so ika being MM is unlikely, and being Amn also unlikely

banshis is almost confirmed town, I townread spirit and orpz both
I'm betting Slaol is jester, so lynching him isn't a good choice

my vote goes to either louiswill or citrus

[Fatalis]

-vote louiswill

[SpiritFryer]

is everyone waiting on everyone to give their results?
This is going nowhere

We are waiting for people to give their encrypted results, yes. Once they do, we will all post our passwords and then someone can compile a list of all feedbacks. (If I am around I will do it.)

I would rather not vote until we have this information, as it will almost surely change at least some of my reads.

[SpiritFryer]

Until then, let's discuss our game plan for town win.

If we manage to confirm someone for MM, should we lynch them? Would it not be wiser to lynch Amnesiacs first? If we lynch a confirmed MM, then the next day each Amnesiac will have become an MM.

/discuss

[Fatalis]

Until then, let's discuss our game plan for town win.

If we manage to confirm someone for MM, should we lynch them? Would it not be wiser to lynch Amnesiacs first? If we lynch a confirmed MM, then the next day each Amnesiac will have become an MM.

/discuss

because majority reads ika as amn/MM, amnesiacs will likely visit them
so I bet most, if not all are jesters now

[SpiritFryer]

Until then, let's discuss our game plan for town win.

If we manage to confirm someone for MM, should we lynch them? Would it not be wiser to lynch Amnesiacs first? If we lynch a confirmed MM, then the next day each Amnesiac will have become an MM.

/discuss

I thought things over. Lynching an MM is a much better choice, because Amnesiacs cannot act as MMs until the next night, increasing the chance of no town deaths.

So let's assume that right now we are at 2 MMs + 2 Amne + 1 Jester vs 5 Town. We lynch MM.

Tonight nobody dies.


Tomorrow, 3 MMs + 1 Jester vs 5 Town. We lynch MM.

That night 1 town dies (so far with 2 MMs there has been a 1 KPN for two nights).


The next day, 2 MMs + 1 Jester vs 4 Town. Lynch MM.

That night 1 town dies.


Then 1 MM + 1 Jester vs 3 Town. Lynch last MM and win.

There is no space for errors.

--

The other case is where ika was MM/amne or pod was amne (unlikely since he died at night on night 2, meaning he was attacked on n1 too due to autovest).

Out of these I think the likeliest would be ika for amne. But then how would you explain only one death last night? If ika was amne then there should be AT LEAST 1 amne turned into MM (Slaol). 3 MMs and 1 kill with 11 players possible to visit? I would've expected more.

Either way we need to get MMs and towns need to survive.

--

TL; DR: I REALLY think we need to get an MM today, and hope that the other MM(s) cannot kill anyone tonight.

because majority reads ika as amn/MM, amnesiacs will likely visit them
so I bet most, if not all are jesters now

If that's the case then it could be very good for town if we can get an MM today.

[SpiritFryer]

because majority reads ika as amn/MM, amnesiacs will likely visit them
so I bet most, if not all are jesters now

Also if this is the case, then we need to be careful. I won't say of what yet as I don't want to give ideas to certain roles. Let's hope everyone finishes claiming their actions/feedbacks soon so that we can get down to business.

[Banshis]

Louiswill who did u visit last night? You said who u visited n1, but not n2.

[SpiritFryer]

Louiswill who did u visit last night? You said who u visited n1, but not n2.

From what I can gather this is his N2 encrypted action.

slaj.dtmkzwjlgkzu ching

I forget to post the key.

Key: board

[Banshis]

From what I can gather this is his N2 encrypted action.

Well I'd like to see what his results are. Going to be leaving now, but I'm going to wait to post my feedback since I am basically confirmed det.

[42shadow42]

Feel to reveal your results anytime now orpz, here is my cipher.

EnCt2852929a7c7df989dc514b98b47c74c2183ad7e1285292 9a7c7df989dc514b98bYS2e3znqZwB
3AZ0ZvlOYHdkTN5rWKcwLbKkaFCAgs/IxmMwSsbyG4JFj2hQPtWchf34UNrktl099IwEmS

Honestly, I think I was a little hasty to go after louis.

-vote Banshis

Excellent timing. I just got free.

Nick visited Orpz on night 1.

This is incorrect my password was coroner. Nick visited Banshis.

[42shadow42]

My next question is what did Vantas do n1, I believe Noctiz replaced Vantas? Could you give us a little insight?

[Citrus]

On my phone, I'll post cipher when I get on a computer

Oh look pod was town. ><

[Citrus]

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xTsG5vlOEFd6voEiujdZe2SzfkmZDMKmKaeJ8Hi8QXBd7eaqY6 zQMDhktIwEmS

Feedback as promised