S-FM 203 Artificial Intelligence II

[ThePaladin]

A. Not this early.

B. Dumb excuse

C. Are you making excuses as to why you were roleblocked?

D. A consort/escort wouldn't be confirmed, so why would they waste time?

E. Such as?

A: Mafia Wars I

B; Mafia Wars I

C: I'm listing all possible options.

D: Cause Gambits and more wifom.

E: See F and mafia wars I.

[ThePaladin]

Impossible information as to what? Once again, scum don't know who Jarvis is either. So you are trying to argue I'm scum for NAI argument.

I'm arguing you are scum for making a claim that you had impossible information.

I can't think of a single reason for town to make a claim to know RP names cause by default that would be impossible to know and therefore they would be lieing.

[Unknown1234]

A: Mafia Wars I

B; Mafia Wars I

C: I'm listing all possible options.

D: Cause Gambits and more wifom.

E: See F and mafia wars I.

A and B are referencing to different games with different setups, did you plan an excuse Incase you were roleblocked? LMAO.

C. No, it sounds like you are lookin for an excuse.

D. There would be no point. At that point it's 8v3v1, the more they kill the better for their sake since Executioner is essentially on their side (target is town)

You didn't answer me. Who you do think Executioners target was? Unless of course you think it's me and you can't confess or your argument dies.

[Carrot Cake]

some notes:

vigi has 1 shot left
no healing notification
journalist is unlikely

[Carrot Cake]

unknown you think paladin could be ultron who was roleblock by escort?

[Unknown1234]

I'm arguing you are scum for making a claim that you had impossible information.

I can't think of a single reason for town to make a claim to know RP names cause by default that would be impossible to know and therefore they would be lieing.

A. They don't care

B. They do care

C. They don't want to waste a day and a TPR. You already set out to lynch me before the day started.

D. What would scum benefit for making this claim exactly? You can't answer because there is no reason. This is once again a NAI argument.

[Unknown1234]

unknown you think paladin could be ultron who was roleblock by escort?

Yep. The way he is acting is as if he thinks I am escort and needs to get me offed so he doesn't have suspicion. He is making invalid scum-hunting arguments which make him look flailed and is saying everyone who voted with him is town. How do you feel about this?

[Carrot Cake]

also:
"While he is alive, Ultron may give up his night action to demote himself to Ultron Sentry (receiving a new role in the process) and select and promote an Ultron Sentry to Ultron."

[Unknown1234]

ThePaladin did you even look at my town/scum reads? Because you act as if I've done/said nothing.

[ThePaladin]

A and B are referencing to different games with different setups, did you plan an excuse Incase you were roleblocked? LMAO.

C. No, it sounds like you are lookin for an excuse.

D. There would be no point. At that point it's 8v3v1, the more they kill the better for their sake since Executioner is essentially on their side (target is town)

You didn't answer me. Who you do think Executioners target was? Unless of course you think it's me and you can't confess or your argument dies.

You said scum wouldn't not shoot this early. It's perfectly possible they didn't. A and B Stand

C. Cause listing all possibilities is making an excuse yeah...

D. Listing All possibilities.

Are you arguing that all of these aren't possible reasons?


I don't feel that I have enough information to guess who exe target was.
Banana could have easily played this game out long term, there was no reason for exe to need their target lynched d1.

"Besides Banana hopped on my train at end of day therefore her target must have been me. "
--See we can make an arguments about this but ultimately they don't give us any good information due to the possibility of banana playing the long game. This doesn't confirm me as town nor you nor anyone else.

[ThePaladin]

Yep. The way he is acting is as if he thinks I am escort and needs to get me offed so he doesn't have suspicion. He is making invalid scum-hunting arguments which make him look flailed and is saying everyone who voted with him is town. How do you feel about this?

Only 3 people inclusive have come on and spoken(gyrlander viewed forum but didn't post); out of that I have claimed roleblocked but no one has claimed to have roleblocked me. Therefore

Why would I think you are escort?




Why do you assume a consort didn't rb me?

[Gyrlander]

Unknown, please tell us how do you know who Jarvis is ASAP

[ThePaladin]

Unknown, please tell us how do you know who Jarvis is ASAP

It's literally impossible even for Jarvis. That's the point.

[ThePaladin]

Please feel free to tell me how I'm wrong if it's not impossible.

[Carrot Cake]

Unknown, please tell us how do you know who Jarvis is ASAP

thought on paladin roleblock?

[ThePaladin]

Unknown, please tell us how do you know who Jarvis is ASAP

@ Gyrlander , are you feeling better/ should we expect more activity from you?

[Unknown1234]

You said scum wouldn't not shoot this early. It's perfectly possible they didn't. A and B Stand

C. Cause listing all possibilities is making an excuse yeah...

D. Listing All possibilities.

Are you arguing that all of these aren't possible reasons?


I don't feel that I have enough information to guess who exe target was.
Banana could have easily played this game out long term, there was no reason for exe to need their target lynched d1.

"Besides Banana hopped on my train at end of day therefore her target must have been me. "
--See we can make an arguments about this but ultimately they don't give us any good information due to the possibility of banana playing the long game. This doesn't confirm me as town nor you nor anyone else.

I think it's a coward answer to say you don't know who her target was. She DID play for the long-run, nobody expected her to be Executioner. She silently accused her teammate by not making it obvious to anyone. She BLATANTLY SAYS "We can come back to Unknown later" which isn't something you would expect exe to say. The way your looking at this is that you don't think they'd be obvious WHEN THEY DIED. But I don't think they'd care seeing as they would have lost.

Tell me you thought they were executioner. If you can't then you shouldn't be saying they were obvious.

Why are you listing all the possibilities once again? It's irrelevant, anyone could figure this out, and it just looks like you are making excuses as to why Ultron didn't kill. (Which Is highly why I think you are Ultron)
How far towards the end of the day do you think she hopped on considering she joined almost a day after the game started, not very far off. Once again, making excuses as to why I can't be Town with no acception a, I'm just blatantly scum.

Never argued these aren't possible, but there is no point in discussing this further.

[Unknown1234]

Unknown, please tell us how do you know who Jarvis is ASAP

Guessed.

[Mesk514]

i totally thought the paladin was the exec and rlvg was scum, guess not.... although the paladin could still be scum.

[Gyrlander]

thought on paladin roleblock?

I guess a person that thought that he could be evil and roleblocked him?

[Unknown1234]

It's literally impossible even for Jarvis. That's the point.

Your not listening to me and ignoring all of my points. So let me number it for you because you seem to like numbers.

1.) why would scum assume they know who Jarvis is?

2.( why does it matter if I "think" I know who Jarvis is? How is this alignment Indictive?

I think people are avoiding that ThePaladin is acting highly scummy pushing NAI points and not listening.

3.) read my points on everyone and tell me what you think.

[ThePaladin]

Guessed.

Lynch This Guy For Slipping.

You seemed so confident about knowing who Jarvis was till I pointed it out.
Now It's Just A Guess?

[ThePaladin]

Your not listening to me and ignoring all of my points. So let me number it for you because you seem to like numbers.

1.) why would scum assume they know who Jarvis is?

2.( why does it matter if I "think" I know who Jarvis is? How is this alignment Indictive?

I think people are avoiding that ThePaladin is acting highly scummy pushing NAI points and not listening.

3.) read my points on everyone and tell me what you think.

1) Cause they could claim it

2) Caues it's impossible

YOU LITERALLY CLAIMED TO HAVE IMPOSSIBLE INFORMATION

THERE IS NO REASON FOR TOWN TO DO THAT.

[Unknown1234]

Only 3 people inclusive have come on and spoken(gyrlander viewed forum but didn't post); out of that I have claimed roleblocked but no one has claimed to have roleblocked me. Therefore

Why would I think you are escort?




Why do you assume a consort didn't rb me?

I didn't actually make that assumption, I claimed that I believe you were roleblocked by escort for making too many possibilities and trying to make it obvious that the scum didn't shoot for whatever reason.

I claimed a TPR and I think you are scummy. What else would you suspect?

[Carrot Cake]

I guess a person that thought that he could be evil and roleblocked him?

this.
you are claiming you know it must of been an escort to roleblock him.
you also dont assume it might of roleblocked the factional kill

-vote Gyrlander

[ThePaladin]

Note: I am not pushing to lynch early especially since the whole roleblock debacle is still an issue., but this guy does need to be lynched by end of day.

[Unknown1234]

1) Cause they could claim it

2) Caues it's impossible

YOU LITERALLY CLAIMED TO HAVE IMPOSSIBLE INFORMATION

THERE IS NO REASON FOR TOWN TO DO THAT.

It's NAI Indictive.

Of course it's impossible dipshit, why do you think I wouldn't know this as scum, but I know it as town.

Because I said "I think" and "guessed" I NEVER SAID I 100% KNEW WHO JARVIS WAS. STOP MISREPPING ME AND FOCUS ON SOMETHING USEFUL.

Why would I claim this as SCUM?

[ThePaladin]

I didn't actually make that assumption, I claimed that I believe you were roleblocked by escort for making too many possibilities and trying to make it obvious that the scum didn't shoot for whatever reason.

I claimed a TPR and I think you are scummy. What else would you suspect?

You also claimed to know who Jarvis is and thought that supported you thinking I am scummy

Claiming a tpr without anything to add/confirm yourself/etc. is probably the scummiest thing you can do in this setup.

[Carrot Cake]

btwiktucnbrb

[Carrot Cake]

paladin you can stop this knowing javis buisnes now it has goten old and borderline the opposite of useles.

[Unknown1234]

Note: I am not pushing to lynch early especially since the whole roleblock debacle is still an issue., but this guy does need to be lynched by end of day.

I highly request you read EVERYTHING SAID AND REALIZE HOW OBVIOUS THEPALADIN HAS BEEN. HE MAKES OBVIOUS OBSERVATIONS ON THE POSSIBILITIES OF ESCORT NOT ROLEBLOCKING HIM, THEN TRIES TO USE NAI ARGUMENTS TO FRAME ME AS MAFIA.

Not angry, just need everyone to read this argument really well.

[ThePaladin]

It's NAI Indictive.

Of course it's impossible dipshit, why do you think I wouldn't know this as scum, but I know it as town.

Because I said "I think" and "guessed" I NEVER SAID I 100% KNEW WHO JARVIS WAS. STOP MISREPPING ME AND FOCUS ON SOMETHING USEFUL.

Why would I claim this as SCUM?

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YOU SAID YOU BELIEVED TO KNOW WHO JARVIS WAS. IT DOESN'T MATTER. YOU LITERALLY CANNOT EVEN HAVE A LEAD THAT DIFFERENTIATES A TOWNY FROM JARVIS.


Cause I assume Ultron faction know their rp names otherwise who would be able to know that they can downgrade to an ultron sentry and upgrade someone else to ultron. But you forgot that all town rp names are not known to anyone.

[Unknown1234]

You also claimed to know who Jarvis is and thought that supported you thinking I am scummy

Claiming a tpr without anything to add/confirm yourself/etc. is probably the scummiest thing you can do in this setup.

No, shut up and read my posts. I NEVER ONCE SAID IT WAS CONFIRMED I KNEW WHO JARVIS IS, ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE MISREPPING ME.

[Unknown1234]

Cake, what do you think about this poor justification of a scum read?

[ThePaladin]

I highly request you read EVERYTHING SAID AND REALIZE HOW OBVIOUS THEPALADIN HAS BEEN. HE MAKES OBVIOUS OBSERVATIONS ON THE POSSIBILITIES OF ESCORT NOT ROLEBLOCKING HIM, THEN TRIES TO USE NAI ARGUMENTS TO FRAME ME AS MAFIA.

Not angry, just need everyone to read this argument really well.

Apparently pointing out all possibilities of why scum could not kill a guy is scummy.
You asked why. I gave you all reasons why, and now you are saying I am scummy for listing all the possibilities?

In what scenario would I not list consort/ or hoping an escort roleblocking a guy would cause a mislynch cause of the no-shoot. As a possibility?

[Carrot Cake]

paldin and unknown just stop now or else i will leave for the night

[Unknown1234]

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YOU SAID YOU BELIEVED TO KNOW WHO JARVIS WAS. IT DOESN'T MATTER. YOU LITERALLY CANNOT EVEN HAVE A LEAD THAT DIFFERENTIATES A TOWNY FROM JARVIS.


Cause I assume Ultron faction know their rp names otherwise who would be able to know that they can downgrade to an ultron sentry and upgrade someone else to ultron. But you forgot that all town rp names are not known to anyone.

Those aren't RP names, "Ultron Sentry" you are so dumb. Obviously Ultrons know who they are, but I don't consider that at all relevant to your argument because I can read he setup.

[Unknown1234]

paldin and unknown just stop now or else i will leave for the night

If you don't think he is being scummy I will leave for the night.
Nobody is around and ThePaladin is obvious scummy. If I need to Roleclaim I will.

[Lolunicorn12358]

Cause doctor can heal a person who was shot.

We had no kill

Either A: Scum who was sent to kill was roleblocked.

....

Okay, reading back through, and uh, Paladin, you claimed Roleblocked... You are already suspected as scummy (AND REALLY ANNOYING) by multiple people, and now this happens? Ummm maybe it wasn't so dumb to try and vote you

[ThePaladin]

paldin and unknown just stop now or else i will leave for the night

Pick a side, first.

You either believed he slipped or didn't.

This guy needs to be lynched today since it's a guaranteed scum lynch since no towny would claim to have or claim to have a lead on impossible information even in a gambit



Otherwise I do agree we need to start focusing on other people since at this point it's going to be a whole "Yes you did" "No I didn't" thing for 50pages.

[Unknown1234]

Okay, reading back through, and uh, Paladin, you claimed Roleblocked... You are already suspected as scummy (AND REALLY ANNOYING) by multiple people, and now this happens? Ummm maybe it wasn't so dumb to try and vote you

Someone with Logic arrives.

What do you think about him scum-reading me because I guessed who Jarvis was?

[ThePaladin]

Okay, reading back through, and uh, Paladin, you claimed Roleblocked... You are already suspected as scummy (AND REALLY ANNOYING) by multiple people, and now this happens? Ummm maybe it wasn't so dumb to try and vote you

Listing out all possibilities(even when asked) is now a scummy thing to do apparently!

[Unknown1234]

Listing out all possibilities(even when asked) is now a scummy thing to do apparently!

What you did was make obvious comments/excuses in order to have more room for you to breathe.

[Gyrlander]

Guessed.

You guess it and you fucking say "I'm sure"? ...

[Carrot Cake]

@Lolunicorn12358 if you think paladin is ultron who was roleblocked so couldnt kill please vote him.
same with other people.

[Unknown1234]

You guess it and you fucking say "I'm sure"? ...

Yep, vote me if you think this is a scum-slip, but it is one of the least-justified things I've ever heard and if I'm miss lynched I expect you to lynch ThePaladin afterwards.

[ThePaladin]

Let me ask this question

If I need to list all possibilities that can occur in a given set of circumstances to show how we can know that we have one of the following roles since someone else asked.

How would be listing all possibilities be considered scummy as opposed to listing just some possibilities?

I was answering a question of how we knew we had a potential doctor, and consort/escort given that we had no night kill.
In order for me to answer that I must list ALL possibilities.

[Unknown1234]

You guess it and you fucking say "I'm sure"? ...

I just read through and I didn't say "I'm sure"

[Unknown1234]

Let me ask this question

If I need to list all possibilities that can occur in a given set of circumstances to show how we can know that we have one of the following roles since someone else asked.

How would be listing all possibilities be considered scummy as opposed to listing just some possibilities?

I was answering a question of how we knew we had a potential doctor, and consort/escort given that we had no night kill.
In order for me to answer that I must list ALL possibilities.

Why would you need to list any alternatives? We can figure them out ourselves. You listing them is a defense.

[ThePaladin]

No, it's because I'm scum-reading your town-read, let's be honest.

I know this, and I am very convinced I know who Jarvis is.

Why am I seeming more scummy?