S-FM: Prelude

[CmG]

What for Bork? Creed is not the last scum though.

[clementine]

Okayyyyy well then BorkBot or Fatalis IS the last PR.
I almost think that Fatalis could be a mafia consig who investigated me last night, or an arsonist

Honestly, I believe straykiwi's citizen claim over dust's.

Godfather – espozito/dust?
Hidden Mafia [consort – jr]
Hidden Mafia espozito/fatalis
Hidden Evil Neutral [arsonist fatalis?]
Benign Neutral - espozito/cmg
Mason Leader - Damus
Mason Leader - Roflcopter
Detective - Clementine
Detective - AppleyNO
Doctor - chane
Vigilante - BorkBot
Citizen - apocist?
Citizen – straykiwi/dust?

-vote Fatalis

I guess it's good for Roflcopter to keep the new mason hidden for now. Just be sure to leave it in your last will.

[clementine]

I just wanna die and leave this game, I suck.

pm the host -suicide?

[BorkBot]

Okayyyyy well then BorkBot or Fatalis IS the last PR.
I almost think that Fatalis could be a mafia consig who investigated me last night, or an arsonist

Honestly, I believe straykiwi's citizen claim over dust's.

Godfather – espozito/dust?
Hidden Mafia [consort – jr]
Hidden Mafia espozito/fatalis
Hidden Evil Neutral [arsonist fatalis?]
Benign Neutral - espozito/cmg
Mason Leader - Damus
Mason Leader - Roflcopter
Detective - Clementine
Detective - AppleyNO
Doctor - chane
Vigilante - BorkBot
Citizen - apocist?
Citizen – straykiwi/dust?

-vote Fatalis

I guess it's good for Roflcopter to keep the new mason hidden for now. Just be sure to leave it in your last will.

Why don't you include Fatalis and Dust in the Benign Neutral possibilities? I think that slot is up for grabs.

All I know for sure is we can definitely exclude Fatalis from being Godfather, assuming AppleyNo's claim is true.

CmG is probably a neutral because he claimed roleblocked, which must have been Jr4life24. He could still be mafia though, if there is a witch in the game that we don't know about. A witch as only evil neutral would make the setup imbalanced, however.

There's a small chance that Dust is a citizen, so we can leave him alone until tomorrow.

Because Espozito can be ANY slot but town, we will learn the most from his lynch and he has the most possible roles whose lynch actually benefits us.

[BorkBot]

What for Bork? Creed is not the last scum though.

As I said, I know too much. I stalk the bad and the ugly in the dark alleys and bite their ankles... for I am the head vigilante

[BorkBot]

I'll shoot CmG tonight to prove it.

Don't bother tracking CmG plox, would be a waste of your action.

[clementine]

Lol srry I am playing in too many FM's at once... Need to scale back to just 1 at a time I think.
Too hard to keep everything straight.

I'd suggest to recruit Dust because straykiwi almost certainly is citizen. So we lynching today or what.

[Chane]

I say we lynch ezpo, recruit Dust, and vigi shoot CmG

[CmG]

shooting me wont make the game end quicker. there goes your mvp chance lol.

[CmG]

seems like random.org only gave the noobs scum. How boring.

[BorkBot]

To make a (hopefully) useful list of possibilities:

Godfather – Espozito, Dust, Straykiwi
Hidden Mafia - Espozito (Framer/Consigliere/Mafioso), Dust (Framer/Consigliere/Mafioso), Straykiwi (Framer/Consigliere/Mafioso), Fatalis (Framer/Consigliere)
Hidden Evil Neutral (Mass Murderer/Cult Leader/Arsonist) - Espozito, CmG, Fatalis, Dust, Straykiwi
Benign Neutral (Amnesiac/Jester) - Espozito, CmG, Fatalis, Dust, Straykiwi
Cit - Dust, Straykiwi

Assumptions made for this list:
Mafia would've used a janitor night 1 if they had one, AppleyNo's results and attacked+healed claim are true and Chane's doctor claim is too. There is no witch because scum would be too weak, and Jr4life24 blocked CmG, so he can't be mafia. The benign neut is a jester or amnesiac because if there was an executioner someone else would've tried to push some lynch and a survivor would've claimed his real role by now.

The biggest mystery are the neutrals, so I'll eliminate a guaranteed neutral tonight so we'll know more about them tomorrow.

And today we can lynch Espozito, who can be any scum role, but not a town role. 75% chance that he's Godfather, Hidden Mafia or Evil Neutral. 25% jester.

shooting me wont make the game end quicker. there goes your mvp chance lol.

Care to enlighten us about how to make the game end quicker? ;)

[Apocist]

How did we actually deduce that Espo was anti-town?

[Roflcopter]

seems like random.org only gave the noobs scum. How boring.

I'm not scum :P

Any why are you so paranoid of dying, in all the FMs I play with you, I see "I bet arson has me doused" "I bet (insert killer here) is going to kill me tonight"
Is that just some extra WIFOM to make them not target you?



As for a possible jester, the jester CHOOSES his/her target, so maybe we can ask them to be nice and hit a scum?

[Roflcopter]

To make a (hopefully) useful list of possibilities:

Godfather – Espozito, Dust, Straykiwi
Hidden Mafia - Espozito (Framer/Consigliere/Mafioso), Dust (Framer/Consigliere/Mafioso), Straykiwi (Framer/Consigliere/Mafioso), Fatalis (Framer/Consigliere)
Hidden Evil Neutral (Mass Murderer/Cult Leader/Arsonist) - Espozito, CmG, Fatalis, Dust, Straykiwi
Benign Neutral (Amnesiac/Jester) - Espozito, CmG, Fatalis, Dust, Straykiwi
Cit - Dust, Straykiwi

Assumptions made for this list:
Mafia would've used a janitor night 1 if they had one, AppleyNo's results and attacked+healed claim are true and Chane's doctor claim is too. There is no witch because scum would be too weak, and Jr4life24 blocked CmG, so he can't be mafia. The benign neut is a jester or amnesiac because if there was an executioner someone else would've tried to push some lynch and a survivor would've claimed his real role by now.

The biggest mystery are the neutrals, so I'll eliminate a guaranteed neutral tonight so we'll know more about them tomorrow.

And today we can lynch Espozito, who can be any scum role, but not a town role. 75% chance that he's Godfather, Hidden Mafia or Evil Neutral. 25% jester.


Care to enlighten us about how to make the game end quicker? ;)

Why is apocist not on the possible cit-list, do you not believe his claim?

[CmG]

To make a (hopefully) useful list of possibilities:

Godfather – Espozito, Dust, Straykiwi
Hidden Mafia - Espozito (Framer/Consigliere/Mafioso), Dust (Framer/Consigliere/Mafioso), Straykiwi (Framer/Consigliere/Mafioso), Fatalis (Framer/Consigliere)
Hidden Evil Neutral (Mass Murderer/Cult Leader/Arsonist) - Espozito, CmG, Fatalis, Dust, Straykiwi
Benign Neutral (Amnesiac/Jester) - Espozito, CmG, Fatalis, Dust, Straykiwi
Cit - Dust, Straykiwi

Assumptions made for this list:
Mafia would've used a janitor night 1 if they had one, AppleyNo's results and attacked+healed claim are true and Chane's doctor claim is too. There is no witch because scum would be too weak, and Jr4life24 blocked CmG, so he can't be mafia. The benign neut is a jester or amnesiac because if there was an executioner someone else would've tried to push some lynch and a survivor would've claimed his real role by now.

The biggest mystery are the neutrals, so I'll eliminate a guaranteed neutral tonight so we'll know more about them tomorrow.

And today we can lynch Espozito, who can be any scum role, but not a town role. 75% chance that he's Godfather, Hidden Mafia or Evil Neutral. 25% jester.


Care to enlighten us about how to make the game end quicker? ;)

Fatalis = Arsonist
Dust = hidden mafia probably framer
Espozito = gf

[CmG]

The logical solution is to lynch Fatalis today, shoot Dust tonight. Lynch Espo tomorrow since town has no roleblockers.

[BorkBot]

Why is apocist not on the possible cit-list, do you not believe his claim?

I more or less assume that he's a mason now. And if he isn't, then I believe his citizen claim.

It's not worth taking him into consideration when looking for scum, so why should I include him for the cit slot that's still in question?

[BorkBot]

Fatalis = Arsonist
Dust = hidden mafia probably framer
Espozito = gf

Even if you claim benign neutral, how do you know Fatalis isn't hidden mafia?

[Roflcopter]

-vote fatalis

I'm not seeing what you guys are seeing, but i'd like to find out the neutral evil, and especially knock off an arson.

(inb4 glip has a mechanic change where arson can ignite during day)

[straykiwi]

The logical solution is to lynch Fatalis today, shoot Dust tonight. Lynch Espo tomorrow since town has no roleblockers.

.this

[BorkBot]

I disagree, because Fatalis is 66% mafia/neutral killer and 33% jester. Espozito is 75% mafia/neutral killer and 25% jester.

While hearing CmG out may or may not be useful, we shouldn't take hints from someone whose best claim is benign neutral, while he could easily be the evil neutral himself.

[Roflcopter]

Since there's 3 citizen roleclaimers, one of them a mason...

Should I bother recruiting the other citizen roleclaimer if you plan on shooting dust, one of the roleclaimers (He is not a mason atm)?

Or should I go hunting for a cultist.

[Roflcopter]

I disagree, because Fatalis is 66% mafia/neutral killer and 33% jester. Espozito is 75% mafia/neutral killer and 25% jester.

While hearing CmG out may or may not be useful, we shouldn't take hints from someone whose best claim is benign neutral, while he could easily be the evil neutral himself.

Where are you getting those percentages from?

[CmG]

Since it makes no sense for a mafia member to visit clementine last night. Not for a framer, not for a consigliere. That's why. We have a basic mafia team here which can't use meta really well so they do more basic night actions and go for obvious targets. Like roleblocking me day 1 since i was pro town the whole time to get a free heal.

It's pretty basic stuff Bork. Glip explicitly tried to make a non meta setup. Thats why we have 2 detectives and an Arso. This wont allow 2 town protection roles to start with just out of balance. A bodyguard claim is therefore illogical which makes him scum to 100%.

I agree he is high likely framer.

Then we have dust on the other side where we have 0 reads on him and Apocist.

-vote Espozito

[BorkBot]

Where are you getting those percentages from?

Post #661

It's because Fatalis can't be in the Godfather slot, while Espozito can be.

And besides that, Fatalis still has a small chance of being amnesiac, whereas I'm ruling that out for Espozito.

I won't shoot Dust. He might still be a cit. Probing citizen suspects is the masons' job.

[CmG]

Yeah i like to make illogical posts! They framed Clem since they suck.

[CmG]

No he has no chance to be an amnesiac its 0%. Since i am the benign neutral. THE END

[AppleyNO]

Im here!

Do we have a vote tally?

[BorkBot]

Since it makes no sense for a mafia member to visit clementine last night. Not for a framer, not for a consigliere. That's why. We have a basic mafia team here which can't use meta really well so they do more basic night actions and go for obvious targets. Like roleblocking me day 1 since i was pro town the whole time to get a free heal.

It's pretty basic stuff Bork. Glip explicitly tried to make a non meta setup. Thats why we have 2 detectives and an Arso. This wont allow 2 town protection roles to start with just out of balance. A bodyguard claim is therefore illogical which makes him scum to 100%.

I agree he is high likely framer.

Wat?

Yeah i like to make illogical posts! They framed Clem since they suck.

Lol.

And yeah, I'd say a framer did have legitimate reason to visit clem last night. She was definitely someone AppleyNo might want to watch. And if I had been a sheriff (which I definitely could have been, since I called out Jr4life24), I might have visited her too. I did think her constant unvoting/revoting/vote changing was sort of fishy.

[AppleyNO]

Also, I'm up for lynching either one.

I skimmed through day(DONT HURT ME), I have a lot of work do to and not a lot of time to do it it. Ill try to be back by the time I have to end day in my SFM.

-Vote Espozito
I'm using Borks logic on this one.

[BorkBot]

Tally:

Espozito (4): BorkBot, Chane, CmG, AppleyNo
Fatalis (2): Clementine, Roflcopter

[BorkBot]

I propose the following:

-lynch Espozito
-me on CmG
-Clem on Fatalis
-Appley on Dust
-Masons on Kiwi

That way even if Fatalis or Dust gets framed, we'll still have all the info we need.

[Roflcopter]

CmG you claim benign neutral, but would you be willing to specific what role exactly?

How do we know you're not the evil neutral?

[Dust]

So just reading so far in this day. Since the town is closing in on the scum pretty hard, I won't mind being shot if it brings us closer to exposing mafia/neutrals.

[BorkBot]

So just reading so far in this day. Since the town is closing in on the scum pretty hard, I won't mind being shot if it brings us closer to exposing mafia/neutrals.

It's not necessary, because the masons and one detective can check both remaining cit claimers at the same time.

[Dust]

It's not necessary, because the masons and one detective can check both remaining cit claimers at the same time.

Just putting it out there if it would help.

[BorkBot]

Wait.. I missed straykiwi's early vote

Fix't Tally:

Espozito (4): BorkBot, Chane, CmG, AppleyNo
Fatalis (3): Straykiwi, Clementine, Roflcopter

[BorkBot]

How about casting a vote, Dust? That's the power of citizens after all!

I'd like to see which pile has your fancy.

[Dust]

How about casting a vote, Dust? That's the power of citizens after all!

I'd like to see which pile has your fancy.

I'll even out the piles

-vote Fatalis

[CmG]

I am executioner. Telling you my target destroys the purpose.

[BorkBot]

So both citizen claimers are on Fatalis. Excellent.

That strengthens my belief that Espozito is Godfodder.

[clementine]

I'm scared of being burned by the arson tonight. >.>
Although I guess it makes a lot more sense that we would have a cult in this game instead of arson. idk man

Rofl just recruit whoever you want.

-vote Espozito

[clementine]

How do we know that CmG isn't the cult leader? Pros and cons of just lynching CmG today?

If we believe CmG, I wonder if it's:

Godfather – espozito
Hidden Mafia [consort – jr]
Hidden Mafia - Fatalis
Hidden Evil Neutral [cult leader borkbot]
Hidden Benign Neutral – CmG
Mason Leader - Damus
Mason Leader - Roflcopter
Detective - Clementine
Detective - AppleyNO
Doctor - Chane
Citizen - Dust
Citizen - apocist
Citizen – straykiwi

[BorkBot]

We'll know tomorrow if CmG is telling the truth or not.

But if he is exec, then I assume you to be his target. He did try on day 2.

[Fatalis]

-vote Ezposito
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Fatalis]

Someone please tell me that he's hammered right? T.T

[clementine]

Well, if Fatalis is town that means el Botto de Borko is scum!
No room for you in this setup, bro.

[clementine]

Fatalis on me or Chane, Chane on AppleyNO or Roflcopter. Take your pick.

Sorry Fatalis, I'm putting you at the end of the healing chain because I believe your claim the least.

[Fatalis]

Well, if Fatalis is town that means el Botto de Borko is scum!
No room for you in this setup, bro.

Sorry to dissapoint you good friend, but you and that executioner CmG WILL burst in flames. It will be the last thing I do before I die

[BorkBot]

-me on CmG
-Clem on Fatalis
-Appley on Dust
-Masons on Kiwi

For teh win.

I suggest El Doctor goes for Appley or Clem. You can get my results by seeing CmG alive or dead, but Appley and Clem need to live. And I'm immune to culting, so I don't need that kind of protection and neither does Copter. Appley is definitely not culted yet and I'd really hate to see that happen at this stage in the game, so I'd say him again...