Yeah. And if the game still didn't end at that point, Lembird is the only one who really hasn't shined much in that group.
Also, I announce that I'm just going to be a and-vote S-FM Quinne. I won't oppose my lynch, because I'm logically in the PoE and there isn't really a way to get me out of it; the best part is that it doesn't cost town anything (well, hopefully, but it shouldn't cost us anything). Is that the absolute optimal play? Maybe, maybe not, I don't know. I won't create useless discussion that way unless I see something scummy on my train (but then it will be useful discussion, of course).
About Joha, saying that because his last will claims Ensign, he's necessarily mafia is not a correct reasoning. If he's executioner, he has quite literally zero allegiance to anyone but himself. Town lynched him. He could very well just try to throw town off as a sweet, sweet vengeance lol. It isn't impossible for him to be mafia, but it is far from confirmed.
Sorry for being a dead weight, by the way, but I couldn't get myself to wrap my head around the mess we've created and suffered from lol.
I think Edoua and Lembird are scummier than Billigan, he might have been behind the times but at least he wasn't doing anything manipulative.
Lembird on the other hand made a scum read on me that he has failed to investigate or follow up on for.. what? five game days now? There was no test, no re evaluation
S-FM Joha Schtilzt (5 [L-0]): S-FM Marck Wilbird, S-FM Gollert Twissell, S-FM Billigan Holbird, S-FM Quinne, S-FM Fred Attlebish
S-FM Marck Wilbird (1 [L-4]): S-FM Bart Pilfter
S-FM Quinne (1 [L-4]): S-FM Lembird Oshay
Straight up avoided both trains yesterday^ (Quinne was on Marck before the final vote of hers hammered)
Edoua is continuing to misrepresent my positions. I'll respond to his post in my next one.
-vote S-FM Quinne
Well actually this comes as a priority. Would rather have the chance to keep Fred alive. Response to Edoua in my next post.
1. Not like you were here to push for a plan
2. How do you come up with this stuff? People are saying that I suck up to Fred too hard, yet you're here saying that I was accusing him. Like no. He is confirmed town, and therefore his reads and objectives are 100% from a town perspective. Of course I would value his opinions higher than anyone elses.
3a. You don't take a stance here. This says nothing.
3b. Now IF you believe neither side, then you should have evaluated him independently. Could he possibly be town outside of roleclaims and sheriff checks?
4.
5. Didn't bother to put in the effort to read his posts huh?
6. You don't read him as town, and your read on him hasn't changed, but you want him to go to the final three??? This part in particular is not scummy and I could give Edoua a point for not wanting to survive with Fred, but at the same time, if you're town you need to be advocating for your survival at this point. You see your own rolecard, so you are 100% sure you are town. But really the logic of wanting a scumread to be last three makes no sense.
I "buddy" constantly with Fred, because other than my own thoughts, he is for sure to have a non-manipulative viewpoint. Me lifting him up is "buddying" but compare this to town/scum's apathy and discouragement tactics. That resulted in him becoming discouraged because town seemed to not want to win and we lynched Marlwyn before Joha. That left a possibility yesterday for Town to lose majority if turncoat had shot yesterday.My annoyances yesterday were probably as you might have guessed Gollert, i don't know if this website has a record for longest lasting omgus ever in an FM. But after i accused Gollert of 1) buddying constantly with fred, which i find in itself anti town. 2) making a read list that makes no sense. Seriously this man put Quinne and Mulan as TPR together while 3) advocating for both of them to be lynched next.
Every post this revolved about me being scum, when i usually play people repond to these accusations with a defense. Maybe a counter accusation happens but I thought 1 post about this should be enough , especially since he knows he is posting when its 4 AM my time which i reminded everybody here of multiple times. Lembird even waited to hammer because he knew it was night where i live. Nah though , this dude has spilled straight up lies about me for an entire day and the sad thing is its probably working too.
Yeah I made a tentative prediction of people's roles that made no sense, but then after discussion with Bart and Lembird I've updated it. Looking back, I should not have worked it out in thread, but it's in my nature to get feedback and cooperate on things. Obviously scum was going to paint me on it. What's telling here is that Edoua reads all of yesterday, and then decides to post about my WIP. Like real? You couldn't have quoted the conclusion? This is a deliberate act of misrepresentation.
And no I didn't advocate for Quinne and Mulan to be lynched next. The whole point of my "world" exercise was to see if we could act on our individual reads on them, and the conclusion is no. We had to have lynched Joha first, before the TPR claims in order to maintain town majority in the possibility of a turncoat dayshot. I'm sure scum realized this, that their only way of realistically winning was to push for a mislynch then hope that the turncoat is alive then decides to shoot. Again, Edoua deliberately misrepresents my position here.
Look mate, I neither care nor know that I post when it's 4 AM your time. You had the rest of the day to check back in, read, and post. I don't see why you continue to voice your grievances about game/real-life/blah blah, as seen in the ISO I did of you (which you also conveniently haven't chosen to post about) your in-game contribution amounts to Shade Throwing, Complaints, and Discouragement, all psychological tactics scum uses to slow town thought progression.
Yeah and your "defense" is to lie back. I mean, since I'm right and I'm town, that's all you can do.
Let's do an exercise. I'll repost VCs from day 1 and 2, open the spoiler. Hit Crtl + F and type in "S-FM Edoua Maije." See if you can find his vote anywhere, or if he was avoiding voting altogether. *answer: you can't
Can you come up with a reason why he would withhold his vote?
Spoiler : Day 1 and 2 VCs :
Optimum play is out the window.
We are the bloodthirsty Town!
Kill the Sheriff!!!
-vote S-FM Quinne
S-FM Quinne has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!
S-FM Quinne (5 [L-0]): S-FM Fred Attlebish, S-FM Marck Wilbird, S-FM Billigan Holbird, S-FM Gollert Twissell, S-FM Bart Pilfter
Player Faction Status @S-FM Rotholfo Goncales ? Dead @S-FM Vlädislow Kennt ? Dead @S-FM Lois Francklyn ? Dead @S-FM Gollert Twissell ? Alive @S-FM Billigan Holbird ? Alive @S-FM Jiles Carballo ? Dead @S-FM Joha Schtilzt ? Dead @S-FM Lembird Oshay ? Alive @S-FM Fred Attlebish ? Alive @S-FM Arnarld Quinne ? Dead @S-FM Marlwyn Janson ? Dead @S-FM Jan Korvin ? Dead @S-FM Marck Wilbird ? Alive @S-FM Bart Pilfter ? Alive @S-FM Edoua Maije ? Alive
Link to setup:https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/45796-S-FM-Magellan-(15P)
Day 5:
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DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS
Lynching is disabled for the first 5 hours due to the inconsistent (and unusual) starting time, as some players have complained they were unable to post before the day ended.
4 votes to hammer.
Reset.
PSA:
The toxicity this game has prompted internal staff discussion and we’ve decided that infractions will be handed out at the end of the game to the parties involved.
Last edited by S-FM Magellan Core; July 16th, 2020 at 02:41 PM.
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WHAT THE HELL
WHAT THE FUCK
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
I DONT UNDERSTAND
SO HOST DIDN'T FUCK UP OOO???
BUT THEY FUCKED UP JAN'S PUBLIC REVEAL?
SO ROFOLOLOLOLO WAS ACTUALLY MAYOR??????????????????????????????????
MEANING THAT 2/3 OF THE MAFIA WERE IN THE 3 TPR CLAIMS, MULAN WAS INNOCENT, IT WAS NICK/QUINNE THAT WERE GUILTY
SINCE VLAD IS ALIVE AND DISGUISED ELSEWHERE?????????????
WHAT THE FUCK
AND I CAN'T FUCKING SUICIDE
BUT THIS LITTLE TIDBIT OF INFO CHANGES EVERYTHING
WHY WERE WE GIVEN THIS
WHAT THE FUCK
Also.
I’ve decided that all night chats (if any) will happen during the day and consequently, this game is effectively immediately a nightless. For architect-like roles, this means that they would get a 48h chat with their target. Likewise, roles that get feedback would receive it at the start of the next day. Killing would happen at the end of the day, or rather between the days.
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GOOD THING THAT I DIDN'T TURN OFF THE SETTING THAT MAKES YOU POST WITHOUT CHECKING FOR REPLIES ON THIS ACCOUNT. SO ALL THIS IS NOW VOID
Okay
So
Let's review this real quick
1) Vlad is alive. Which means he didn't disguise as jan
2) This means that Jan was coroner (public reveal happened day 3), was always coroner after, and for some reason couldn't publicly reveal again. FOR SOME REASON.
3) This means that both Fred and Jan were roleblocked. Which means that mafia had 2 roleblockers (godfather + other support). With Vlad (disguiser) 3rd role, that means that Mulan was 110% confirmed town. There's no universe where Mulan can be mafia
4) The two town support roles were Architect + Mayor. Since Jan, who apparently was coroner since VLAD IS ALIVE said Rofolololo was a gamethrowing mayor.
5) That means that both sheriff claims were FAKE, there was no actual framing done outside of lying. Nick lied about Mulan, Quinne lied about me
6) I FUCKING QUIT REGARDLESS. THIS IS ALL FUCKING BULLSHIT
-vote S-FM MARCK WILBIRD
FUCKING OFF ME. I JUST WASTED MY TIME AGAIN WRAPPING MY HEAD AROUND SOMETHING FALSE
TURBOLYNCH ME I DONT CARE ABOUT THIS 5 HOUR TIL WE CAN LYNCH BULLSHIT
HOST WONT FUCKING LET ME SUICIDE
One last thing.
We broke into Quinne’s personal computer and found a personal log.
It reads:
Spoiler : Quinne :
@Fred make sure you read my last will after I'm dead
Now launch a rocket at me as my avatar is showing
I can't WAIT to see what posts they quote on me for being "toxic" this game as an excuse to slap me with permanent infractions again
I will fucking protest
Just fucking ban me for 2 weeks like Slaol. Power hungry grubbing staff
THIS is why the anti staff alliance was a good idea in POD's survivor
Yet you guys had to fuck that up
Fucking lynch me already
4 votes to hammer.
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-vote S-FM Magellan Core
-open ship doors, launching myself into space
my head explodes
-strap a bomb to myself, detonate it
-smash my head against the computer terminal
I now have access to dead chat
MULAN BABY I'M COMING
-activate day shot
Shoot myself
Hurr durr let's infract people in a fucking game of mafia for toxicity because some shitlords decided to get their panties in a bunch over nothing
What a fucking cherry to put on top of the shit icing on this shit sandwich of a fucking joke of a game
BRING IT ON
-vote Varcron
You guys wanna know toxicity?
Jesus you're fucking weak
I really really really miss @Orpz . The last FM staff to know what he was fucking doing.
Hilarious that in a game of DECEPTION and MANIPULATION (including EMOTIONAL MANIPULATION) we are infracting people cause "their feelings are hurt"
Give me a fucking break.
Meanwhile the 2 shitlords that QUIT THE GAME over "twat" and "read the damn game" will go UNPUNISHED
Magellan Core no longer reading the thread
See ya in 178 hours, chief
Where is everyone
Ah, nobody knew when day starts. No one ever knows
Yesterday's day end timing was rather funny. I think Edoua was trying to type out a response when Bart was like, "Nope!"
Curious to what he has to say.
I'm not entirely convinced that Marck is scum. Inflexible, yes. Votes in wrong order, yes. Takes my posts and throws them out the window, yes, but that's like everyone else this game. He does vote more or less in alignment with town (me and Fred) which is far more than I can say for Lembird and Edoua.
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...l=1#post877285
I'd like for you all to do the exercise in this post. I would also really like your feedback in answering this question:
Why would Edoua withhold his vote?