S-FM 302: Magellan (15p)

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

@S-FM Joha Schtilzt

Unless the game ends with Wilberd and Mulan lynched. There is too much risk at keeping you alive.

What? You think I'm gonna actively work against town?

Lynching me is like lynching a confirmed citizen at this point.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

The day 1 lynch was your target??? and you did not out day 2 Ok i buy that but not outing day 3 IS scummy as hell

-vote S-FM Joha Schtilzt

I have faith that you'll come around, Fred.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

I'm done walking on eggshells. My votes in GL.

[S-FM Quinne]

The day 1 lynch was your target??? and you did not out day 2 Ok i buy that but not outing day 3 IS scummy as hell

-vote S-FM Joha Schtilzt

Better to lynch potentiall mafia and neutral evil roles before lynching neutral benign.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

The day 1 lynch was your target??? and you did not out day 2 Ok i buy that but not outing day 3 IS scummy as hell

-vote S-FM Joha Schtilzt

Fred, he's an uncountered benign neutral. Let him sit on ice for now. Mafia are priority.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

I have faith that you'll come around, Fred.

Why you not out day 3? your win con was already done all you had to do was live. We would have taken you with us to the end. We where looking for confirmed. Comming out now feels like you where wanting to side with mafia.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

I feel confident in the fact that we can formulate a plan to find the remaining mafia before there is a need to lynch me.

[S-FM Quinne]

Fred. Vote me or Mulan. then if game doesn't end lynch Wilberd. If game doesn't end then lynch Joha

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Ok Marlwyn is not co-operating with the widely agreed plan and derailing us into lynching some random benign neut so I am switching my vote to that part of the triclaim.
Lynch Marlwyn today and lynch Quinne tomorrow if the game is still going.

-vote S-FM Marlwyn Janson

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

Why you not out day 3? your win con was already done all you had to do was live. We would have taken you with us to the end. We where looking for confirmed. Comming out now feels like you where wanting to side with mafia.

From my perspective I did not gain anything from revealing day 3.

A town member would ask "Hey, why can't we lynch Joha instead of skipping? He's a neutral benign, he can turn against us" and then I burst into open flames and die.

Now town has enough information that I feel safe enough to reveal and not ever be the best option to be lynched. I did it as a sign of good faith and to narrow the options down.

If you believe that Quinne is sheriff, then Wilbird is confirmed Neutral Evil. It is literally that simple.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

Ok Marlwyn is not co-operating with the widely agreed plan and derailing us into lynching some random benign neut so I am switching my vote to that part of the triclaim.
Lynch Marlwyn today and lynch Quinne tomorrow if the game is still going.

-vote S-FM Marlwyn Janson

This vote makes me feel all tingly inside so I'll follow it instead of hammering someone

-vote S-FM Marlwyn Janson

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

bart and I have been on the same wavelength all game and it's honestly refreshing

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Vote needs to be on Joha we can not let go he did not out day 3 HE has to be today lynch no matter what.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Mafia will want to let Johna live to get him to side with them if Johna would have outed day 3 I would have gone to the end with him for outing today is just scummy and has to be the lynch today no matter what. best for town.

[S-FM Quinne]

Vote needs to be on Joha we can not let go he did not out day 3 HE has to be today lynch no matter what.

Please. Just trust Bart.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

If you believe that Quinne is sheriff, then Wilbird is confirmed Neutral Evil. It is literally that simple.

so why aren't we voting wilbird then?

joha should've claimed unless execut in this setup is dumb and has to survive to the end or something

Bounty Hunter: Your target must be lynched during the day. You must survive to the end of the game.

what the fuck

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

So lets discuss something here

Theoretically if Vlad hasn't already died or if we haven't already killed a mafia then the neutrals have a majority and the game could be over.

If we HAVE killed a mafia, today is... MYLO? Unless turncoat went neutral? Numbers are hard, especially when we don't have a list of dead people anywhere.

It comes down to a few variables

1. Is a reality where Quinne is telling the truth real, and Wilbird is NE?
2. Is Marlwyn scum?
3. Is Jan vlad or is Jan a roleblocked coroner

Wilbird as Neutral Evil makes sense. Getting all the coroners lynched, then lynching among sheriffs and easily winning the flipless game. That being said...

If Jan is a roleblocked coroner, which I believe because of my reads on both Jan and Vlad (apparently we can't count on the OoO to determine what should be an easily confirmed coroner slot), then Marlwyn cannot be scum: Fred claimed RBed too, and the Consort has only one charge. That would mean scum have two Consorts. They cannot have a scumchitect if they have two Consorts. Hence why Marlwyn is town in that world.
In that world, Rotholfo is also mayor who, for some unearthly reason, did not reveal and literally got lynched. Lol. That means there is not two, but one town support left alive. Marlwyn takes that spot. Therefore, Quinne is scum, and the Wilbird check hasn't really happened (which doesn't exclude the fact that Wilbird could be neutral evil).

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Mafia will want to let Johna live to get him to side with them if Johna would have outed day 3 I would have gone to the end with him for outing today is just scummy and has to be the lynch today no matter what. best for town.

This is not true Fred. Vote should be on the group that has a definite mafia not on a currently harmless neutral that can win with us and has no reason whatsoever to turn on us.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

ugh

whatever

im voting mulan, then quinne, then wilberd, then jona

-vote S-FM Marlwyn Janson

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

Wilbird as Neutral Evil makes sense. Getting all the coroners lynched, then lynching among sheriffs and easily winning the flipless game. That being said...

If Jan is a roleblocked coroner, which I believe because of my reads on both Jan and Vlad (apparently we can't count on the OoO to determine what should be an easily confirmed coroner slot), then Marlwyn cannot be scum: Fred claimed RBed too, and the Consort has only one charge. That would mean scum have two Consorts. They cannot have a scumchitect if they have two Consorts. Hence why Marlwyn is town in that world.
In that world, Rotholfo is also mayor who, for some unearthly reason, did not reveal and literally got lynched. Lol. That means there is not two, but one town support left alive. Marlwyn takes that spot. Therefore, Quinne is scum, and the Wilbird check hasn't really happened (which doesn't exclude the fact that Wilbird could be neutral evil).

Conclusion: If Jan was really coroner, then Marlwyn is town and Quinne is scum.

I believe Jan was really coroner, both because his CC was Vlad, whom I don't have any reason to townread, and because Jan was towny by himself. Therefore,

-vote S-FM Quinne

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

ugh

whatever

im voting mulan, then quinne, then wilberd, then jona

-vote S-FM Marlwyn Janson

i want to solve this stupid trifecta of claims, then deal with everyone else

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

This is not true Fred. Vote should be on the group that has a definite mafia not on a currently harmless neutral that can win with us and has no reason whatsoever to turn on us.

Literally treating him with contempt like this will make him turn on us.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Conclusion: If Jan was really coroner, then Marlwyn is town and Quinne is scum.

I believe Jan was really coroner, both because his CC was Vlad, whom I don't have any reason to townread, and because Jan was towny by himself. Therefore,

-vote S-FM Quinne

We're gonna lynch both mate if the game continues. It literally makes no difference.

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

We're gonna lynch both mate if the game continues. It literally makes no difference.

Why would the game end? I'm lost lol

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Why would the game end? I'm lost lol

If all the scum are dead

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

To be fair, I don't really want to wrap my head around this mechanical madness with holes in it, although I'm trying. But uh, be nice to Joha. I think everyone in this game got enough warnings, both from the host and from the players, to stop attacking people personally and swearing at them.

[S-FM Billigan Holbird]

If all the scum are dead

Why would all the scum be dead once Marlwyn dies? Who would be the other three scums (remember the neutral evil exists)

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

It's great! Now I AM THE WARNING!

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

It's great! Now I AM THE WARNING!

honestly at this point i don't think you should've claimed
for some god-forsaken reason you have to survive to the end to win

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

what if wilberd was softing this entire time by posting in the teal color which is commonly associated with neutrals

Lol!

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Why would all the scum be dead once Marlwyn dies? Who would be the other three scums (remember the neutral evil exists)

They're probably not, but they might be.
Rofllmao, Vlad probably were.
I doubt Jiles was but some people think he was Godfather.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

Alright what's going on. I'm so detached from this game from being prevented from posting by people rushing to skip.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

Alright what's going on. I'm so detached from this game from being prevented from posting by people rushing to skip.

I'm bounty hunter

Quinne says Wilbird is neutral

Thats about it other than petty squabbles

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Literally treating him with contempt like this will make him turn on us.

HE is not confirmed the good neutral. If he was Good Neutral he would have outed Day 3.. Or if he is Good Neutral if he was not sideing with town he would have outed day 3. If he had outed day 3 I would ride and die with him. But He litterly had no reson not to out day 3 unless he was wanting win with mafia.
The fact he did not out day 3 tell me one FACT: HE WILL FLIP ON TOWN. So he has to die. He also can be a mafia hiding as a Neutral. Any way you look at it we need him dead. for outing now not day 3. I would reather be lynched than him. Day 2 I wanted Vlad you all said No. now look at us. Vote Hiim or Vote me. I will not move my vote

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

HE is not confirmed the good neutral. If he was Good Neutral he would have outed Day 3.. Or if he is Good Neutral if he was not sideing with town he would have outed day 3. If he had outed day 3 I would ride and die with him. But He litterly had no reson not to out day 3 unless he was wanting win with mafia.
The fact he did not out day 3 tell me one FACT: HE WILL FLIP ON TOWN. So he has to die. He also can be a mafia hiding as a Neutral. Any way you look at it we need him dead. for outing now not day 3. I would reather be lynched than him. Day 2 I wanted Vlad you all said No. now look at us. Vote Hiim or Vote me. I will not move my vote

Fred

If I am not the good neutral, who is the good neutral? Wilbird? Why would he not have outed day 3?

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Also Quinne will never be taken to the final 4 So dont worry about Quinne lynch today.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

I have no contempt for fred. Fred is a nice guy.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

I also have a vest so I am not worried about Fred.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Fred

If I am not the good neutral, who is the good neutral? Wilbird? Why would he not have outed day 3?

You are basing the fact that Quinne is real. We dont know that. Also Real Neutral could be dead. Who knows. One fact I do know we are in real bad shape. You not outing Day 3 put us in that. If we lynch a town today and have not hit a real mafia. we can lose today as town. One fact that Town does not lose is to lynch you. Becuse you are not Pro town. Outing today and not day 3 was bad. We Told NB to out day 3 or when you do you will be lynched. I am keeping that promise today.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

If you are town Vote Joha if not vote who ever you want. But if we lose It is on you.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Marllwin will not be taken to final 4 either town. Mechanically this is towns best lynch today.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Joha is you are the read NB sorry but I do not belive you. And today you need to die.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

You are basing the fact that Quinne is real. We dont know that. Also Real Neutral could be dead. Who knows. One fact I do know we are in real bad shape. You not outing Day 3 put us in that. If we lynch a town today and have not hit a real mafia. we can lose today as town. One fact that Town does not lose is to lynch you. Becuse you are not Pro town. Outing today and not day 3 was bad. We Told NB to out day 3 or when you do you will be lynched. I am keeping that promise today.

Who in the graveyard do you think would be the real neutral benign and why? This doesn't make sense.

If you lynch me you are GOING to lose. It's not technically confirmed yet, but you WILL lose. I am one of the few active players right now.

Lynching me does not place you in a better position to win the game. It is effectively a waste of your time.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

Joha is you are the read NB sorry but I do not belive you. And today you need to die.

Who is the real NB then

[S-FM Quinne]

Why are people still so thrown with mechanics.

Joha. Fred used their shot.
Bill. Jan was Vlad.
Fred. Vote Me/Mulan->wilberd->Joha.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

You are basing the fact that Quinne is real. We dont know that. Also Real Neutral could be dead. Who knows. One fact I do know we are in real bad shape. You not outing Day 3 put us in that. If we lynch a town today and have not hit a real mafia. we can lose today as town. One fact that Town does not lose is to lynch you. Becuse you are not Pro town. Outing today and not day 3 was bad. We Told NB to out day 3 or when you do you will be lynched. I am keeping that promise today.

Yeah, I'm inclined to vote Joha right now, will need to reread because this situation seems like a turning point.

Fuck your arrogance and fuck you.

I don't NEED to help town. I don't give a shit about town. I give a shit about me.

Work on your attitude and I'll consider playing another game with you.

This kind of line gives me no confidence Joha is playing as pro-town. Being too detached as neutral makes me believe he is neutral, but being detached also means he's not going to give a when things go south. Meanwhile, I'm detached because I was prevented from doing my job reading and posting.

I'll liven up in a bit.

[S-FM Quinne]

They're probably not, but they might be.
Rofllmao, Vlad probably were.
I doubt Jiles was but some people think he was Godfather.

Who, how, and why? This is major important. Either a paranoid town or a misleading scum.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

Why are people still so thrown with mechanics.

Joha. Fred used their shot.
Bill. Jan was Vlad.
Fred. Vote Me/Mulan->wilberd->Joha.

Lmao fred could totally be fucking with us

[S-FM Quinne]

Marllwin will not be taken to final 4 either town. Mechanically this is towns best lynch today.

Lynching me or Mulan is better option. Then go for neutrals if game doesn't end. Then if game does end GL. Go find someone to study and read as town. Use Vlad as your speaking point.

[S-FM Joha Schtilzt]

Yeah, I'm inclined to vote Joha right now, will need to reread because this situation seems like a turning point.



This kind of line gives me no confidence Joha is playing as pro-town. Being too detached as neutral makes me believe he is neutral, but being detached also means he's not going to give a when things go south. Meanwhile, I'm detached because I was prevented from doing my job reading and posting.

I'll liven up in a bit.

Have I been anti-town up to this point?

I have been playing this game exactly as I would with a citizen. On day 2 I actually forgot I was a bounty hunter no joke

I have actually no choice this game but to play with town as I will have no idea how many scum are in the game at a given moment, since our coroners are dead.