S-FM 204: Insanity

[ThePaladin]

This is true, but if we imagine for a moment that theres no chance im a lunatic, and that my feedback is correct, then we have 2 ML claims, so one or both are lunatics (of course they BOTH could be MLs, but thats less likely).

YZB has come out and directly claimed ML, a risky move given that it would likely be a unique role, and one possibly in the game with the threat of a cult faction. Which im speculating exists given the ratios of town to scum and the any random fields. So I BELIEVE that YZB recieved the ML card at game start.

My detection is a 50/25/25, with 50 for cit. Given I didnt recieve cit, that leaves 50/50 for role or card role. We know that the role card can be the true role, so my detection is broken into 3 possible outcomes. True role revealed, role card being legit - true role revealed, role card being lunatic - true role not revealed. thats a 66% chance that Taek is actual ML vs a 33% hes a lunatic.

When comparing the two, its more likely based on my feedback that Taek is the ML and that yzb is the lunatic ML. I also believe the one of the MLs is a cultist leader from speculating, and so I believe that YZB is a cultist/occultist leader believing hes ML.

Of course if Taek doesnt claim ML, then there is a possibility im a lunatic. Which if I were a lunatic would lend me to the possibility of being a scum role, but also a different town role.

Subnote, my math may be wrong here, correct me if im wrong.

THEY CAN'T BOTH BE ML

Mason Leader
-Unique Role-
At night you may attempt to convert someone. Turning them into a mason if they are a citizen.
You may instead purge someone, killing them if they are a Occultist, Cultist, or Jester
You know who the other masons are.
You can not be converted

ITS UNIQUE

[RLVG]

Unless you mean irl in which case I cannot confirm nor deny.

Damn, close enough.

[ThePaladin]

I guess I just wanna make sure our town is being good and taking the time to read each post, y'know? Rather than taking other people's word at face value, y'know?

Ah well. There's probably nothing in d1 that completely nullifies this entire discussion about me.

No /s so I guess there isn't since you aren't pointing it out.

[yzb25]

This is true, but if we imagine for a moment that theres no chance im a lunatic, and that my feedback is correct, then we have 2 ML claims, so one or both are lunatics (of course they BOTH could be MLs, but thats less likely).

YZB has come out and directly claimed ML, a risky move given that it would likely be a unique role, and one possibly in the game with the threat of a cult faction. Which im speculating exists given the ratios of town to scum and the any random fields. So I BELIEVE that YZB recieved the ML card at game start.

My detection is a 50/25/25, with 50 for cit. Given I didnt recieve cit, that leaves 50/50 for role or card role. We know that the role card can be the true role, so my detection is broken into 3 possible outcomes. True role revealed, role card being legit - true role revealed, role card being lunatic - true role not revealed. thats a 66% chance that Taek is actual ML vs a 33% hes a lunatic.

When comparing the two, its more likely based on my feedback that Taek is the ML and that yzb is the lunatic ML. I also believe the one of the MLs is a cultist leader from speculating, and so I believe that YZB is a cultist/occultist leader believing hes ML.

Of course if Taek doesnt claim ML, then there is a possibility im a lunatic. Which if I were a lunatic would lend me to the possibility of being a scum role, but also a different town role.

Subnote, my math may be wrong here, correct me if im wrong.

Damn.

-unvote

[Iced_Monopoly]

THEY CAN'T BOTH BE ML

Mason Leader
-Unique Role-
At night you may attempt to convert someone. Turning them into a mason if they are a citizen.
You may instead purge someone, killing them if they are a Occultist, Cultist, or Jester
You know who the other masons are.
You can not be converted

ITS UNIQUE

aight, well I wasnt factoring it in anyways, but good pickup

[ThePaladin]

RLVG I HAD AN IDEA.

Check me again and if you recieve different feedback I am framed or you are a lunatic.

Together, we can solve world hunger.

[Unknown1234]

If Gyrlander didn't soft claim Escort, that means there are three people claiming to be roleblocked. Logic?

[RLVG]

aight, well I wasnt factoring it in anyways, but good pickup

Everyone knows ML is unique.

[yzb25]

Damn.

-unvote

What makes you think there's an ML-CL, does it look pretty?

I get that, but... That's a little flimsy mah man.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Aaaaand Taek claims not being ML. Can you share with us who you visited last night?

[ThePaladin]

Damn.

-unvote

Hey you voted ice before he made the post referring to his lead. That means that this post can't negate your original reasoning.

CHECKMATE SCUM.

[RLVG]

RLVG I HAD AN IDEA.

Check me again and if you recieve different feedback I am framed or you are a lunatic.

Together, we can solve world hunger.

ThePaladin confirmed China, RLVG confirmed USA.

Force the Chinese to labor for food!



I think it's a good idea, but don't forget that feedback might be the same based on RNG.

[ThePaladin]

Everyone knows ML is unique.

Where do I meet this everyone guy?

[Iced_Monopoly]

Everyone knows ML is unique.

Yeah I look like an idiot, I got that already, pls stop rubbing it in

[RLVG]

Where do I meet this everyone guy?

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[ThePaladin]

ThePaladin confirmed China, RLVG confirmed USA.

Force the Chinese to labor for food!



I think it's a good idea, but don't forget that feedback might be the same based on RNG.

Yes but we have a 50% chance on knowing based on rng.

Lunatic feedback does actually use rng and not host discretion correcT?

[ThePaladin]

If a person who visits the same person and has a dichomatic night action such as if a person is scum or not as a sheriff?
If they recieve that role as a lunatic will they always recieve the same feedback when visiting that person or can it differ based upon randomness.

[yzb25]

Hey you voted ice before he made the post referring to his lead. That means that this post can't negate your original reasoning.

CHECKMATE SCUM.

I'm really just not sure at this point, y'know? I need time to muse...

[ThePaladin]

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I don't get it what's that way?

[ThePaladin]

I'm really just not sure at this point, y'know? I need time to muse...

Or are you just trying to distance yyourself from your target since I called you out on being executioner?

I mean you must have been pretty sure to try to get other people to vote him. Why the sudden change of heart?

[RLVG]

I don't get it what's that way?

"Right". :troll:

[ThePaladin]

"Right". :troll:

Actually I have my display flipped. That way's left.

[yzb25]

Shouldn't the day have ended by now?

Curious.

[ThePaladin]

Shouldn't the day have ended by now?

Curious.

WHY YOU WANT DAY TO END WHEN WE ARE PRESSURING YOU PUNK

[RLVG]

Actually I have my display flipped. That way's left.

Are you reading in reverse? ::

[yzb25]

Or are you just trying to distance yyourself from your target since I called you out on being executioner?

I mean you must have been pretty sure to try to get other people to vote him. Why the sudden change of heart?

Bro, I never explained why I voted him in the first place, do you think I'm gonna explain the lift?

You normalfags aren't worthy of my god-tier reasoning, tbh.

[ThePaladin]

Are you reading in reverse? ::

Maybe I have auto-translate to Arabic turned on.

Don't judge me.




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[ThePaladin]

Bro, I never explained why I voted him in the first place, do you think I'm gonna explain the lift?

You normalfags aren't worthy of my god-tier reasoning, tbh.

So you wanted people to vote him with you but you didn't even have reasoning to explain?

CAN YOU BE MORE EXECUTIONERY?

[yzb25]

WHY YOU WANT DAY TO END WHEN WE ARE PRESSURING YOU PUNK

NR. I don't really care if it ended half an hour early.

It's not like we're doing anything productive. Even when I fucking bait for 3/4 hours the spineless town still fails to respond.

If you still haven't learned after d1, maybe you'll learn after d2. If this town can never learn, then I can't help that >

[RLVG]

Maybe I have auto-translate to Arabic turned on.

Don't judge me.

You don't read latin lettered based posts backwards. ::

[secondpassing]

I'm on a phone. Will get to the other stuff when I'm off work.

First things first: Taekyon 's nickname is definitely kyon-kyon instead of Taek

[secondpassing]

Can we CHOO CHOO yet?

[RLVG]

NR. I don't really care if it ended half an hour early.

It's not like we're doing anything productive. Even when I fucking bait for 3/4 hours the spineless town still fails to respond.

If you still haven't learned after d1, maybe you'll learn after d2. If this town can never learn, then I can't help that >

Personally I'm happy with another no-lynch to figure out our roles.

[ThePaladin]

You don't read latin lettered based posts backwards. ::

But when you translate to arabic you read arabic right to left. GET :: SCRUB

[Iced_Monopoly]

Aaaaand Taek claims not being ML. Can you share with us who you visited last night?

I should probably tag you in this since its easy to overlook. @Taekyon . I would ask for the role you recieved, as it may help with speculation, but I dont know if thats justified yet...

If its a role that is easily confirmable, ie escort, then I would assume that I am in fact the lunatic, however if its something that is hard to confirm or requires little effort, like citizen, then I would assume you are the lunatic.

[ThePaladin]

Can we CHOO CHOO yet?

Choo choo on yzb25.

He wanted to get people to vote iced without explaining reasoning and even refused to.

We also have a pseudo-lead from iced saying that taekyon is a ml.

[yzb25]

So you wanted people to vote him with you but you didn't even have reasoning to explain?

CAN YOU BE MORE EXECUTIONERY?

I wanted you all to put me on l-1, and then when people ask for last words / a last defense, I'd explain that I was doing this to demonstrate I would rather I was lynched than a no-lynch, because progress comes above all else. I still stick to the principles I touted on d1.

But even when I literally try to act scummy this town still does nothing.

Seriously, has the lunatic mechanic made everyone this docile? It's ridiculous. We're literally getting extra time and you still aren't lynching.

Fucking hell, please let town learn by d3.

[RLVG]

But when you translate to arabic you read arabic right to left. GET :: SCRUB

I thought you were german.

[ThePaladin]

I thought you were german.

Ich bin Mensch, scrub.

[yzb25]

Personally I'm happy with another no-lynch to figure out our roles.

Of course you fucking are

If you are scum rolecard, you're feeling satisfied that we're doing fucking nothing
If you are sheriff rolecard, you have a feeling of progress from figuring out your checks.

BUT THE REST OF US THAT DON'T KNOW WHICH OF THE ABOVE YOU ARE DO NOT SHARE THAT FEELING T_T

[ThePaladin]

I wanted you all to put me on l-1, and then when people ask for last words / a last defense, I'd explain that I was doing this to demonstrate I would rather I was lynched than a no-lynch, because progress comes above all else. I still stick to the principles I touted on d1.

But even when I literally try to act scummy this town still does nothing.

Seriously, has the lunatic mechanic made everyone this docile? It's ridiculous. We're literally getting extra time and you still aren't lynching.

Fucking hell, please let town learn by d3.

HE WANTS TO BE LYNCHED.

EVEN IF HE IS JESTER KING WE MUST STOP HIM BEFORE HE MAKES A JESTER ARMY.

[RLVG]

Seriously, has the lunatic mechanic made everyone this docile? It's ridiculous. We're literally getting extra time and you still aren't lynching.

This is better than that game where I was a tailor with another tailor, we tailored eachothers Cult and I tailored everyone else as Cult, the enemy was also two tailors and did the exact same thing.
Town was too fucked up mentally.

[yzb25]

Has daytime been extended by 24 hours?

[Unknown1234]

Has daytime been extended by 24 hours?

It was announced many times.

[RLVG]

HE WANTS TO BE LYNCHED.

EVEN IF HE IS JESTER KING WE MUST STOP HIM BEFORE HE MAKES A JESTER ARMY.

The question is if the Jester King steals the victory.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Has daytime been extended by 24 hours?

Yes, this was answered by host earlier. I believe the D2 start post was updated to reflect this.

[yzb25]

This is better than that game where I was a tailor with another tailor, we tailored eachothers Cult and I tailored everyone else as Cult, the enemy was also two tailors and did the exact same thing.
Town was too fucked up mentally.

Lol. Always look on the bright side I guess.

HE WANTS TO BE LYNCHED.

EVEN IF HE IS JESTER KING WE MUST STOP HIM BEFORE HE MAKES A JESTER ARMY.

Jesus christ, this is why you need to read d1! Didn't you see that rant I went on in 609?

Whatever, you're just giving me ammunition for when we confirm RLVG is insane sheriff / fucking impossible to depend on.

[yzb25]

It was announced many times.

And I missed all of them.

That's swell. I'll go to bed contented in that case.

In light of this, I'll do something a little more... productive... tomorrow.

Cya

[ThePaladin]

Lol. Always look on the bright side I guess.



Jesus christ, this is why you need to read d1! Didn't you see that rant I went on in 609?

Whatever, you're just giving me ammunition for when we confirm RLVG is insane sheriff / fucking impossible to depend on.

QUOTE THE POSTS NOT THE POST NUMBERS FFS.

Hey did you hear when I scumslipped on post 3?

[Taekyon]

I should probably tag you in this since its easy to overlook. @Taekyon . I would ask for the role you recieved, as it may help with speculation, but I dont know if thats justified yet...

If its a role that is easily confirmable, ie escort, then I would assume that I am in fact the lunatic, however if its something that is hard to confirm or requires little effort, like citizen, then I would assume you are the lunatic.

Give me another night to verify my role (First one wasn't fruitful unfortunately)
The next day, I will gladly confirm your role by asking my target what feedback they received.
In case I die tonight, my true role being revealed tomorrow will also help you.
Win-Win situation.