Bakemir that is the most ridiculous and fun chart I've ever seen posted in Mafia before. Covid mesk is gold.
I'd be willing to give your other scumreads a look if it means that you'll reconsider your townreads. Off of D1 Martin didn't seem that scummy to me but it's possible I missed something.
You voted him for a reason I didn't agree with, I'm guessing you found more that solidified that read after the fact?
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A few things:
1. Ignoring that you're not going to fix what I took out of context isn't going to help you. I mentioned this in my case, and have yet to see a specific example where I took things out of context as per your words.
2.Same could be said for you if you're scum....
3.My LW was legitimately my wall post attacking you, and had nothing to do with my role at all because if I died n1 then the townies could collect whatever information they needed from it after seeing my role. Especially since the setup distinguishes Virus and Wolf kills.
4.This doesn't really make you any townier, with up to 9 possible targets for scum, there can be many reasons to target different people based on how they want to the long game to play out. Unfortunately for you, this is a game capable WIFOM, so its entirely possible you selected Auwt for your purposes here.
5.That's a preety big blanket statement since you, oh i don't know, interacted with a lot of people.
6.How do you know you were going to be a day target for mafia? Because I'm scum and voted you? What about the "lynch proof" state you setup earlier on D1? Suddenly having a lack of faith in it or did you never believe it was "lynch proof"?
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Reason being that if I'm not scum and I feel bakemir to not be scum, using your chart as a guide (and under the assumption that your not scum*) it seems the logical place to check.
*That is, I'll give you a pass for now because I'm a sucker for effortposting
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I feel Martin to not be scum*
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1. You are only doing this to make yourself look townier because if you were to have a different meta on D2 then others would think scum of you. All your actions are based on what will others think about you. This only comes from non-town position.[/COLOR]
2. [COLOR="#FFA500"Well then how about you get off me? You have been tunneling me since day one. Is this how you contribute to town? Only bakermir is scum for you? Oh and maybe ZEDUS? Right bro. keep tunneling and you will only see me fighting back.[/COLOR]
3. This is a lie. You didn't copy/paste your LW but instead giving this story shows you are lying and have been caught off guard.
4. ANOTHER LIE! I only have 3 scums in my list. It remains the same. If you have questions about my chart, I repeat, I can explain them all. IT is based on D1 reads and uses indicators that might be helpful for town. Also Auwt was living now dead proof that he was honest about me and my LW shows I was honest about him.
5. I didn't interact with a lot of people. However, I did just enough to get myself on plate and get cooked. I expected a hungry wolf to jump on me and guess what? Two of them did.
6. I had all the reason to believe I was lynch proof and guess what? I AM STILL LYNCH PROOF. If you don't like it then go ahead tunnel me like a smoothbrain or actually start working on finding the scums.
7. making points prove you are just frustrated but trying to look legit. just like your useless posting of vote count right after your propaganda post. you are scum all around and I have no reason to believe anything you say until you stop tunneling and start being productive for town.
If you think my tone or energy was scum then thats on you Martin. I have enough believers. You can remain an opposition and I would appreciate if you prove me wrong with the people I trust in this game. However, you have been using your energy only on me.
Tell me why should I take you serious?
Oh whoops I am an idiot.
I'm honestly suspicious of those that read me as town. I've barely done anything to show that I'm towny.
Like Mike asked someone earlier, better evidence please. It feels like pocketing and TMI.
I was honestly concerned with the two slots replacement thinking about a possibility where one of them could be scum and that we will have hard time figuring it out.
But then I realized lynching the inactives would be bad for town because of little information we will get from their death. Auwt made me realize this later on. Call it a newbie mistake from my part. I am still having traumas from Dallarian/DW
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i honestly thought they would share discord during the day. I had a misunderstanding of the whole mafia chat and kinda confused myself with what happened in my last game then later i realized that was only a day game. I can go smoothbrain sometimes too and I was honest in my confusion regarding mafia chat. But if you wanna call me scum on that, I won't stop you. I am known to make newbie mistakes. Remember the lynch/trial shit I pulled in our first game. I do that weird stuff and I am learning still
Ren did you just scumread zedus but not bakemir for the same thing?
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Or is this the standard tunnel?
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I am town. Take it or leave it friends.
I have posted a part of my LW too. rest is just me explaining the chart anyway. I can post that too, yall can lynch me. I will flip town and then another town gets shot and maybe few people die to virus meanwhile. Town is doomed if you follow scum's lead on me.
Also, I am quite sure the sooner I am not lynched, I will be a night target anyway assuming they didn't consig on me.
One of reasons why i think you are scum is because you were so quick to just want to toss the afks to the lynch train.. I come more to the conclusion that a more active player replacing the slots would be far more beneficial. Leaving the top 2 plays from the top two trains day 1 (bake + DM) is far more detrimental from my pov. I see you being easily told that in a night chat to cover up some of the mistakes you made D1.
This isn't where i parked my car.....
Works both ways Blink, don't paint it any other way.
My champs game:
D1 lynch is a jack of all trades afk player.
We decided lynching afks was bad and and a very scummy but almost entirely afk player is replaced by a high activity ones who effortposts 3 days straight right into the towncore.
He was scum.
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1. Once again, a WIFOM statement.
2. Hey even if you aren't scum you're sure acting anti-town with the amount of "play" and speculative information you're giving out. And I am fighting on this.
3. @AIVION is it alright if I directly quote a PM I sent from a previous game on this website? I would like to share with bakermir one of the LW's I sent in my first game to SuperJack to show I do make my cases in my LW's.
4. You're misinterpreting my post here. It had nothing to do with your reads list. Rather, the wolf team can be composed of 3 people, each of them have needs such as getting town read. Its entirely possible they or you killed Auwt for different reasons, or for the reason to create your conflict here. Notice that my first D2 post hasn't taken advantage of his death while your first post of D2 did?
5. You interacted with, off the top of my head: MM, Mike, Auwt, Zedus, Dark Magician, Frinckles, MartinGG99, Renegade....the list goes on. A quick look at your ISO shows you responding to and reacting to preety much everyone here.
6.Can't be a day target if you're lynch proof. Also, not that I cover personal attacks, but its going to be sad if you're scum and are taken down by a "smoothbrain" (I'm assuming it isn't a compliment). Also, being "lynch proof" doesn't prevent me from proving you're plausibly scum.
7.I'm not frustrated, I'm confident. That's what I am.
You're tone wasn't problematic -- your content was. You still haven't evaluated my case which mostly shows me disagreeing with your actions rather than tone.
"I have enough believers" -- bakermir the open wolf, August of 2020.
Your alignment in truth isn't determined by how many believe you.
Also, if you can't take me seriously because I made a case as town then I'm really not sure how this game will work for you as others will make cases too on whoever they vote for. I'm guessing you can't take it seriously since you're the one who is being attacked, and therefore subject to bias.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Oh my god what is with these pride parade responses, Joseph with the multicolor dreamcoat, use quote break!
my mistakes are in the line of not being familiar to some FM mechanics. just like the "trial vote" in my first game. I am still trying my best to not look at this game from sc2mod perspective. Auwt helped me there so thanks to them I guess.
My chart is based on techniques I use when I play any game similar to FM or sc2mod. It uses indicators such as who voted who, reads key words(post it notes), behaviour, position and most importantly the heat map a.k.a who are most possible lynch/kill targets based on their involvement. I can elaborate on all of that.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
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I call it how i see it, fmpov the way bake wanted to toss up the afks rather than solve DM and himself was wolfy. Also you can't compare a champs game to an sc2 mafia one imo lol. If i were a wolf here subbing in and effort post my way into the towncore and win, i think that would be a well deserved win.
This isn't where i parked my car.....
Out of game context:
Hmm. It appears that I am missing my n1 LW from that game. I may have been too distracted being mentored by Frog and talking about it with him to send an LW, or maybe I forgot. But I do have a Word document of it, just never sent it to SuperJack.
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Originally Posted by MartinGG99
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
On the topic of Mike i have no idea what Mike was trying to pull day 1 lol. None of it made sense to me from a town or scum pov. I could see himself as virus trying to bait people to him, that's about it tho =\
This isn't where i parked my car.....
Fine. I'll try to tone down the colors and use quote break.
I'm just so used to acting as I played on MU, and they didn't really have a "quote break" feature iirc and you had to do them manually. I understand them easily to do it myself, but it just feels more efficient to color and highlight.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
and i find you insincere with this post.
I have no reason to trust Frinckles. I am not going to reveal what I think anymore either. I have exposed myself way too much to possible scum team in my head and I am not going to play their game.
and yes I agree on effort posting part. I never understood why would be auto-assumed to be a towny thing. This way of thinking has no basis and actually feels scum to me to auto-town people who do effort posting.
Really? How did you feel about his hard "im not shaman" claim?
I had some opinions on it that I shared before where I thought it was a rather smart and safe move to do early game, presuming him as town (which I do believe right now).
The rest I just figured was his playstyle or personality.
Then again, this is my first time playing with him.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Yes glad you are in the game blink. But when I am town you are normally scum. I agree with you post here I don’t believe you are most likely wolf but have high equity to be virus. If you are town then we are both town and we can lead the town to victory. But I am not going to disregard you possible being virus in till I see that virus flip. But if you are town and fingers crossed you are blink let’s that this town to the winners circle.
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Wow we're more advanced than MU. We did it fam. Thank you @aamirus
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This isn't where i parked my car.....
My post was this:
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Oh, and I do know I suggested that TPR hunting here wasn't scummy, but I covered that in my case earlier. It was simply two separate thoughts clashing in a weird way from a stream of consciousness.
I guess the point I took most from it is that he acted as bait which generated discussion. And if bakermir is scum, then this furthers my point, imo.
Also that I don't easily conceive of this being an early post by either of the scum alignments (Virus/Wolf). I think it's more likely to be from town rather than scum.
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