Account Name: SHEGOTAIDS (doctor)
Account ID: 1-s2-1-5256731
In-Game Name: FUCK FUBBY
account name:TRUMPREICH (veteran)
Account ID: 1-s2-1-511737
In-Game Name: Napoleon the Trustworthy
Crimes Committed: Game-Throwing
Your Account Name: intaro (lookout)
Summary:so i was lookout then was reading chat and notice
some people lie or don't behave normal .
i try convince town about it but i got lynched by 11 and 13
then all the town followed the vote....
they are veteran and doctor so they did by purpose and gamethrow ; result
the town lost.
okay i not know who else was town but those just said lynch 7 and
all the town voted.
i don't know who is town and voted but they should also have a punishment as gametrhowers .
since the accusation came out of thin air and i clearly stated my role and lw.
now TRUMPREICH use 3 accounts to play 3 computer in a lan
of course the 3 do nazi propaganda ;
look the screenshots
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Re: [GAMETHROWER] 1-s2-1-5256731 SHEGOTAIDS & 1-s2-1-511737 TRUMPREICH
SC ID VERIFICATION
SHEGOTAids: Correct: 1-S2-1-5256731
TRUMPREICH: Correct: 1-S2-1-511737
Players Added to Report
N/A
Respective Hotkeys
SHEGOTAids: CTRL + 1
TRUMPREICH: 8
Was the Game Result altered?
Yes, Town lost.
Previous Offenses
SHEGOTAids: Role-Quitting (On-Hold)
TRUMPREICH: Griefing (On-Hold)
Player Offenses
SHEGOTAids: None (Trolling or very minor Griefing but not enough to punish)
TRUMPREICH: Griefing
Summary
TRUMPREICH receives the role Veteran in Slot 13.
SHEGOTAids roles Doctor in Slot 11.
D2 6 claims detective and accuses 1 of having visited 5 who had been killed N1. 1 gets lynched, flips Witch.
D3 6 claims vet and says that he is confirmed now because he killed the BD (BD got killed by SK). 8 calls him out on that and says 6 is jester. 7 says that 6 must be lying and wants to vote him up.
13 (TRUMPREICH) then asks 8 for a role and town votes 8 up when he doesn’t answer. 8 refuses to share his role and gets lynched, he was Doctor.
7 repeatedly insults 13, who then starts spamming „PAUSE FOR 7“.
D4 13 keeps spamming „PAUSE FOR 7“. 7 wants to lynch 13, but 11(SHEGOTAids) starts spamming „LYNCH 7“ and 7 gets voted up. He claims lookout and shares his lw but gets voted guilty anyways (13 is just spamming, 11 said „dont care“ „ur a fag“).
D5 13 is the last townie. He spams „MESK IS A TRANNY“. 6 (Witch) and 15(DH) lynch him, Triad won.
SHEGOTAids:
While this player was trolling, spamming and not trying to win at all, I don’t think it was his fault that town lost. He followed 13 and kept randoming, but he was still healing players every night and overall, just played very poorly. Since this is borderline and the first time that he got reported for Griefing/Game-Throwing I’m gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and ignore this.
TRUMPREICH:
This player excessively spammed throughout the whole game and never showed any interest in trying to win the game (except for when he asked 8 for a role maybe, but there was no real reason to trial 8 that day). He made it impossible for town to win with his constant spamming, especially after D2.
This is TRUMPREICH’s second offense of Griefing, the recommended punishment for that is 2x Watch-List, which is what I recommend here.
The Chatlog of TRUMPREICH:
Spoiler : Chat :
Recommended Action
SHEGOTAids: Ignore
TRUMPREICH: 2x Watch-List
Additional Notes
Thank you for this report!Last edited by Veri; December 10th, 2016 at 12:37 AM. Reason: Put the Chatlog in a spoiler, this was annoying
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Re: SHEGOTAids:1-S2-1-5256731; TRUMPREICH: 1-S2-1-511737
I didn't know I was a tranny....
Originally Posted by AnassRhamur
Spoiler : :
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Re: SHEGOTAids:1-S2-1-5256731; TRUMPREICH: 1-S2-1-511737
1-S2-1-511737 2x watch list
-edit. Upgraded to 6x for chronic griefing
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...-1-S2-1-511737Last edited by Helz; December 8th, 2016 at 09:57 PM.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
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Re: SHEGOTAids:1-S2-1-5256731; TRUMPREICH: 1-S2-1-511737
Bonjours les amis,
I want to appeal this report on numerous grounds.
1. As knowing Veri's bias against me I would like another Keeper to process this report please.
2. 13 (TRUMPREICH) then asks 8 for a role and town votes 8 up when he doesn’t answer. 8 refuses to share his role and gets lynched, he was Doctor.
7 repeatedly insults 13, who then starts spamming „PAUSE FOR 7“
Why is this even relevant ?
3. It is normal to behave badly when you are veteran so killing visits you. Killing roles love to visit spammers.
4. He made it impossible for town to win with his constant spamming, especially after D2.
This proves veri's bias against me. Town was already way screwed by that time.
5. Im not responsible for 11 following my actions, maybe he knows im phamous and all.
6. I had a blank slate before Veri's report. Please consider this.
7. I still love Mesk even with what I know now.
8. You can't ignore 11 and punish me Veri, this is obvious bias. He acted similar to me and just because I wasnt Doc I get the punishment.
9. I propose that Veri loses her Keeper status for obvious reasons.
Thank you,
IMPHAMOUS TRUMPERINOREICH 卐卐卐卐[B] Originally Posted by DarknessB
Originally Posted by Villageliu
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Re: SHEGOTAids:1-S2-1-5256731; TRUMPREICH: 1-S2-1-511737
Review of Appeal:
Nothing wrong with asserting bias so long as there's actual substantiation, in which case, we'd look into the issue. Merely being reported by another player (especially one who files many reports) or having a reports processed against you be a Keeper (especially one who processes many reports) isn't bias. Originally Posted by gotrumpgo
This seems to be the Keeper's assessment of what caused Trumpreich to begin his spamming -- it's relevant in terms of providing context on what prompted the problematic behavior in the first place. Originally Posted by gotrumpgo
While this appears to be Trumpreich's defense to the Griefing allegation, it is not particularly persuasive given the extent of spamming that took place -- i.e. there's a difference between trying to draw visitors as a Veteran (mind you, you have no clue whether Town or Mafia will visit you) and spamming to disrupt the game. This arguably crossed the line into the latter category. Originally Posted by gotrumpgo
This is objectively not true based on the number of Town players vs. scum players left. Very few 9-3-3 games are over by the end of Day 2. Originally Posted by gotrumpgo
This is off-topic given the spamming which occured by Trumpreich -- 11's behavior was not relevant to the finding of Griefing here. Originally Posted by gotrumpgo
This is also irrelevant (punishments are considered based on previous offenses) and factually incorrect (given the number of reports that have been filed against Trumpreich recently). Originally Posted by gotrumpgo
An off-topic joke. Originally Posted by gotrumpgo
This was a judgment call of the Keeper based on the relative amounts of spamming that each player committed during the game. The log clearly shows that Trumpreich spammed well in excess of #11. Also, players don't have standing to appeal findings (or lack of findings) against other players. The Keeper clearly explained why Griefing was found in one case and not the other. Originally Posted by gotrumpgo
This is irrelevant to the report in question and to the extent that it's not a joke by Trumpreich, it is retaliation merely because Veri has been processing some of the reports against him. At the very least, it shows clear animus on his part against Veri, which is not the purpose of an appeal. Originally Posted by gotrumpgo
Overall, this is a fairly frivolous appeal given the offense in question (Griefing by means of overspamming the game). Obviously, it should be denied, and in connection with Trumpreich's having appealed a number of reports against him, thought should be given to increasing the punishment here, especially given the number of off-topic / attack points made. Originally Posted by gotrumpgo
Last edited by DarknessB; December 9th, 2016 at 11:46 PM.
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Re: 222 SHEGOTAids:1-S2-1-5256731; TRUMPREICH: 1-S2-1-511737
Summary review of game itself:
Players
- ClutchPause: 6 (Witch)
- FakeLWpro 15 (Dragon Head)
- TRUMPREICH: 13 (Veteran)
- SHEGOTAids: 11 (Doctor)
Day 2: 6 accuses and votes 1 -- 13 and 15 proceed to vote 1 as well. 11 doesn’t vote (1 was voted up to trial pretty fast). All four (13, 11, 6, and 15) vote guilty.
Day 3: 8 accuses 6; in response 13, 11, and 15 vote 8 up and guilty him. 6 says guilty but doesn’t vote. 7 tried to vote 6 up.
Day 4: 11 and 13 spam to get 7. 13, 11, 6, and 15 vote 7 as soon as discussion time is over and all four (13, 11, 6, and 15) guilty him even though 7 claims Lookout and has a legitimate Last Will.
Day 5: 11 is dead, 6 (Witch) and 15 (Dragon Head) lynch 13 (out of necessity). The result is a Triad/Witch win.
This game was extremely suspect given all four players voted together the whole game and were defending each other. In particular:
Day 3: 8 accused 6 (in the group). This leads to 11, 13, and 15 immediately vote 8 up. 7 voted 6 that day.
Day 4: 7 wanted to get 13 (in the group). This leads to all four (13, 11, 6, and 15) voting 7 up as fast as possible.Last edited by DarknessB; December 10th, 2016 at 12:22 AM.
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Re: 222 SHEGOTAids:1-S2-1-5256731; TRUMPREICH: 1-S2-1-511737
Additional punishments recorded here https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...keLWpro-thread
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
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Re: 222 SHEGOTAids:1-S2-1-5256731; TRUMPREICH: 1-S2-1-511737
needed a post so account would unlock sorry everybody.
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