S-FM 215: Inside Job

[MattZed]

the fact that everyone besides unknown took a stab at it is hilarious.

Unknown must be scum, clearly. Shame on him.

[PowersThatBe]

Can we vote dragon now?

[PowersThatBe]

Also, if @MattZed and @Mesk514 are not going to push my lynch, could you kindly unvote? You're putting me in a precarious position.

[MattZed]

Also, if @MattZed and @Mesk514 are not going to push my lynch, could you kindly unvote? You're putting me in a precarious position.

tbh, I got kinda complacent after I realized I wasn't getting lynched today and that me+yzb+Mesk+Doctor are guaranteed a win as long as we don't lynch each other.

But I do agree with you that DD is the scummier of who's left from his trying to end day early without really giving reasons, along with general thoughtlessness.

-vote xDarkDragonx

@Mesk514 , stop me if our telepathic link is off and I'm actually just being a total idiot right now.

[PowersThatBe]

tbh, I got kinda complacent after I realized I wasn't getting lynched today and that me+yzb+Mesk+Doctor are guaranteed a win as long as we don't lynch each other.

But I do agree with you that DD is the scummier of who's left from his trying to end day early without really giving reasons, along with general thoughtlessness.

-vote xDarkDragonx

@Mesk514 , stop me if our telepathic link is off and I'm actually just being a total idiot right now.

Wow, I'm not included in your little no lynch list? Hurt.

[PowersThatBe]

tbh, I got kinda complacent after I realized I wasn't getting lynched today and that me+yzb+Mesk+Doctor are guaranteed a win as long as we don't lynch each other.

But I do agree with you that DD is the scummier of who's left from his trying to end day early without really giving reasons, along with general thoughtlessness.

-vote xDarkDragonx

@Mesk514 , stop me if our telepathic link is off and I'm actually just being a total idiot right now.

its xdarkdragondx brah

[PowersThatBe]

@Unknown1234 and @Mesk514 -- I think we've gotten all we'll get today info wise. It is clear that one of the 5 citizen claims has to be evil.

So, I propose we wittle it down. I posted who i think everyone is.

[Mesk514]

-vote xDarkDragonx

@Mesk514 , stop me if our telepathic link is off and I'm actually just being a total idiot right now.

the shot of whiskey may be interfering with out telepathic link but i feel like im still catching the signal

-vote XDarkDragonDx

btw @MattZed , your vote didnt go through

[PowersThatBe]

At best DD is scum, at WORST, he's useless and deserves a lynch anyway.

[Mesk514]

While I'm in a tbh mood, I am considering changing his username to make FMs easier.

But anyways.

-vote xDarkDragonDx

wrong account buddy...

[MattZed]

its xdarkdragondx brah

While I'm in a tbh mood, I am considering changing his username to make FMs easier.

But anyways.

-vote xDarkDragonDx

[MattZed]

wrong account buddy...

Fix'd

[PowersThatBe]

@Yukitaka Oni can we get a hammer plox? or @Unknown1234

[PowersThatBe]

@mesk make sure to check matt or yuki tonight if dragon is inno

[PowersThatBe]

@Mesk514 see above

[Mesk514]

At best DD is scum, at WORST, he's useless and deserves a lynch anyway.

At worst I check MattZed tonight and if he does nothing we lynch Yuki or Ptb, or Unknown...

Town is pretty invincible...

[Mesk514]

@mesk make sure to check matt or yuki tonight if dragon is inno

Im checking YZB again tonight fam, don't worry about it fam, i got it fam.

[PowersThatBe]

At worst I check MattZed tonight and if he does nothing we lynch Yuki or Ptb, or Unknown...

Town is pretty invincible...

If Dragon isn't scum, i'd love an unknown lynch tomorrow.

[MattZed]

Game is mechanically locked if doctor is who I think it is.
@Unknown1234 , @Yukitaka Oni , get in here.

Off for a few hours.

[PowersThatBe]

I'd love to hear who you think it is.

[MattZed]

I'd love to hear who you think it is.

lolnope.

[PowersThatBe]

lolnope.

lololololololol

[PowersThatBe]

Omg can we just get this lynch already, I need to KNOWWWWW

[Mesk514]

would really appreciate if @Yukitaka Oni , @Unknown1234 or @yzb25 came back to hammer.

[PowersThatBe]

would really appreciate if @Yukitaka Oni , @Unknown1234 or @yzb25 came back to hammer.

I second this.

[Mesk514]

I second this.

Given it's passed midnight for host, im going to assume we're going to have to wait till the morning to find out.

[PowersThatBe]

Given it's passed midnight for host, im going to assume we're going to have to wait till the morning to find out.

True, but still, I'd love for someone to hammer dis shyt.

[PowersThatBe]

1. Why would Mesk not check me, if she already knew yzb didn't do night actions and I was the other person not on FB's train?
2. I'm seeing the writing on the wall. I'm a Citizen. tbh, I understand why I'm the top suspect today, and I'm not going to deny I'm the most obvious lynchbait we've ever seen.

To answer a popular question as to why Crypt didn't replace me, it's always meta. For one, I'm FM staff and it would be embarrassing as shit if I got replaced, but more likely it's because Crypt and I talk on a regular basis and thus knew I was active even if I missed the first ~23 hours of day.

This game IS NOT MECHANICALLY SOLVED. Even with yzb probably cleared as town, Mesk cleared as town, it's still possible for the student, who we know must have sold FB out, to win. Even if I can't give you enough reason to not rope me, there's no reason to end day early. At least give me a chance to find scum so I can win this for us after I'm lynched.

Looking through D2 to find the Student now. Current weak hunch is PTB from his D1 guess of Me+Mesk for scum, which is completely wrong.

I never said mesk was scum.

[PowersThatBe]

I didn't read the first page and missed this reference

This was my day 1 soft claim town, a clear message to mesk and unknown only who would know the reference.

[PowersThatBe]

Holy shit, please stop posting your TPR reads. You've been doing it all game. Maybe you're not posting your legit reads and you're trying to help with hypothetical WIFOM, but you may have misread some sincere softclaims for WIFOM and be unintentionally right XD

Possible Secret Police Force roles: Detective, Lookout.
Possible Town roles: Bodyguard, Citizen, Doctor, Escort.

Here's our play.

Unknown on MattZed
Lookout on me.

Doc/BG on Unknown

Escort on YZB

This way we will know for sure if yzb and Matt are scum. Also, it will limit are pool of suspects if someone from the pool dies.

This is the majority of my claims. Later I moved yzb in place of brendan.

[Yukitaka Oni]

-vote xDarkDragonDx

If he's scum. He's suck ball
If he's town. Then he need to practice A FKING LOT before he game throws again

[The Godfather]

XDarkDragonDX has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


MattZed (1 [L-3]): XDarkDragonDX
XDarkDragonDX (4 [L-0]): Mesk514, PowersThatBe, MattZed, Yukitaka Oni

[Cryptonic]

S-FM Inside Job

Night 3

XDarkDragonDX was lynched.
His role was Citizen.

Role List	Living Players	Graveyard
Student Hidden Secret Police Force Hidden Town Hidden Town Citizen Citizen	@MattZed @PowersThatBe @Yukitaka Oni @Mesk514 @yzb25 @Unknown1234	Brendan (Detective) Firebringer (Serial Killer) XDarkDragonDX (Citizen)

Night 3 will end @ 7:00 PM Eastern, November 14.
Night actions must be received at least 1 hour prior to night ending.

[Cryptonic]

Sorry for delay
Dealing with replacement

[Cryptonic]

S-FM Inside Job

Day 4

Iced_Monopoly has replaced MattZed

@Yukitaka Oni was killed last night
His role was Citizen.

Last will:

Yuki did nothing wrong#

Role List	Living Players	Graveyard
Student Hidden Secret Police Force Hidden Town Hidden Town Citizen	@Iced_Monopoly @PowersThatBe @Mesk514 @yzb25 @Unknown1234	Brendan (Detective) Firebringer (Serial Killer) XDarkDragonDX (Citizen) Yukitaka Oni (Citizen)

Day 4 will end @ 10:00 AM Eastern, November 17.
With 5 players alive, it takes 3 votes to hammer.

[PowersThatBe]

@Mesk514 any info?

[Iced_Monopoly]

Iced has replaced MZ. Iced actually got RL news that has fucked him for a long time. Guess i will actually play towards end of day.

Playing this slot, i was all over the hail ***** dickhead being 2nd maf, and was sorely dissapointed. Il be back on in morn to actually provid3 game reads. Im way too intoxicated for that shit rn

[Unknown1234]

I'm claiming DOCTOR because sure.

[PowersThatBe]

I'm claiming DOCTOR because sure.

Is that your real role?

Who did you heal the night no one died, do you know if they were attacked?

[PowersThatBe]

@Unknown1234 why no answer questions I saw you on!

[PowersThatBe]

We don't know if doc successfully heals. Not that it changes anything. But you healed somone the night no one died? I ask because mesk said yzb took no action and if that's true, then the assumption should be Matt/iced is the scum.

I don't know how yzb hasn't been replaced but mattt has, yzb hasn't contributed in over two days. It sucks because yzb isn't here to cc unknown so we have to trust he's who he says he is.

The problem is both yzb and Matt were afk the night no one was killed, so either of them is the student. Also, given the fact that I'm citi, unknown is doc and mesk is det.

[PowersThatBe]

Just because I'm over this shit at this point and have a doc appointment.

[vote] Yzb25 [\vote]

Vote if you agree, convince me if you don't. Or mesk, give us intel lol

[PowersThatBe]

-vote Yzb25

[yzb25]

We don't know if doc successfully heals. Not that it changes anything. But you healed somone the night no one died? I ask because mesk said yzb took no action and if that's true, then the assumption should be Matt/iced is the scum.

I don't know how yzb hasn't been replaced but mattt has, yzb hasn't contributed in over two days. It sucks because yzb isn't here to cc unknown so we have to trust he's who he says he is.

The problem is both yzb and Matt were afk the night no one was killed, so either of them is the student. Also, given the fact that I'm citi, unknown is doc and mesk is det.

yzb hasn't been here since the end of day 2 because you geniuses decided to hammer before we'd gotten through even a quarter of day 3. Seriously, the early hammers are getting ridiculous. There is no advantage to hammering early other than shitty reads like "hurrdurr that guy wanted to get more information before he placed his vote, clearly he's scum stalling".

Stop early hammering.

Anyway, I do not CC doctor. It seems quite plausible Unknown is who he says he is, as he's made comments earlier along the lines of "I'm claiming citizen for simplicity's sake". I'd be very hesitant to scumread Unknown after that interaction he had with Firebringer, anyway.

[yzb25]

yzb hasn't been here since the end of day 2 because you geniuses decided to hammer before we'd gotten through even a quarter of day 3. Seriously, the early hammers are getting ridiculous. There is no advantage to hammering early other than shitty reads like "hurrdurr that guy wanted to get more information before he placed his vote, clearly he's scum stalling".

Stop early hammering.

Anyway, I do not CC doctor. It seems quite plausible Unknown is who he says he is, as he's made comments earlier along the lines of "I'm claiming citizen for simplicity's sake". I'd be very hesitant to scumread Unknown after that interaction he had with Firebringer, anyway.

In all fairness, in this game specifically we've got so many confirmed towns at this point and so many free lynches it's so unlikely we'd lose anyway - this game is nearly "mechanically solved". But there's still nothing wrong with letting the day last a little.

[PowersThatBe]

In all fairness, in this game specifically we've got so many confirmed towns at this point and so many free lynches it's so unlikely we'd lose anyway - this game is nearly "mechanically solved". But there's still nothing wrong with letting the day last a little.

If I am citizen, you are citizen, unknown is doc, and mesk is det. Then iced is sk.

Even if we mislynch today. It's 3v1 unknown heals mesk, mesk follows one of the two people who are not mesk or unknown. Sk kills unknown, mesk either sees sk follow or that the last town did no move and we win.

So why should we stall day?

[yzb25]

Anyway, assuming Mesk checked me again (which she probably did), me and Mesk are 100% confirmed, and Unknown is like 90% confirmed, leaving 2 suspects and 2 free lynches - Matt/Iced and PTB.

-vote powersthatbe

Yuki was killed last night despite being hot lynchbait. This leads me to believe the scum was going out of his way to dodge a doctor, rather than hit the juiciest confirmed town. For scum to be prioritizing avoiding a doctor so badly makes me think the scum is insecure about getting outhealed by a doctor. This leads me to believe the lack of n2 kill was due to a healing rather than a mad WIFOM play by the final scum.

Forgoing the kill on n2 makes little strategic sense because it gives town an extra lynch anyway. This means, even if scum did manage to squeeze a mislynch in the confusion without drawing attention (best case scenario) the strategy would still only yield a wash - the scum would still have to survive another 2 mislynches anyway.

In other words, it seems overwhelmingly likely given the night actions that Unknown is doctor. And this is on top of the fact he's a townread anyway.

Obviously, if Mesk checked Matt or some shit then we can lynch me first LOL. The game seems pretty locked at this point unless Unknown is about to take the greatest scumwin the world has ever known, or Mesk was a twat and checked Unknown last night for some ungodly reason.

[yzb25]

If I am citizen, you are citizen, unknown is doc, and mesk is det. Then iced is sk.

Even if we mislynch today. It's 3v1 unknown heals mesk, mesk follows one of the two people who are not mesk or unknown. Sk kills unknown, mesk either sees sk follow or that the last town did no move and we win.

So why should we stall day?

The simple fact that it's unpleasant to have days<12 hours because it makes it very difficult for everyone to get on in time is enough of a justification. As I said for today and tomorrow it's more forgivable but the early-lynch on d2 and d3 was silly. This game has only become so locked in because scum killed Yuki last night, who was one of the major suspects along with me, PTB and matty.

[PowersThatBe]

Lynch me idgaf. Unless iced ccs unknowns doc claim, which would be stupid at this point unless actually a doc. Then unknown is doc.

Waiiiiiittttt mesk checked you both nights, 1 and 2. Student had the kill n1, so therefore you couldn't be scum based on that inactivity. I keep thinking sk alone kills but sk was agent first night.

So unless you were afk and FB decided to kill Brendan and you did nothing for two nights as a means to get confirmed then you are town.

So if we lynch iced and he rolls something other than citizen, then unknown is sk.

-unvote

[PowersThatBe]

I am not a major scum candidate. I've been seen as town since day 1. If you were here you'd know that.