S-FM President

[Theodore Roosevelt]

I was going to do the executioner route and fake claim sheriff saying I double checked the mayor, but tbh I truly believe that is a scum there. now, the mafia will not hit me, the town spent D1 not searching for neutral alignments, and him getting himself elected guaranteed the neutral cant side with town (if he is town). I see no pro-town moves there at all. so just figured i'd let him bury himself lol

[Abraham Lincoln]

By who he has been pushed? I can remember Nixon pretty well.

I pushed for him the hardest, I think Nixon also did, dunno who else.

[Theodore Roosevelt]

By who he has been pushed? I can remember Nixon pretty well.

are you claiming it was hard getting him elected? the very soft defense here?

[George Bush]

Yeah of course ! At least, it's showing everyone's preference and interest. And most of the other people are not connected, so that will evolve.

There are other (superior) ways of showing everyone's preferences and interests. It's call a suspicion ranking list.

Anywho.

Notes:
Not that I currently read Lincoln as scum, I initially thought the slot saying 'they'd push truman today' seemed fake.

Already said, but just reiterating: why are people worried about a turbo lynch happening. I'd be ecstatic if a scummy turbo lynch happened bc all 3 scums would be on it. Too bad that never happens because scum aren't dumb enough to do that.

@John Kennedy , I'll skim your posts if you keep doing a whole bunch of mini posts. It's spam and doesn't really tell people your thoughts concisely and in an organized manner. Presentation is important. Also, saying we're going to 'pressure' someone and then say 'pressure' someone else seems counter intuitive to me. If you like the target, stick with it.

Suspicion ranking list:
Roosevelt
JFK
Lincoln
Clinton

Thomas Jefferson
Trump
Obama

Regan
Nixon

Consider anyone I forgt as scum/null.

Also, Nixon's team killed Truman bc Truman scum read Nixon. I'd be v interested to test this theory, and seperately scum read Nixon anyway. Too bad I can't have been the one to lead it.

-vote Richard Nixon

Also

I REQUIRE EVERYONE'S STATEMENT OF WHO THEY VOTED YESTERDAY. nOW.

I'll continue scum hunting how people expect me to scum hunt.

But, do not push back on my question and don't make this an issue in day chat. It doesn't need to be. Just give me the information I want. There's literally no reason you should be keeping this secret except that you're scum. Seriously, there shouldn't be any discussion. Any questioning and push back only creates the drama you're going to try and scum paint me for.

So don't do it if you're town.

[Abraham Lincoln]

I was going to do the executioner route and fake claim sheriff saying I double checked the mayor, but tbh I truly believe that is a scum there. now, the mafia will not hit me, the town spent D1 not searching for neutral alignments, and him getting himself elected guaranteed the neutral cant side with town (if he is town). I see no pro-town moves there at all. so just figured i'd let him bury himself lol

Who do you think is likely to be in a team with him?

[Theodore Roosevelt]

I pushed for him the hardest, I think Nixon also did, dunno who else.

thats why i was wanting to get everyone to show who they were voting. 1, I needed to vote for a winning president, and 2 it would be pretty obvious the mafia would help push him up for election. So just find who was voting him EoD and u can bet ur ass the other 2 mafia are in there.

[Abraham Lincoln]

There are other (superior) ways of showing everyone's preferences and interests. It's call a suspicion ranking list.

Anywho.

Notes:
Not that I currently read Lincoln as scum, I initially thought the slot saying 'they'd push truman today' seemed fake.

Already said, but just reiterating: why are people worried about a turbo lynch happening. I'd be ecstatic if a scummy turbo lynch happened bc all 3 scums would be on it. Too bad that never happens because scum aren't dumb enough to do that.

@John Kennedy , I'll skim your posts if you keep doing a whole bunch of mini posts. It's spam and doesn't really tell people your thoughts concisely and in an organized manner. Presentation is important. Also, saying we're going to 'pressure' someone and then say 'pressure' someone else seems counter intuitive to me. If you like the target, stick with it.

Suspicion ranking list:
Roosevelt
JFK
Lincoln
Clinton

Thomas Jefferson
Trump
Obama

Regan
Nixon

Consider anyone I forgt as scum/null.

Also, Nixon's team killed Truman bc Truman scum read Nixon. I'd be v interested to test this theory, and seperately scum read Nixon anyway. Too bad I can't have been the one to lead it.

-vote Richard Nixon

Also

I REQUIRE EVERYONE'S STATEMENT OF WHO THEY VOTED YESTERDAY. nOW.

I'll continue scum hunting how people expect me to scum hunt.

But, do not push back on my question and don't make this an issue in day chat. It doesn't need to be. Just give me the information I want. There's literally no reason you should be keeping this secret except that you're scum. Seriously, there shouldn't be any discussion. Any questioning and push back only creates the drama you're going to try and scum paint me for.

So don't do it if you're town.

I voted for Washington, also I agree with your assessment of Nixon, but why do you think Reagan is scum?

[Ronald Reagan]

are you claiming it was hard getting him elected? the very soft defense here?

I don't know, I was afk almost the whole D1 !
No I am asking for informations, apparently you know who pushed the most to elect Washington.

[George Bush]

I missed Roosevelt's claim.

-unvote

I think best option is for @Bill Clinton to kill the president no? Mitigate risk of 'claimed' neutral? checking disguiser gambit possibility.

Actively thinking rn.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Anyone wanna hear a batshit insane theory about Truman's death? If I say this you guys may no longer trust anything in the game lol

[George Bush]

I voted for Washington, also I agree with your assessment of Nixon, but why do you think Reagan is scum?

The way Regan is trying to be helpful is what's ticking me off. It's different from you. That's all I can explain on my gut read.

[Abraham Lincoln]

I missed Roosevelt's claim.

-unvote

I think best option is for @Bill Clinton to kill the president no? Mitigate risk of 'claimed' neutral? checking disguiser gambit possibility.

Actively thinking rn.

Actually no. I don't think so.

I need to go check the OoO for a bit.

[Ronald Reagan]

There are other (superior) ways of showing everyone's preferences and interests. It's call a suspicion ranking list.

Anywho.

Notes:
Not that I currently read Lincoln as scum, I initially thought the slot saying 'they'd push truman today' seemed fake.

Already said, but just reiterating: why are people worried about a turbo lynch happening. I'd be ecstatic if a scummy turbo lynch happened bc all 3 scums would be on it. Too bad that never happens because scum aren't dumb enough to do that.

@John Kennedy , I'll skim your posts if you keep doing a whole bunch of mini posts. It's spam and doesn't really tell people your thoughts concisely and in an organized manner. Presentation is important. Also, saying we're going to 'pressure' someone and then say 'pressure' someone else seems counter intuitive to me. If you like the target, stick with it.

Suspicion ranking list:
Roosevelt
JFK
Lincoln
Clinton

Thomas Jefferson
Trump
Obama

Regan
Nixon

Consider anyone I forgt as scum/null.

Also, Nixon's team killed Truman bc Truman scum read Nixon. I'd be v interested to test this theory, and seperately scum read Nixon anyway. Too bad I can't have been the one to lead it.

-vote Richard Nixon

Also

I REQUIRE EVERYONE'S STATEMENT OF WHO THEY VOTED YESTERDAY. nOW.

I'll continue scum hunting how people expect me to scum hunt.

But, do not push back on my question and don't make this an issue in day chat. It doesn't need to be. Just give me the information I want. There's literally no reason you should be keeping this secret except that you're scum. Seriously, there shouldn't be any discussion. Any questioning and push back only creates the drama you're going to try and scum paint me for.

So don't do it if you're town.

As I said like 20 hours before EOD, I put my vote on Washington then disappeared and didn't show up before D2.
I was guinely very busy saturday (tournament).
What are your reads on me?

[George Bush]

Anyone wanna hear a batshit insane theory about Truman's death? If I say this you guys may no longer trust anything in the game lol

don't do it. you're only going to throw the town into more disarray. i suggest keeping this between washington and Teddy.

I think there's a risk that teddy might be mafia and there's a tailor on Washington. I don't think this is the likely scenario, as I didn't think Teddy was scum initially. It's just a good opportunity to make town mislynch the neutral.

Openly thinking right now guys. Please please point out logic holes in the way I'm thinking.

[Abraham Lincoln]

As I said like 20 hours before EOD, I put my vote on Washington then disappeared and didn't show up before D2.
I was guinely very busy saturday (tournament).
What are your reads on me?

The thing is, being busy is NAI. It doesn't mean anything. Also I just remembered that the posts where you were stating you wouldn't feel pressure...

[Abraham Lincoln]

don't do it. you're only going to throw the town into more disarray. i suggest keeping this between washington and Teddy.

I think there's a risk that teddy might be mafia and there's a tailor on Washington. I don't think this is the likely scenario, as I didn't think Teddy was scum initially. It's just a good opportunity to make town mislynch the neutral.

Openly thinking right now guys. Please please point out logic holes in the way I'm thinking.

I fully agree with this way of thinking.

[Abraham Lincoln]

I fully agree with this way of thinking.

I think that Washington was the one that got sent for the kill

[Abraham Lincoln]

I think that Washington was the one that got sent for the kill

Since I believe I slipped that I am Escort, I am going to hardclaim it. I blocked Truman last night.

[Abraham Lincoln]

don't do it. you're only going to throw the town into more disarray. i suggest keeping this between washington and Teddy.

I think there's a risk that teddy might be mafia and there's a tailor on Washington. I don't think this is the likely scenario, as I didn't think Teddy was scum initially. It's just a good opportunity to make town mislynch the neutral.

Openly thinking right now guys. Please please point out logic holes in the way I'm thinking.

I think it's Nixon and Washington IMO. Possibly Washington and... no idea. Clinton?

[Ronald Reagan]

The thing is, being busy is NAI. It doesn't mean anything. Also I just remembered that the posts where you were stating you wouldn't feel pressure...

I am not saying I am towish or scumyish because I was afk...I was just replying to his question about who I voted.
And I wouldn't feel pressured D1 because the lynch vote didn't have any point. Remember?

[Abraham Lincoln]

I think it's Nixon and Washington IMO. Possibly Washington and... no idea. Clinton?

Clinton's claim would synergise well with Washington's claim, but that claim would be very daring as scum

[Ronald Reagan]

don't do it. you're only going to throw the town into more disarray. i suggest keeping this between washington and Teddy.

I think there's a risk that teddy might be mafia and there's a tailor on Washington. I don't think this is the likely scenario, as I didn't think Teddy was scum initially. It's just a good opportunity to make town mislynch the neutral.

Openly thinking right now guys. Please please point out logic holes in the way I'm thinking.

So, does that mean you are teaming me with Nixon? Since we are the two most suspicious dude in your list.

[Abraham Lincoln]

I also want to add that Obama is a slight town read for me right now

[George Bush]

Anyway, Washington needs to talk. Let's see if he sticks with the neutral claim, or claims town.

I'm open to Teddy's thoughts in that there was 0 town motivation for him to do what he did. Claiming the 'mayor' power in a dishonest way that would cause strife in later days when the real neutral claimed (this is assuming washington claims town).

I might be of the opinion that we lynch washington if he claims neutral? shoot him if he claims town? Mitigate a 'real' neutral siding against us?

I'm liking these thoughts, but I hate the possibility that someone is going to twist my words back at me as being opportunistic. I'm not interested in that, just looking for what's the best expected outcome given each action we could take. I think I'm laying out the best one.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Anyway, Washington needs to talk. Let's see if he sticks with the neutral claim, or claims town.

I'm open to Teddy's thoughts in that there was 0 town motivation for him to do what he did. Claiming the 'mayor' power in a dishonest way that would cause strife in later days when the real neutral claimed (this is assuming washington claims town).

I might be of the opinion that we lynch washington if he claims neutral? shoot him if he claims town? Mitigate a 'real' neutral siding against us?

I'm liking these thoughts, but I hate the possibility that someone is going to twist my words back at me as being opportunistic. I'm not interested in that, just looking for what's the best expected outcome given each action we could take. I think I'm laying out the best one.

I can block one of these guys. I think Mafia figured it out that I was escort, because they killed the guy I tried to block

[George Bush]

So, does that mean you are teaming me with Nixon? Since we are the two most suspicious dude in your list.

I wasn't around for much of d1, and d2 just started. This is a rough-ish reads list for me, but i see the both of you as scum, but not necessarily as a team? I mean it wouldn't be too hard to not draw connections between partners.

But no, I don't have any evidence that both of you are a scum team. And I think Nixon is wayyyy more of a scum than you. There's a dead guys 'thoughts' against Nixon. You just seem weird in the way you were helping at the beginnnninnnggg of day 2.

[Abraham Lincoln]

I wasn't around for much of d1, and d2 just started. This is a rough-ish reads list for me, but i see the both of you as scum, but not necessarily as a team? I mean it wouldn't be too hard to not draw connections between partners.

But no, I don't have any evidence that both of you are a scum team. And I think Nixon is wayyyy more of a scum than you. There's a dead guys 'thoughts' against Nixon. You just seem weird in the way you were helping at the beginnnninnnggg of day 2.

Did you have an opinion on Nixon yesterday? I recall that a lot of people didn't

[Ronald Reagan]

I can block one of these guys. I think Mafia figured it out that I was escort, because they killed the guy I tried to block

I don't understand the connexion between you roleblocking Truman and scums killing him.
Can you explain that?
Or is that a way to look townish 'hey, I roleblocked Truman, so I can't be scum'?

[Abraham Lincoln]

Did you have an opinion on Nixon yesterday? I recall that a lot of people didn't

I think Nixon is my biggest scum read right now followed by Washington

[George Bush]

I can block one of these guys. I think Mafia figured it out that I was escort, because they killed the guy I tried to block

I wouldn't have revealed that, but it does certainly lend some help to how we can resolve this 1v1.

[Abraham Lincoln]

I don't understand the connexion between you roleblocking Truman and scums killing him.
Can you explain that?
Or is that a way to look townish 'hey, I roleblocked Truman, so I can't be scum'?

I slipped yesterday that I was Escort and I didn't even realize it. I asked who got sent on kill, FML. I think Truman would still be alive if I hadn't asked that question.

[George Bush]

Did you have an opinion on Nixon yesterday? I recall that a lot of people didn't

Nah, I just had 4 people I thought were town. Which is how I do my PoE and how I vote. They were teddy, you, bill clinton, and JFK.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Nah, I just had 4 people I thought were town. Which is how I do my PoE and how I vote. They were teddy, you, bill clinton, and JFK.

Interesting. Nixon, the universal null-read. Had way more posts than Trump, contributed way more than him, and yet, nobody can read him. .....

[Abraham Lincoln]

I slipped yesterday that I was Escort and I didn't even realize it. I asked who got sent on kill, FML. I think Truman would still be alive if I hadn't asked that question.

I considered blocking Washington, but then I realized that vesting is a blockable action.

[Ronald Reagan]

I wasn't around for much of d1, and d2 just started. This is a rough-ish reads list for me, but i see the both of you as scum, but not necessarily as a team? I mean it wouldn't be too hard to not draw connections between partners.

But no, I don't have any evidence that both of you are a scum team. And I think Nixon is wayyyy more of a scum than you. There's a dead guys 'thoughts' against Nixon. You just seem weird in the way you were helping at the beginnnninnnggg of day 2.

Hum ok, so let's see how that evolve since D2 just started.
It's pretty simple actually, D1 was about shitposting/roleplaying and I was afk most of the time where I could have been useful (last 20 hours).
Plus, there was no lynch yesterday so it was difficult to pressure people. Maybe I am being helpful now because I actually can be helpful? aka not being afk and being able to pressure people.
Thanks you for your list of reads, you didn't post much but that is actualy giving us informations and making to game going forward.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Honestly, Washington pushing me just for talking about Truman's death without even hearing what I have to say about him is so scummy... lol

[Ronald Reagan]

I slipped yesterday that I was Escort and I didn't even realize it. I asked who got sent on kill, FML. I think Truman would still be alive if I hadn't asked that question.

I totally missed that, maybe it could be interesting to see how people react when you asked that. Do you know where that post is?

[Abraham Lincoln]

I totally missed that, maybe it could be interesting to see how people react when you asked that. Do you know where that post is?

I think it's on page 6 or 7.

[George Bush]

good night mr presidents. i only stayed around cuz teddy dropped the bombshell.

[Abraham Lincoln]

@SuperJack

Close enough.

[Ronald Reagan]

Scum could indeed try to get elected President. There's a few problems with that tho, because PRs lose their night ability upon becoming President. Which begs the following question:

@SuperJack, can Mafioso still be sent on kill if he becomes President?

You mean this one?
I don't know, seriously with that question at that time, I could have never think you are escort
Now that you revealed, yeah maybe it make sense.
Apparently, noone have reacted to your question.

[Abraham Lincoln]

You mean this one?
I don't know, seriously with that question at that time, I could have never think you are escort
Now that you revealed, yeah maybe it make sense.
Apparently, noone have reacted to your question.

It's definitely a slip, no question about it. And if Georgey is scum he definitely noticed that

[Abraham Lincoln]

FML I could've blocked Washington.

[Abraham Lincoln]

My thoughts atm are that Washington is town or pro-town neutral, Reagan and JFK are probably town, Roosevelt is town or turncoat, Clinton is probably town, Truman is scum, D. Trump is prolly town

@Theodore Roosevelt

[Abraham Lincoln]

@SuperJack , does the Assassin's kill force the day to end?

[Theodore Roosevelt]

I can block one of these guys. I think Mafia figured it out that I was escort, because they killed the guy I tried to block

what? if they figured out you were escort they would have done that after the factional kill. so doesn't make sense to why they would 'intentionally' target the same person as you.

[Theodore Roosevelt]

I think Nixon is my biggest scum read right now followed by Washington

trying to get a "lynch this guy first" seems like a slight defense on washington tbh Mafia will try to steer that conversation to scum reading him, but having a BIGGER scum read they would "prefer" for that day.

[Theodore Roosevelt]

I slipped yesterday that I was Escort and I didn't even realize it. I asked who got sent on kill, FML. I think Truman would still be alive if I hadn't asked that question.

how is that an escort slip? that sounds extremely paranoid

[Abraham Lincoln]

trying to get a "lynch this guy first" seems like a slight defense on washington tbh Mafia will try to steer that conversation to scum reading him, but having a BIGGER scum read they would "prefer" for that day.

I'm not defending Washington fml

-vote George Washington

[Abraham Lincoln]

how is that an escort slip? that sounds extremely paranoid

I was the only one who asked that lol.