Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Therefore, a bussing situation between the Anti-Vaxxer and MM
Is 100% possible
They might have not had a night chat to do it,
but based on the setup (and because of the plan we came up with on D1)
MM and Anti-vaxxer will know each other, and can't communicate much.
But votes can communicate a lot, especially among scum buddies during the day.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
I would have recruited Martin. If I was MM. From My PoV I would have you pocketed no need to recruit you.
Bakermir I dont knwo who he would have recruited.
Frinkles not MM dont know if recruited.
I know Aivion is confirmed town.
Martion is never MM but could have been converted we will have to find out.
What I find is odd is you don't even suspect me to have been recruited unless you are reading me as SB. I will not confirm nor deny that. Please pleaser stop claiming Parents. It only helps the MM find the SB.
Rest I have not mentioned. Still evaluating.
Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
Spoiler : :
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Darn site r00dly cutting me off from my thoughts. Anyways, where was I?
Spoiler : Quotes in chronological order :
This is what I'm talking about.
As soon as DM makes the vote, bakermir starts digging his grave right in front of AIVION.
Before that, AIVION didn't seem to be considering bakermir as a likely elimination today. Additionally, she was suggesting that Frinckles be checked with SB.
If you're an anti-vaxxer in the current game-state, I believe your top priority is either to get checked by SB (so as to deny a confirmed town) or to get eliminated so you can allow MM to convert another townie. Even better, if you're being eliminated have the MM push you in order to gain town cred.
Honestly at this point I want to eliminate Bakermir (once discussion is over) because if he's anti-vaxxer then I'm fairly sure Dark Magician has a reasonable chance of being MM here.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
-vote Dark Magician
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
To be honest, there is no correct way to answer that question because it's off of complete speculation.
Let me put it a different way: I do not believe Bakermir to be recruited.
And again, I find it unlikely that DM is scum here. If he is, he's taking a serious gambit that SC2Mafia of all websites wouldn't just fucking kill him. I dont buy it. Could he be recruited? Sure, but again -- the MM in that cause would have to be taking a serious gambit unless they are completely okay with the expend-ability of DM (in that case.)
So back to Bakermir -- I think Aivion is trippin' about silly stuff the same way she tripped about silly stuff on me. It's difficult to communicate sometimes and Bakermir, despite being a great Mafia player, can fumble his words especially when he wants to joke around or misses something.
Truth be told, I didn't even know that Concerned parents were immune to a shot (See my post about 2 kills if the SB goes to MM.)
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So. With that out of the way. I'm gonna go back to where I am. FMPOV, the MM is in here:
Martin
Ren
MM
Martin has been opportunistic? In a sense. Perhaps gently so and very much in contrast to the yolo shit that Renegade has shown.
But I'm struggling to figure out what a MM(MM) might be up to here.
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Like, DM is obviously not a bad player. You're going to sell to me that he is MM and has put this little effort into the game?
I'm sorry if this seems naive, but as a player, especially from a veteran one I couldn't imagine. I don't buy it. That's about as much meta speculation as I can make on that smurf slot.
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Dude has 40 less posts than MM and I barely remember anything MM has said.
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Well we can still vote "Marshmallow Marshall"
But tbh that bakermir turn of events just seemed way too strange for me to ignore.
I was looking at it (a MM, the player, vote) until DM just popped in with a vote then immediately left without comment.
I also find it very difficult that bakermir thoroughly read the setup and remembered that the MM role has a gun but "forgot" something else on the same line of text (in that the MM can only shoot to kill SB).
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
I don't think you have finished my post following that, but I pointed out that I also did and gave an example of context.
But consider the following: If you're supposing DM is the MM and is bussing his partner: This means he cannot shoot + recruit tonight.
So he'd be setting himself back for no reason and probably get lynched for low activity.
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As in, barring new developments I want DM gone tomorrow I think.
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He can't recruit tonight anyways because his partner is alive during the day:
[quote]
Night Action: Target a player to spread propaganda. Your action will automatically fail (and no feedback is sent to your target) if an Anti-Vaxxer was alive during the day
[quote]
Additionally, the "fail" only applies to the convert. Not the gun shot. If the MM lives to n2, and guesses correctly, they can kill SB tonight.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
I can settle for that tbh. If he's the MM then it doesn't matter much to me so long as the MM dies. If we eliminate an anti-vaxxer today though, I would like MM to be gone by n3. Not another townie needs to lose in a town-favored cult setup.
Though if AIVION wants to eliminate him, we will.
@AIVION
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
Still. I think your theory on Baker+DM is weak. Re-read them in the context of someone who honestly doesn't know those things (such as me forgetting what you jut pointed out.)
-He says what actions he's do and who to. Mechanically they're solid actions from his point of view because they can affect whoever if he were that role.
-Then Aivion says 'wut'
-Then he world-builds around the same concept only 5 minutes later.
But nobody corrects me when I say stuff like this;
So, yeah I think you and Aivion are trippin.
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Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
NOPE.
I mean, let's be honest. Who the fuck wants to recruit Ren?
im gonna recruit him in a future game hehe
But seriously. As far as pull and agency goes, he's not a plausible recruit target any day of the year. We just fired off a mislynch on Zedus and renegade grabbed coat-tails in the process to be a part of it.
I'm looking at MM (marsh) right now. And it's actually given me the biggest pushback of this game.
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That's not exactly the same as having said reading the setup throughly then forgetting something said on the same line, in my opinion. Same role card? Sure. Practically the same sentence? Not so much.
I thought you meant if "they" (SB) check a town only to get shot. Then town may very well do a free elimination of the town who's accused of MM that killed SB upon visit. That makes two kills just because of a single night by scum.
We can have miscommunication all the time, but forgetting like that sometimes isn't miscommunication.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
I agree that Baker would be a fine recruit target, but I don't find your correlation with DM to be plausible.
And I also do not believe that if you were looking for a scum in Baker, that the information (or lack thereof) is cause enough to form a read like that.
This has nothing to do with D1 actions etc. It's just extremely unlikely fmpov. If you want a recruited Baker, you find a better MM even if it's me in this scenario. (But I'm getting checked anyway so eh.)
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Reminding you, it was Aivion who tried to lynch Mike yesterday and Mike was on L-1 until he came and corrected Aivion, then we switched our vote to Zedus because he was on the table instead of Mike.
Zedus was LHF and only you and me pointed this out to Aivion earlier. Actually, MM(player) did also point out similar things.
Mike wanted Zedus out because of a possible MM and possible risk to town.
Renegade wanted Zedus out because Zedus was a risk.
I voted Zedus there because I didn't want either Frinckles or Mike to be voted out as I TR'd them as much as Zedus, except Zedus was the obvious CP of day 1 while the other two could be anything.
Yet, since the beginning of day 2 I am getting accused and scumpainted.
I don't understand what's up with Martin and Renegade here.
AIVION could be hella paranoid idk why is she so obscured with her thoughts. Did you notice how she got mad at me when I jokingly voted her up
@bakermir hi im ur lawyer! go read da fuggin setup better
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I will again lol
thanks
i know we can solve this. idk I think i got lost in my thoughts there when I was trying to think from MM pov and understand who could be recruited or not. i wasnt sure about the shot stuff so i wrote aivion instead of whoever I believe to be a valuable target. then people misunderstood me or something. idk wassup
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
(๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶
hello I am confirmed town now
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Obviously this isn't something you intended when you said it,
but on D1 you literally told me to scrap some of my reads today because familiarity shouldn't be a factor.
So I tried to be a bit more open-minded and try to dis-regard previous games.
In that instance I don't really like baker all that much.
For DM, even though part of my past reasons for not liking DM were because of past games, I still don't think a !town me who has never met DM would appreciate them just popping in with a vote like that then leaving.
And if he has so much IRL stuff to do, and has other games to attend to, then that's a problem that applies to them regardless of their alignment.
As for MM the player, well, IDK. I'm kinda treating him as I think I would, because in my first game with him he only lived for a day and a half. Not much meta to go off on there. And tempted to just resolve this slot if not much else and/or seems the likely consensus.
Renegade I still don't like, but upon reflection last night I can kinda see him just wanting to take this the pure-cunning mechanical route. Still on the table though.
As for you frinckles, I think you being checked tonight + your EoD1 was suitable enough from a town perspective (regardless of meta), even though at one point I was voting you.
For Mike, I re-evaluated recently upon reading his ISO. I can't fully recall what I was thinking, since its been a few hours, but I had felt there were some inconsistencies in him that wouldn't exist if he were a !scum Mike.
I think that's everyone.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.