S-FM 200: Mafia Wars II

[Logically Insane]

Why are you resorting to RVS after ~200 posts?

Why are you proposing lynches on anti-town town roles? Any town with Tailor, Janitor, Drug Dealer would just not use their role

Because Clearly I Need To Make A Point.
Because Clearly It's Day 1 and pokes are the thing to do.
Because Clearly I Still Need To Read Thoroughly Those Posts Instead Of Skimming

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[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Who the fuck is posting on Logically Insane anyway? I'm guessing Paladin or PTB.

[Voss]

The Meta you all seem to have is a lot for me to process right now. It's like I'm playing an anonymous fm but everyone else knows who everyone else is

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

The Meta you all seem to have is a lot for me to process right now. It's like I'm playing an anonymous fm but everyone else knows who everyone else is

Has your play changed since the Star Wars M-FM, by the by? ;) If so, how?

[Unknown1234]

The Meta you all seem to have is a lot for me to process right now. It's like I'm playing an anonymous fm but everyone else knows who everyone else is

For the sake of the ones who aren't familiar, please try to minimize the amount of meta references if possible, it will hopefully help everyone.

[SexyDucK]

Who the fuck is posting on Logically Insane anyway? I'm guessing Paladin or PTB.

the person seems incapable, probably PTB.

[God Emperor Trudeau]

I try! I always go for the people i don't know so i can test them

who are you panda?

"Hey guys it's day one, I am new to this, let's start this game with a bunch of questions and a reaction test"

lynch this guy before he AFKs and never comes back

[Voss]

Has your play changed since the Star Wars M-FM, by the by? ;) If so, how?

I've only played the big FM games and a Pokémon sfm waaaaaaaaay back when. Don't recall star wars

[Unknown1234]

who are you panda?

"Hey guys it's day one, I am new to this, let's start this game with a bunch of questions and a reaction test"

lynch this guy before he AFKs and never comes back

Keep personal grudges out of the game please =)

[Voss]

Like there's a lot of meta talk going on in the beginning so I don't have too much to say. But in that initial post I did....

(post to be continued)

[Logically Insane]

Spoiler : reply's :

chaos in the game= bad for town, why do you want chaos.

-DucK

Really m8

Who the fuck is posting on Logically Insane anyway? I'm guessing Paladin or PTB.

Also Borderline Crazy Dealers. If We have no other leads wouldn't It be the best idea to lynch someone we suspect of having an anti-town role? Of course we are no where near end of day, but I would like to remind everyone scum are not very likely to pick a pro-town role since it greatly inhibits them more than having a role which they can confuse or kill town with

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Like there's a lot of meta talk going on in the beginning so I don't have too much to say. But in that initial post I did....

(post to be continued)

I'm just going to tell you to fuck meta. We could do with someone who can read posts without having prior experience cloud their judgment.

Thoughts on Duck's early pressure of myself, Duck vs Unknown, Shifty's behaviour and anything else of note to you?

[Logically Insane]

For the sake of the ones who aren't familiar, please try to minimize the amount of meta references if possible, it will hopefully help everyone.

Meta is fine for d1. It tells us things. If you aren't familar read some other games. Meta is largest lead we have besides scumslips on d1.

[SexyDucK]

Spoiler : reply's :

Really m8

Also Borderline Crazy Dealers. If We have no other leads wouldn't It be the best idea to lynch someone we suspect of having an anti-town role? Of course we are no where near end of day, but I would like to remind everyone scum are not very likely to pick a pro-town role since it greatly inhibits them more than having a role which they can confuse or kill town with

If you keep this trolly joker shit up I am policy lynching you, this is your only warning. yes I make the sole decision on this.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Spoiler : reply's :

Really m8

Also Borderline Crazy Dealers. If We have no other leads wouldn't It be the best idea to lynch someone we suspect of having an anti-town role? Of course we are no where near end of day, but I would like to remind everyone scum are not very likely to pick a pro-town role since it greatly inhibits them more than having a role which they can confuse or kill town with

Why do you care so much about the ROLES? Why not just focus on scum reads? They're the greatest anti-town threat in the game.

I don't like how you're trying to justify mislynches because of their roles.

[Unknown1234]

Meta is fine for d1. It tells us things. If you aren't familar read some other games. Meta is largest lead we have besides scumslips on d1.

I didn't say don't use it, I said minimize it. The point is it leaves people who are unaware with nothing to use for reading purposes.

[SexyDucK]

I'm just going to tell you to fuck meta. We could do with someone who can read posts without having prior experience cloud their judgment.

Thoughts on Duck's early pressure of myself, Duck vs Unknown, Shifty's behaviour and anything else of note to you?

I actually like this post a lot from BCD- calix? Wanting an unbiased and unclouded perspective favors town because that person is most likely accurately viewing events and is easily able to find perspective and intent. If you are town you want this, if she was mafia she would probably be more in favor of meta. Feel free to correct me if this is false calix.

-DucK

[God Emperor Trudeau]

Keep personal grudges out of the game please =)

I'm sorry, did i mention anything personal about you? no, so shut it before it does get personal.

[Shifty]

Cult cannot convert until N1.

Can you post your reads on everyone who has posted? Can you explain why you made your setup spec post?

Did I say otherwise?

Also, I haven't even begun working on a reads list considering all the shitposting and banter during day 1. And my setup spec post was a what seems to be a vain attempt to move the game in the right direciton.

[SexyDucK]

If you keep this trolly joker shit up I am policy lynching you, this is your only warning. yes I make the sole decision on this.

Denied.

[Logically Insane]

If you keep this trolly joker shit up I am policy lynching you, this is your only warning. yes I make the sole decision on this.

Yet you waste a post on this. I purposely put it in a spoiler. No one is forcing you to read it. Read the signup forum if you wish to know the why.
Also I like how you don't comment on the actual point of the post and instead just comment on the stuff in the spoiler. BTW THEY SORTA ASKED THE QUESTION.

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@unknown , I understand where you are coming from, but meta does tell us enought about certain players to know when something seems weird especially if they are subtibetly misleading town when they usually don't drop subtle hints for example. I'm not sugesting making every or >75% posts meta because that just circlejerks, but we shouldn't dimenish its power.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

I'm sorry, did i mention anything personal about you? no, so shut it before it does get personal.

Post something of use please. You've only commented on this petty grudge and it's reading like you're evading discussion the more you keep doing it.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Did I say otherwise?

Also, I haven't even begun working on a reads list considering all the shitposting and banter during day 1. And my setup spec post was a what seems to be a vain attempt to move the game in the right direciton.

You literally said "this player is probably converted" when that ISN'T POSSIBLE.

What posts stand out to you? What players could be scum to you? Any early town reads? LITERALLY ANYTHING RELEVANT.

[SexyDucK]

Yet you waste a post on this. I purposely put it in a spoiler. No one is forcing you to read it. Read the signup forum if you wish to know the why.
Also I like how you don't comment on the actual point of the post and instead just comment on the stuff in the spoiler. BTW THEY SORTA ASKED THE QUESTION.

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@unknown , I understand where you are coming from, but meta does tell us enought about certain players to know when something seems weird especially if they are subtibetly misleading town when they usually don't drop subtle hints for example. I'm not sugesting making every or >75% posts meta because that just circlejerks, but we shouldn't dimenish its power.

Holy shit you really are terrible.

[Voss]

I'm just going to tell you to fuck meta. We could do with someone who can read posts without having prior experience cloud their judgment.

Thoughts on Duck's early pressure of myself, Duck vs Unknown, Shifty's behaviour and anything else of note to you?

will get back to you on this

Why do you care so much about the ROLES? Why not just focus on scum reads? They're the greatest anti-town threat in the game.

I don't like how you're trying to justify mislynches because of their roles.

I think a good chat about roles is not bad for the town. any talk, really, gives scum reads anyway. it's like multitasking.

Meta is fine for d1. It tells us things. If you aren't familar read some other games. Meta is largest lead we have besides scumslips on d1.

definitely not going to be rereading other games.

[Logically Insane]

Holy shit you really are terrible.

Still shitposting on personal insults.
Still not commenting on my suggestion for lynch at end of day1 if no medium-hard reads.
Mind Actually Adding To The Discussion Instead Of Crying About My Logical Reasoning?
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[God Emperor Trudeau]

Post something of use please. You've only commented on this petty grudge and it's reading like you're evading discussion the more you keep doing it.

Am i not allowed to walk into the conversation with my petty ass comments like everyone else? get off your high horse and let me read, get back to harassing the duck.

[Voss]

Did I say otherwise?

Also, I haven't even begun working on a reads list considering all the shitposting and banter during day 1. And my setup spec post was a what seems to be a vain attempt to move the game in the right direciton.

this

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Town: Duck, Unknown, possibly PTB (I sense retarded logic being used, but that's not necessarily scummy)
Null: Voss (seems to be genuinely confused/ lost so SLIGHTLY town here), Kovath, Gaslight
Scum: Shifty, Mesk

[SexyDucK]

Still shitposting on personal insults.
Still not commenting on my suggestion for lynch at end of day1 if no medium-hard reads.
Mind Actually Adding To The Discussion Instead Of Crying About My Logical Reasoning?
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you dont have logical reasoning.

I will humor your stupid idea though. No we should not fucking lynch based on a role, we lynch based on who we think is the most likely to be a fucking hit.

[SexyDucK]

Town: Duck, Unknown, possibly PTB (I sense retarded logic being used, but that's not necessarily scummy)
Null: Voss (seems to be genuinely confused/ lost so SLIGHTLY town here), Kovath, Gaslight
Scum: Shifty, Mesk

We look likr towb. Great job Duck.

[Logically Insane]

Hola, coma estas? -Duck

That is Italian not Spanish.

[Logically Insane]

you dont have logical reasoning.

I will humor your stupid idea though. No we should not fucking lynch based on a role, we lynch based on who we think is the most likely to be a fucking hit.

"If We have no medium-hard reads"

REASONING

Luciano's will most likely pick an anti-town role, one of which is probably tailor who can make the other a citizen or something.
Therefore an anti-town role has a 50% chance of being scum since Mattzed probably included some townies with anti-town roles.
A soft read by comparison is usally given about a 25-33% chance
~Logical Reasoning Complements Of Me

[Unknown1234]

Town: Duck, Unknown, possibly PTB (I sense retarded logic being used, but that's not necessarily scummy)
Null: Voss (seems to be genuinely confused/ lost so SLIGHTLY town here), Kovath, Gaslight
Scum: Shifty, Mesk

Is G4 Null because you haven't heard enough from him? Because he has 1 post so far

[SexyDucK]

That is Italian not Spanish.

Who the fuck cares?

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Spoiler : No :

"If We have no medium-hard reads"

REASONING

Luciano's will most likely pick an anti-town role, one of which is probably tailor who can make the other a citizen or something.
Therefore an anti-town role has a 50% chance of being scum since Mattzed probably included some townies with anti-town roles.
A soft read by comparison is usally given about a 25-33% chance
~Logical Reasoning Complements Of Me

NO SETUP SPEC PLEASE.

Is G4 Null because you haven't heard enough from him? Because he has 1 post so far

Well duh.

Do you have anything else to say about my reads?

[Unknown1234]

Town: BCD Logically Insane,

Null: Shifty, Voss, G4, Duck

Scum: GET, Kovath

[Logically Insane]

Who the fuck cares?

I'm just going to point out that this guy is literally just posting.

You're Terrible
No one cares.
Blah Blah Look At Me Acting like I'm contributing with these pointless shitposts.

Instead of ya know. Trying to add things to the discussion, introduce points and stuff.
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[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Town: BCD Logically Insane,

Null: Shifty, Voss, G4, Duck

Scum: GET, Kovath

What makes you town-read Logically Insane?

What makes you conclude 'null' on Shifty and Duck?

Explain your scum-read on GET please.

[Unknown1234]

NO SETUP SPEC PLEASE.



Well duh.

Do you have anything else to say about my reads?

Could you be a little bit more specific as to why Kovath is null? As well as Logically Insane if you can

[God Emperor Trudeau]

Town: Duck, Unknown, possibly PTB (I sense retarded logic being used, but that's not necessarily scummy)
Null: Voss (seems to be genuinely confused/ lost so SLIGHTLY town here), Kovath, Gaslight
Scum: Shifty, Mesk

this is clearly a calix reading lynch me, you get nothing useful out of me until i fully read. your read is based of my policy lynch and my 2 comments which were based on an interaction, i didn't ask anyone to comment.

hard to continue reading when you have some prissy girl adding her 2 cents to a policy lynch interaction.

[SexyDucK]

I'm just going to point out that this guy is literally just posting.

You're Terrible
No one cares.
Blah Blah Look At Me Acting like I'm contributing with these pointless shitposts.

Instead of ya know. Trying to add things to the discussion, introduce points and stuff.
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I will add some points to the discussion:

.......

Done.

[Logically Insane]

NO SETUP SPEC PLEASE.



Well duh.

Do you have anything else to say about my reads?

*Ahem* The SCUM GET TO CHOOSE THEIR ROLE.

THATS THE MAIN POINT.
Scum will choose anti town roles.
If they want to act pro-town roles, they'll chose double tailor and tailor each otehr as citizen since it is infinitely more optimal than choosing cit.

we aren't setup speculating what the hosts says as much as what roles luciano will pick speculating. I just added the setup spec enhance the point not make the point.

[SexyDucK]

Town: BCD Logically Insane,

Null: Shifty, Voss, G4, Duck

Scum: GET, Kovath

Why am I null and not scum based on your previous reads on me this game?

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Could you be a little bit more specific as to why Kovath is null? As well as Logically Insane if you can

Logically Insane isn't null.

Kovath has done nothing that he wouldn't do as any alignment. He's posting like the usual.

this is clearly a calix reading lynch me, you get nothing useful out of me until i fully read. your read is based of my policy lynch and my 2 comments which were based on an interaction, i didn't ask anyone to comment.

hard to continue reading when you have some prissy girl adding her 2 cents to a policy lynch interaction.

"I didn't ask anyone to comment" - What fucking logic is this?

It's not a policy lynch. I think you are scum purposely avoiding the discussion. Massive difference.

I'll take prissy as a compliment.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

*Ahem* The SCUM GET TO CHOOSE THEIR ROLE.

THATS THE MAIN POINT.
Scum will choose anti town roles.
If they want to act pro-town roles, they'll chose double tailor and tailor each otehr as citizen since it is infinitely more optimal than choosing cit.

we aren't setup speculating what the hosts says as much as what roles luciano will pick speculating. I just added the setup spec enhance the point not make the point.

WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE SCUM ARE OR WHAT THEY'LL DO.

SCUM WILL NOT TELL THE TRUTH.

IT'S A WASTE OF TIME.

STOP.

[Logically Insane]

I will add some points to the discussion:

.......

Done.

Other player On This Archon, Please Talk With This Guy Outside of Game To Stop Shitposting or you will be policy lynched for literal shitposting for 3 pages when people are actually trying to have discussion.

[SexyDucK]

*Ahem* The SCUM GET TO CHOOSE THEIR ROLE.

THATS THE MAIN POINT.
Scum will choose anti town roles.
If they want to act pro-town roles, they'll chose double tailor and tailor each otehr as citizen since it is infinitely more optimal than choosing cit.

we aren't setup speculating what the hosts says as much as what roles luciano will pick speculating. I just added the setup spec enhance the point not make the point.

Are you saying you picked anti-town roles? I for one can say I don't have the slightest fucking clue what roles the luciano's picked, and dont see a clear best two roles for them to pick. All it does is add confusion to town, you really do want chaos dont you.

-DucK

[Unknown1234]

What makes you town-read Logically Insane?

What makes you conclude 'null' on Shifty and Duck?

Explain your scum-read on GET please.

GET= Between the three posts made, they haven't provided anything and have been mostly attacks on people.

Shifty seems to be getting scum read due to that post about Luciano over the FBI. It just doesn't seem to me like something that a scum would say, mostly because it would be too obvious and Scum would be more likely to over think their comments especially around the beginning when points are being made.

Logically insane is a very light town read (should have specified) because I can see where they are headed but they don't have a lot posted. I think they would be ranked at my #2 slot, though most people are null on my list due to the lack of posting (understandable)

[SexyDucK]

Other player On This Archon, Please Talk With This Guy Outside of Game To Stop Shitposting or you will be policy lynched for literal shitposting for 3 pages when people are actually trying to have discussion.

That was the other guy dumbfuck, every other post was me

-DucK