S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3

[oliverz144]

You wanna like not vote me over the red check though?
Thanks.

HOW ABOIT YOU VOTE THE RED CHECK AND THEN SHOVE YOUR EGO INTO ONE SPECIFIC PLACE

I CLEWRLY STATED WHY I VOTED YOU
MORE READING LESS BRAGGING PLS
GRRRRR

[Helz]

Well I gotta run. I do think hunting outside of Cape is our best use of time. Huo is extremely likely town all things considered and Cape is likely going to be the days end lynch. Very weird potentials exist like Huo being corruptor and such but the chances are so small and the play would be so illogical for that to exist that its not even worth considering imo.

All things considered I am pretty happy with how N2 played out.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

Yes i understand your plan Mr Magician

-Huohuo

[MartinGG99]

We do still need to consider Cape's role given there is a pro-town utility role in neutrals but it would be a very tough sell for us to do so. The only real potential I could see is if I marry them to grab their exact role and we let them fight for a town win or bounty hunter kill before D4. The downside would be that if they are some other flavor of evil and bounty hunter is killed I will need to die to take them down.

I read this like four times and don't really get it. Expanding on it probably would be necessary.

[oliverz144]

Here is another reason it’s Mizery and Oliver.

Mizery still has refused to vote the Red Checked Cape and I don’t know if they mentioned Cape yet, they clearly had Cape at the lowest priority to execute in their PoE prior to the red check.

Oliver voted me because I didn’t vote Cape and also suspects Auwt for not catching up or whatever.
But doesn’t even look at the fact Mizery is still against voting out Cape.

Yeah PERHAPS BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT VOTING CAPE YET SCUMREADING EVERYONE IN THE MOST COKY AND IMPERTINENT WAY WHO IS DOING THE SAME THING WITH AN EXPLAINED REASONOR WHO EVEN DID TGAT PRIOR TL DARONG TO DO THE FORBIDDEN TABU AND CRITIXING YKUR GLUTEUS MAXIMUS

[MartinGG99]

HOW ABOIT YOU VOTE THE RED CHECK AND THEN SHOVE YOUR EGO INTO ONE SPECIFIC PLACE

I CLEWRLY STATED WHY I VOTED YOU
MORE READING LESS BRAGGING PLS
GRRRRR

I have never seen a plane get this angry before

but yeah @DM you're a little over the top today with your ego lol, I don't mind it, but others do I guess

[oliverz144]

Legit if your wolf you cannot win out of it.

notice how this bad person plays with a bunch of fake confidence, look at the "IF"

[Dark Magician]

Pondering the the cape claim

with bounty hunter out

mafia flower child prob makes more sense than town

mafia would need the extra protection if they got unlucky and no one was confirmed town, as well as the possibility of bounty hunter denying a mafia kill

that's my 2 cents of setup speculation

Yep.
I said exactly that.
I said Cape is the Mafia Variant of their claim.

I also see MM finally realizes Mizery is a wolf so that’s nice.
I also don’t think MM is a wolf anymore.
Probably just Oliver.

[Dark Magician]

For the record don’t get me wrong.

I don’t consider myself a “Mafia God”
But I am a player with good read accuracy.

[Dark Magician]

notice how this bad person plays with a bunch of fake confidence, look at the "IF"

Question Oliver.
“When” Cape and Mizery flip wolf, are you still going to call me a wolf?

[Dark Magician]

HOW ABOIT YOU VOTE THE RED CHECK AND THEN SHOVE YOUR EGO INTO ONE SPECIFIC PLACE

I CLEWRLY STATED WHY I VOTED YOU
MORE READING LESS BRAGGING PLS
GRRRRR

I can do what I want.

[Auwt]

Seeing Luka townread pretty much everything, sooo
Do you have any scumreads, good sir?

Also, where is @Auwt? He hasn't been around in ages, and lots of things have happened. Reads?

Yeah I made a quick post, I'm almost certain that if we take down DM / Mizery we get two evils down.
I'm also open for the red check Huo has got, although I'm currently catching up.

[Dark Magician]

Yeah PERHAPS BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT VOTING CAPE YET SCUMREADING EVERYONE IN THE MOST COKY AND IMPERTINENT WAY WHO IS DOING THE SAME THING WITH AN EXPLAINED REASONOR WHO EVEN DID TGAT PRIOR TL DARONG TO DO THE FORBIDDEN TABU AND CRITIXING YKUR GLUTEUS MAXIMUS

Lol looks like you lost it at the end there eh? Lol.

Anyway, here’s the thing.
Mizery has been soft defending Cape and when Cape was red checked Mizery wanted to give themselves a reason not to vote Cape.

Meanwhile I’m just admitting I am not voting Cape because they are going to go over anyway.

[Dark Magician]

I don’t need to give some fake ass reason because unlike Mizery, I actually stated a wolf read on Cape.

[Dark Magician]

Since like Day 1 when I said they were acting odd all the way up to today where I now lock them wolf.

[Auwt]

Still the possibility that he's the evil teacher and not grave digger

As far as I'm aware, an Evil Teacher would have no idea if a person is a "red check", because to gamble they would have to target two guys that would share different alignment, hence killing them.
Thus Grave Digger is significantly more plausible.

[Dark Magician]

Yeah I made a quick post, I'm almost certain that if we take down DM / Mizery we get two evils down.
I'm also open for the red check Huo has got, although I'm currently catching up.

Oh you think we both wolves?

You think I’m bussing both Mizery and Cape here?
What am I gaining from that?

[Dark Magician]

As far as I'm aware, an Evil Teacher would have no idea if a person is a "red check", because to gamble they would have to target two guys that would share different alignment, hence killing them.
Thus Grave Digger is significantly more plausible.

Yes exactly,
Mizery just used that as an excuse to not vote Cape.

[oliverz144]

I read this like four times and don't really get it. Expanding on it probably would be necessary.

cape isn't town
but could be neutral
so eat thjs dm
im aligned in a team with a possible neutral??!?

[Dark Magician]

Also Auwt an easy way to disprove your thought of me and Mizery being wolves, Hau will get a difference check tonight and then you can just vote off Mizery and realize I’m obvious town.

[Dark Magician]

cape isn't town
but could be neutral
so eat thjs dm
im aligned in a team with a possible neutral??!?

Cape ain’t Neut.
He was very obvious mafia since day 1 and if he survives today we know he is Mafia Flower.

[Dark Magician]

Unless he already tried using it on you if you are indeed Cape and Mizery’s teammate.

[oliverz144]

Question Oliver.
“When” Cape and Mizery flip wolf, are you still going to call me a wolf?

where did i call you a wolf?
if you sre scum, thrn probably only outside of the game

[Auwt]

Anyways Town.

Whoever is Town.
My Striving Alignment.

For my legacy words and future legacy words until this game ends:
Cape is Evil
So is Mizery.

Don’t vote Tail.

Yeah Cape is legit Red Checked.
Not surprising.
I basically also have a light red check on the entire team of Cape/Mizery + Likely MM.

Mizery is in Mizery and clearly put their head down in shame.

Like this is just how a wolf talks about another wolf.
“Cape more likely to be town in this scenario imo, since he was the most recent vote on bakermir and might have been more self conscious about that unless he expected things to move.”

For context this is Mizery’s read on Cape.


Also when MM talks about Mizery and interacts with them it feels wolf pair aligned, blah.

lets just say i may have mechanical information that the team is DM/Cape + lily

Nice Try.
Your allot more aligned with Cape lol.

Not going to say how it’s half mech half social.
Just that it is.

Indeed, gotta agree that your whole discussion with... Mizery, is just two wolves distancing each other.

[Dark Magician]

Auwt do you honestly still think I’m a wolf with both Mizery and Cape?
It’s likely Oliver tbh as the last.

[Dark Magician]

Just from Oliver’s reaction on me here.

[Dark Magician]

where did i call you a wolf?
if you sre scum, thrn probably only outside of the game

You called me a wolf outside of the game?
What?

Also you are voting me and not Cape.
Why are you voting me if you don’t wolf read me?
You are also clearly pushing me.

[oliverz144]

Just from Oliver’s reaction on me here.

Ergh what?

Action! i did an action, sussing you for not voting cape, not an reaction!

To try and reframe the whole situation is just laughable


Meh. i dont even know if i should keep discussing

You know they say you shouldn't arguw with an idiot


Dont worry.

I want you to vote me first d2 right now.

Can you do that for me please?

Keeping the sinking ship alive is hurtful.


Being in my position you would do the same.

Im kinda sad. and shocked.

To do what im doing... whatever.

Can you pls do what im asking you?

Having me another day in the game is not in your interests

!!!

[oliverz144]

You called me a wolf outside of the game?
What?

Also you are voting me and not Cape.
Why are you voting me if you don’t wolf read me?
You are also clearly pushing me.

im pressing you like iron is heated, without air, mixed with the dark and dirty coal.
Perhaps you are the strongest steel. or probably slag

[Auwt]

Cape ain’t Neut.
He was very obvious mafia since day 1 and if he survives today we know he is Mafia Flower.

If Cape is very obvious mafia since day 1, where has your vote been throughout D1 ?
Dont get too hasted on what you've planned with your other teammates.


Huo Huo and Mr Tail (3): Marshmallow Marshall, MartinGG99, bwcPorscha
oliverz144 (3): bakermir, Huo Huo and Mr Tail, Helz
bakermir (4): oliverz144, Mizery, scumbot5679, Cape90
Marshmallow Marshall (1): Auwt
Cape90 (1): Lilypetal
Skip Day (3): Luka; Dark Magician; Varcron

[oliverz144]

If Cape is very obvious mafia since day 1, where has your vote been throughout D1 ?
Dont get too hasted on what you've planned with your other teammates.


Huo Huo and Mr Tail (3): Marshmallow Marshall, MartinGG99, bwcPorscha
oliverz144 (3): bakermir, Huo Huo and Mr Tail, Helz
bakermir (4): oliverz144, Mizery, scumbot5679, Cape90
Marshmallow Marshall (1): Auwt
Cape90 (1): Lilypetal
Skip Day (3): Luka; Dark Magician; Varcron

out of the shadow he rises
fighting against conf biases
holder of logic and rational
bringing deserved for all

yeaj d2 was a shithole so far ngl

[Auwt]

Auwt do you honestly still think I’m a wolf with both Mizery and Cape?
It’s likely Oliver tbh as the last.

I have mostly skimmed through some of olivers posts, a word that would come up from my perspective is "Anger".
Did not strike me the same as "Wolf bussing Wolf".

[oliverz144]

oh don't worry he's such a good mafia player
he doesn't need to vote the vaddies, him naming the wolfes is enough

[Auwt]

Actually LOL we can GG this. Spite Mizery to the Moon.

Tail, Choose me and Mizery as your next check.

Let’s make sure the Doctor be on you.

Are you Monk by any mean?

[oliverz144]

yeah dm could be scum
as soon as i called him out he lashed onto me, very self-concerned...

[Marshmallow Marshall]

yeah dm could be scum
as soon as i called him out he lashed onto me, very self-concerned...

I don't think he's scum because of this. In fact, it fits with his general behavior, one that really fits the "overly confident townie" canvas. And by this, I mean his head is the size of the British Isles lol (or at least that's how he appears; if that isn't your goal, DM, well... you still appear that way lol), but that doesn't make him scum in any way. I honestly like that you're getting annoyed at him because I 100 % relate xD, but I don't think you have actual points to call him scum. You seem to mostly be calling him wrong/unworthy of arguing like he does/annoying, which are fair but NAI points.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I have never seen a plane get this angry before

but yeah @DM you're a little over the top today with your ego lol, I don't mind it, but others do I guess

gives a whole new meaning to engines roaring

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Also, my brain is suffering a critical failure atm apparently, I don't feel so good, so if I say dumb crap, that's why
I probably should rest or something lol.

[oliverz144]

gives a whole new meaning to engines roaring

hehe he yeah that's funny. you are right

[Mizery]

Ok nvm

[Mizery]

Oh shit there's another page

[oliverz144]

what exactly did cape claim again?

[Helz]

Chewed on it a bit and on a cape lynch-

Only real potential for Huo to be scum post flip would be if they are a ghost leveraging to get lynched or if they are mafia and the no kill resulted from hitting a night immune which he is now using to push a lynch. This could only be if he is mafia so if Cape flips Mafia Huo is basically confirmed town.

For the lunch itself we should overstack votes on cape in case a Shadow exists. It would give the mafia a vote block of 6.
Evil flower child could exist preventing capes lynch if he is mafia. When I’m back at my computer I will need to ask the host if when that happens it’s a no lynch or if the runner up gets lynched. If it’s the second option we will need a valid secondary train to prevent them using that to knock out a target.
Cape could be vengeful. If so I’m probably dead. Nothing to be done about that but it’s a thing

[Helz]

what exactly did cape claim again?

I do not believe he did. Sense the red check claim he has not spoken. Frozen/busy/belly up wolf. One of those.. as the day goes on it will be more apparent which

[oliverz144]

I do not believe he did. Sense the red check claim he has not spoken. Frozen/busy/belly up wolf. One of those.. as the day goes on it will be more apparent which

ok... then why exactly does hehave to be mafia and not neutral?
we can stil lynch him thats fine

[Helz]

ok... then why exactly does hehave to be mafia and not neutral?
we can stil lynch him thats fine

I don’t mean that he does. If he is a night immune neutral it opens a potential for Huo to be team scum making a play off a failed kill. Those chances are more likely if kill immunity feedback is given. If Cape is Mafia Huo is as close to confirmed town as possible without a mechanical function. If Cape is a neutral Huo should not be considered confirmed but his claim is self resolving. If true he will get killed by scum or find another scum. If false time will show that. For what it’s worth the teacher role is one factor that made me want to play Bride the way I am as it allows the teacher to function as a sheriff. He is playing his night actions perfectly if he is honest.

[Helz]

Actually, easier protection from evil flower child would be if we just all agree as a town not to vote anyone but cape. Would make a mafia have to reveal themselves to make that play. It’s simpler than trying to stack votes to counter a shadow while also building a secondary train. Superior play imo.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

Seems like some people missed it but cape claimed flower child

Which is obviously a lie

-Huohuo

[Mizery]

Seems like some people missed it but cape claimed flower child

Which is obviously a lie

-Huohuo

I mean he can be mafia flower child

[Auwt]

-vote Cape90

I will go for it.
Just let it be noted that I believe/expect DM to be one of those roles :
-Maf overall (if cape is not, no vote D1 with an "obvious maf -cape90-", playing Wolf vs Wolf with Mizery)
-Monk (trying to force to vote Mizery off in order to save him)
-Ghost (overall disruption of the game, mostly this D2)