S-FM 302: Magellan (15p)

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

I give up.

Mafia concede?

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

I give up.

Bro if you want to end the day just vote Joha

Otherwise let us have our fun

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Are we allowed to out our player name?

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Mafia concede?

Literally in no world has it ever made sense for me to be Mafia.

This isn't even funny.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Literally in no world has it ever made sense for me to be Mafia.

This isn't even funny.

Its a little funny

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Its a little funny

yes I'm sure you're having a grand old time

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

yes I'm sure you're having a grand old time

I am, thank you Bart

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Joha is technically L-1

He is supposed to hammer himself as promised. Psh.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Literally in no world has it ever made sense for me to be Mafia.

This isn't even funny.

This is a flipless setup no Night KP. Ok in no world is Joha winning this setup. There is litterly no point in keeping him alive. It is so anti tiwm to be saving him. we need to make sure mafia can not get the majority votes. the fact you want him alive in no world makes any sence. just lynch him and end this night mare. PLEASE> FOr the LOVE OF GOD END IT ALREADY!!!

Let me ask you bart will you lynch me over Joha?

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

I am, thank you Bart

If you are mafia well played!!!!

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

If you are mafia well played!!!!

Thank you Fred

But if I am mafia I have already lost lol

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Joha is technically L-1

He is supposed to hammer himself as promised. Psh.

Sorry to end our fun but I need sleep have to get up in 5 hours drive for 2 hours

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Let me ask you bart will you lynch me over Joha?

No of course not but it won't come down to that.
I don't know how else to say it. I think it's morally wrong to kill a Survivor just because you're scared he will somehow turn his back on you and take over the game.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Thank you Fred

But if I am mafia I have already lost lol

I know I just wish Bart could see that.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

It actually makes sense guys. Mulan framed me, their mafia mate as neutral n1

Checkmate. GG ez

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

It actually makes sense guys. Mulan framed me, their mafia mate as neutral n1

Checkmate. GG ez

This is the argument I expected you to make 5 pages ago. This is the Town argument.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

No of course not but it won't come down to that.
I don't know how else to say it. I think it's morally wrong to kill a Survivor just because you're scared he will somehow turn his back on you and take over the game.

Why do you want to trust a player that has continuously done anti town shit?

You take Quinne for their word. Joha for their word. You know people can lie, right? You know people have that capability, right?

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

No of course not but it won't come down to that.
I don't know how else to say it. I think it's morally wrong to kill a Survivor just because you're scared he will somehow turn his back on you and take over the game.

NO NO NO you have it all wrong. We have to lynch him becuse MAfia can be hidding in his claim. He has not played like a survivor. He has all game been playing like a NE or MAfia not NB that already has a win. HOW the Heck do you not see that? That is what is blowing my mind.
You know I am 100% town why the hell would I be leading you down the wrong path. Just lynch the NE or MAfia. Joha is not Pro town. I would lynch him if he claimed VT. He has played Anti town. Why do you think So many town are on him. OMG Lynch the Evil guy. YOu are acting like he is your partner. you defending him is Awfull.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Why do you want to trust a player that has continuously done anti town shit?

You take Quinne for their word. Joha for their word. You know people can lie, right? You know people have that capability, right?

Since you think Wilbird is NE ok i Get that

YOu know I am Town 100%

I am saying Joha has done anti town all game.

I had to hard push Wilbird to lynch him This is a 100% confirmed Town player pushing this lynch not Mafia motavated. How do you not see this?

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

NO NO NO you have it all wrong. We have to lynch him becuse MAfia can be hidding in his claim. He has not played like a survivor. He has all game been playing like a NE or MAfia not NB that already has a win. HOW the Heck do you not see that? That is what is blowing my mind.
You know I am 100% town why the hell would I be leading you down the wrong path. Just lynch the NE or MAfia. Joha is not Pro town. I would lynch him if he claimed VT. He has played Anti town. Why do you think So many town are on him. OMG Lynch the Evil guy. YOu are acting like he is your partner. you defending him is Awfull.

He revealed himself as Benign neut when he was literally under zero pressure to reveal.
As far as I can tell, mafia have no way of determining what the dead are.
Claiming a benign neut role with the possibility of counterclaim from the real one is suicide.
He is not mafia pretending to be benign neut.
He is benign neut.
Lynching him on the possibility of him being mafia is illogical.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

He revealed himself as Benign neut when he was literally under zero pressure to reveal.
As far as I can tell, mafia have no way of determining what the dead are.
Claiming a benign neut role with the possibility of counterclaim from the real one is suicide.
He is not mafia pretending to be benign neut.
He is benign neut.
Lynching him on the possibility of him being mafia is illogical.

Not when there is an unconfirmed role in GY That was lynched day 2 that could have been NB. And on day 3 all of town beged the NB to out (joha claimed he one day 1 lynch keep in mind) NO NB outed. on Day 6 Makes perfect sence to out like he did. Hell if I was Mafia or NE I would have outed as NB and costed to the end win and town loss and rubbed towns nose in it.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

He revealed himself as Benign neut when he was literally under zero pressure to reveal.
As far as I can tell, mafia have no way of determining what the dead are.
Claiming a benign neut role with the possibility of counterclaim from the real one is suicide.
He is not mafia pretending to be benign neut.
He is benign neut.
Lynching him on the possibility of him being mafia is illogical.

He is admitted non town

You'd rather lynch a town player in a probable MLYLO on the word of a mafia player over a self admitted non town player

This is inherently anti town.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Bart Joha is fake and if you are a good mafia player you should see that. Unless you are just mafia. WHY would I be pushing this world you know I am town. you are acting like I might be mafia here and not trusting me. If Joha was real he would have outed D3 and I would be takeing him to the end as a confirmed. and town would have a lock win.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

He is admitted non town

You'd rather lynch a town player in a probable MLYLO on the word of a mafia player over a self admitted non town player

This is inherently anti town.

Who is the "Town" player in this scenario supposed to be?

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Bart Joha is fake and if you are a good mafia player you should see that. Unless you are just mafia. WHY would I be pushing this world you know I am town. you are acting like I might be mafia here and not trusting me. If Joha was real he would have outed D3 and I would be takeing him to the end as a confirmed. and town would have a lock win.

Fred, this has come up a few times this game. I know you are Town but that doesn't mean that the things you say are true.
I will continue to disagree where I see fit.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Screw it at this point I am decided I am lynching Bart after quinne.
He has given good logic all game and now he is playing Dumb town.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Who is the "Town" player in this scenario supposed to be?

Bart Bart Bart. You yourself town read me until Quinne poisoned my image.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Screw it at this point I am decided I am lynching Bart after quinne.
He has given good logic all game and now he is playing Dumb town.

No, you'll lynch me.

I dont care what you do after that

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Fred, this has come up a few times this game. I know you are Town but that doesn't mean that the things you say are true.
I will continue to disagree where I see fit.

YUP my push to lynch Vlad day 2 was so bad. I am such a shit player right bart.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

When have I ever bowed to everybody else's wishes for fear of being labelled scum?

I stand by my convictions.

Being labeled scum is against any alignment's wincon. Apparently I've done a poor job of getting a lot of people to trust me.

I stand by my convictions too. Why are you scum reading me again? I think you're the third most likely town player me, fred, then you, but I fail to see why you fail to see how voting Joha is a good move. Survivors backstab all the time. Lost many a mod game due to it.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Screw it at this point I am decided I am lynching Bart after quinne.
He has given good logic all game and now he is playing Dumb town.

Decisions and statements like this are why I can't follow your reasoning.
You will have literally murdered 2 sheriffs and an ensign.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

No, you'll lynch me.

I dont care what you do after that

Hell no, I want to lynch Bart after Quinne. My vote will be on Quinne tomorrow. I think game ends once we lynch Joha Quinne and Bart.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

I dunno maybe this is a cultural thing. I have already made it clear I am not an American.

My honour system doesn't allow me to lynch a benign survivor who literally only needs to make it to the end to win with us. We should be able to achieve that wincon without risk of him having to turn on us. If we can't then shame on us.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Hell no, I want to lynch Bart after Quinne. My vote will be on Quinne tomorrow. I think game ends once we lynch Joha Quinne and Bart.

It will end quickly alright.
They will lynch you 4th.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Decisions and statements like this are why I can't follow your reasoning.
You will have literally murdered 2 sheriffs and an ensign.

You Truly belive Mag would put 2 sheriffs in a setup with no night KP? That is so Town sided not even balanced? NO way MM would apporve that setup. in no world was there 2 sheriffs. That is BS. you where ok with the Tri claim. lynching mulan and then Qunne now today when it is Quinnes turn you will not lynch him. and the BSclaim NB you are not willling to lynch I belive you have just outed the last mafia. QUINNE JOHA AND BART!!!!!

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

YUP my push to lynch Vlad day 2 was so bad. I am such a shit player right bart.

Dude why do you keep bragging about this?
You had at least a 50% chance of being right and Vlad was by far the scummier claim.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

Hell no, I want to lynch Bart after Quinne. My vote will be on Quinne tomorrow. I think game ends once we lynch Joha Quinne and Bart.

I vote Eddy after Quinne. He's definitely not town.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Hell no, I want to lynch Bart after Quinne. My vote will be on Quinne tomorrow. I think game ends once we lynch Joha Quinne and Bart.

NO

I refuse to vote anyone but myself after Quinne

Or I may vote you

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

WE HAVE A PLAN

CAN EVERYONE STOP CHANGING THE PLAN

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

I dunno maybe this is a cultural thing. I have already made it clear I am not an American.

My honour system doesn't allow me to lynch a benign survivor who literally only needs to make it to the end to win with us. We should be able to achieve that wincon without risk of him having to turn on us. If we can't then shame on us.

HE IS LIEING. IF that is your Honor Why you playing MAfia??????? I am not even talking to you you are confiremd mafia to me now. Good night.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

You Truly belive Mag would put 2 sheriffs in a setup with no night KP? That is so Town sided not even balanced? NO way MM would apporve that setup. in no world was there 2 sheriffs. That is BS. you where ok with the Tri claim. lynching mulan and then Qunne now today when it is Quinnes turn you will not lynch him. and the BSclaim NB you are not willling to lynch I belive you have just outed the last mafia. QUINNE JOHA AND BART!!!!!

Please think before you type Fred.

This is beyond ludicrous.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Dude why do you keep bragging about this?
You had at least a 50% chance of being right and Vlad was by far the scummier claim.

I had a 50% Dude It was confirmed in my eyes. Forget it done talking to you untill I lynch you .

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

NO

I refuse to vote anyone but myself after Quinne

Or I may vote you

Dude I know you want out but you are not mafia here.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

I had a 50% Dude It was confirmed in my eyes. Forget it done talking to you untill I lynch you .

Keep killing Town. Soon there'll be none left.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

WE HAVE A PLAN

CAN EVERYONE STOP CHANGING THE PLAN

Do you think Edoua is mafia?

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Keep killing Town. Soon there'll be none left.

HMM what town have I killed?

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Do you think Edoua is mafia?

I think he could be.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Keep killing Town. Soon there'll be none left.

All you have done is try and discredit me (hmm mafia move)

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

HMM what town have I killed?

I dunno if you were part of Jiles lynch.
You killed Lois.
You'll kill me and Quinn.

At least 4

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

Do you think Edoua is mafia?

I dont know. I havent bothered to look into it because I wont be making the choice