S-FM 339: ?KRC, M-FM edition

[FM-Arcade]

HELLO EVERYONE!!!!

It is I, the lord of KRC Mooofia and I declare myself safe from everyone in this realm
I am hard claiming a neutral role entitled "North Korean Information Smuggler".

My win condition is to accumulate $1,000,000 which currently i have none

In order for me to accumulate the money.
I must infiltrate up to 2 people during the night and I can talk and acquire their night info (inc. private message to host) and sell the said information to other players

For now, I have no information and I can begin looking for it a night and onwards

Bidding starts at day 2 (2 top bidders will get both information)

Bidding rules:
- Starts at $10,000
- Multiples of 10,000 only for the succeeding bids

Note: An unknown loan shark will lend you the money for every multiple of 10,000. It will increase the chance of you dying during the night by 1%

Example. If you bid $50,000. There would be a chance for you to die 5% during the night


FAQs

My liege, why are you claiming your role day 1?
It is because to keep me from either alignment's harm.
There's also a chance for me to win on day 1 when a single person bids $1,000,000 (which has a 100% death rate)

My liege, what if the players lynched or killed you during the night?
The killer is fucking insane. Why kill me? I am beneficial to both alignments.

My liege, what happens if you win?
My voting powers are not counted and I can only post up to 10x per day (until I got killed/lynched)

My liege, is there a chance you are faking your role and alignment?
Of course not, I would be glad if someone would investigate me during the night and can confirm I am harmless

My liege, how do I bid
Just type -Bid ##,###
Example: -Bid 10,000

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

-Bid .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
I suggest people that want whatever just cut 1 zero in their bids.

[FM-Arcade]

I should clarify that I can only get the ff. information with this format

Infiltration Ability:
During the night - only 10-20% out of 100% of information
After 2 nights- Full information


Thank you for having me! I hope I have many customers tomorrow!

[FM-Arcade]

-Bid .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
I suggest people that want whatever just cut 1 zero in their bids.

Hello good customer.

The bidding starts on day 2 and the minimum bid starts at 10,000
Succeeding bids are only multiples of 10,000

Thank you for your patronage

[FM-Arcade]

Hello good customer.

The bidding starts on day 2 and the minimum bid starts at 10,000
Succeeding bids are only multiples of 10,000

Thank you for your patronage

10,000, 20,000, 30,000 and so on~

[FM-Myopia]

I don't think Bizzaro Pepsi is in any sort of mafia-chat or otherwise

no one else of the 15 players who have posted so far bought Bizzaro's crab

I can confirm this because apparently successfully buying it informs you of the delivery of the crab by next phase change

so I think this heavily implies Bizzaro is either town or independent / 3rd party

unlikely to be wolf who was asking for cash (not to mention the fact they could've gone anonymous as well it seems)

Or ... you are his scummate
given the fact not everybody did even check in, it is too early to do such a conclusion.

Good morning everybody! You discussers up there on higher pages!

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

I do not believe you but you are claiming something self confirming so I do not need to.

That claim will sort itself over time.

I got some feedback and I am a bit confused about some functions of my condition but it looks like every vote on my will invert alignment feedback. The real issue is that it includes 'hidden votes.'

The fact that hidden votes exist is a very substantial problem imo. It not only means scum can manipulate how alignment checks are read but also how lynches are decided without allowing for wagonomics to sort decisions in the late game..

[FM-Myopia]

anyone who doesn't see the problem with FM-Its Something's post there

should consider themselves scumread

or if they're town re-think how they're solving this game

Hello pain, im scumread!

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

I do not believe you but you are claiming something self confirming so I do not need to.

That claim will sort itself over time.

I got some feedback and I am a bit confused about some functions of my condition but it looks like every vote on my will invert alignment feedback. The real issue is that it includes 'hidden votes.'

The fact that hidden votes exist is a very substantial problem imo. It not only means scum can manipulate how alignment checks are read but also how lynches are decided without allowing for wagonomics to sort decisions in the late game..

I need to go to bed..

Every vote on me will invert alignment feedback. I am assuming that means it will just screw with sheriffs and such.

[FM-Myopia]

I'm softing Reality Bender.

Please don't dump the market with a bunch of cheap useless stuff

[FM-Father and Sun]

Good golly it's somethings opening is wolfy af

[FM-Father and Sun]

-vote FM-Its SOMETHING

[FM-Father and Sun]

Ditto on the receipt of gold.

Same

[FM-Father and Sun]

While I don't think that there's any reason to worry about claiming the gold gained (I got 2000 as well) I like ohno questioning whether or not they should do it, and being the first to bring it up. They can be tentatively town for now.

Seems an odd reason to town read someone.

What's towny about it?

[FM-Father and Sun]

That whole "this is stupid" thing by ohno didn't feel natural to me tbh.
You can give ohno that premature looking tentative town read if you want to. I give you a tentative scum read for now.

Oh maybe I'm wrong about you. Bit of a mind meld here

[FM-Myopia]

town wouldn't know if mafia know or didn't know that there are multiple evils (either mafia teams or just mafia + independents)

so no I can't see that from your "town" perspective



im sorry

(I don't mean actual sorry, I mean the sassy sorry)

I don't buy that you find mechanics discussion irrelevant when you said this before realizing your mistake after I pointed it out:



The orange part being the same style of notion....which I made earlier



Oh, look, its the same sentence that you highlighted earlier! Except you didn't highlight that orange part and somehow read over and totally ignored in order to somehow be town doing a mistaken comment which is somehow totally not a TMI slip

Tell me how scum knows that they are the only scums in the game

[FM-Father and Sun]

You box out the wolves when you have a towncore...

have a vote

-vote FM-Comrade PickleRadish

I get why your making this vote but I find comrades post more bad strat than open wolfy

[FM-Myopia]

My attorneys have advised me that I have the right to remain silent. For this reason, I will keep my trap shut and offer limited opinions and the cops will probably come after my ass cuz I have a nice ass (i didn't say so, my attorney did).

I have Myopia (see* what i did there?).

Somebody called me?

[FM-Myopia]

I have KP now, if you don't stop speaking in riddles I'm killing you tonight because you are annoying me.

Even then d2 will be full of him

[FM-Father and Sun]

I feel like it's so easy to scumread BB and Comrade right now, even if only for disagreeing about theory or whatever. Which is why I want to townread this post by Forsaken.

OK coming around to its something being legit. It's either a good wolf or just town

-vote FM- Kitty Cat Dance

[FM-Father and Sun]

anyone who doesn't see the problem with FM-Its Something's post there

should consider themselves scumread

or if they're town re-think how they're solving this game

I'm confused

[FM-Father and Sun]

anyone who doesn't see the problem with FM-Its Something's post there

should consider themselves scumread

or if they're town re-think how they're solving this game

OK I've gone back over it and I'm s5ill not fully getting what you are at

Are you saying something is scummy because they are town reading ppl who town read scummy ppl?

[FM-Father and Sun]

because you slipped that this is a town vs mafia game

only way your reason of "a Mafia in your position wouldn't like it either in a scenario where Forsaken is correct about Comrade and BB" could even remotely make a valid point in this context

otherwise I as "mafia" would have no knowledge what-so-ever as to who's town; only who's not-mafia

-vote FM- Mr Pain

[FM-Father and Sun]

@FM-Purple

Still want to buy that piece of art.

@FM-Comrade PickleRadish why do you want art and what does it give you

[FM-Father and Sun]

after thinking this through in a couple of ways

I can't imagine any universe where the hypothetical interaction of you giving me "Huh." and I respond with something because of that "Huh." is somehow meaningful to you

so I am noting this down as a scumread for later once SOMETHING is gone

Well at least you aren't aligned wolfing with kitty/something

[FM-Father and Sun]

I have KP now, if you don't stop speaking in riddles I'm killing you tonight because you are annoying me.

Purples a villager

[FM-Comrade PickleRadish]

@FM-Comrade PickleRadish why do you want art and what does it give you

art fills the void in my soul.... and gives me an ability

anyways im gonna go to sleep soon, im just gonna casually leave a vote and let it simmer for a bit

[FM-Comrade PickleRadish]

-vote FM- Mr Pain

[FM-Father and Sun]

okay wtf is going with this thread

no one is actually considering the TMI slip by SOMETHING (implicitly stating the game has only town + mafia in it through his attempt to scum-paint my caution over early town-readers) and no one is pressuring SOMETHING for it at all

like im not even talking votes

there's just 0 freaking pressure and yet im getting "huh." and votes on me

Because you aren't making any sense.

4 different players have agreed on my catch up.

At this point I think you need to lay out your logic for us properly

[FM-Father and Sun]

art fills the void in my soul.... and gives me an ability

anyways im gonna go to sleep soon, im just gonna casually leave a vote and let it simmer for a bit

OK I have art.

Would I lose something by selling you art? What sort of things do you grt?

[FM-Father and Sun]

I am not sure how much I can say but it seems I was infected by a parasite. I do not know what that means but it happened. It might be pertinent that it happened after the day phase started but I need some time to sort this issue

Uh oh

[FM-Father and Sun]

Ok so Purple owned either the 1893 Original, or the 1893 "Bootleg". If its the original, I am protected basically, and if its the bootleg, then I guess I am not just stealing art. I can't tell the difference btwn the two 1893s, but going off of

Its definitely not the 1895 (diff color scheme, less boats in background, literally looks like crayons instead of paint), or the 1910 (different face, greener hill).

However...




I am going to interpret Post #325, quoted above, as a potential breadcrumb towards which painting it actually is.

I have 1895 i think

[FM-Father and Sun]

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[FM-Father and Sun]

Art Thief is a town role. So you can consider me a member of the towncore that we've been arguing about hours ago.

Roles submitted have to be neutral so no thanks

[FM-Father and Sun]

Much like Shrek, roles are alignment neutral

Innit

[FM-Father and Sun]

HELLO EVERYONE!!!!

It is I, the lord of KRC Mooofia and I declare myself safe from everyone in this realm
I am hard claiming a neutral role entitled "North Korean Information Smuggler".

My win condition is to accumulate $1,000,000 which currently i have none

In order for me to accumulate the money.
I must infiltrate up to 2 people during the night and I can talk and acquire their night info (inc. private message to host) and sell the said information to other players

For now, I have no information and I can begin looking for it a night and onwards

Bidding starts at day 2 (2 top bidders will get both information)

Bidding rules:
- Starts at $10,000
- Multiples of 10,000 only for the succeeding bids

Note: An unknown loan shark will lend you the money for every multiple of 10,000. It will increase the chance of you dying during the night by 1%

Example. If you bid $50,000. There would be a chance for you to die 5% during the night


FAQs

My liege, why are you claiming your role day 1?
It is because to keep me from either alignment's harm.
There's also a chance for me to win on day 1 when a single person bids $1,000,000 (which has a 100% death rate)

My liege, what if the players lynched or killed you during the night?
The killer is fucking insane. Why kill me? I am beneficial to both alignments.

My liege, what happens if you win?
My voting powers are not counted and I can only post up to 10x per day (until I got killed/lynched)

My liege, is there a chance you are faking your role and alignment?
Of course not, I would be glad if someone would investigate me during the night and can confirm I am harmless

My liege, how do I bid
Just type -Bid ##,###
Example: -Bid 10,000

Sorry for your rand

[FM-Father and Sun]

OK I've read everything and caught up-
- Mr pain is wolfy
- it's something has done some wolfy stuff but nothing Mr pain is pointing at and I've mindmeldsd a bit so I'm not voting there today
- won't vote arcade
- kitty is wolfy
- dark unicorn is villagey I think. Infected wolves would behave differently imo

[FM-Father and Sun]

Reddish is focused solely on his alignment mechancis as far as I can tell.

Didn't notice him meaningfully getting involved.

Could be scum hiding behind mechanics or village who really likes their role

[FM-Eyes]

I don't think Bizzaro Pepsi is in any sort of mafia-chat or otherwise

no one else of the 15 players who have posted so far bought Bizzaro's crab

I can confirm this because apparently successfully buying it informs you of the delivery of the crab by next phase change

so I think this heavily implies Bizzaro is either town or independent / 3rd party

unlikely to be wolf who was asking for cash (not to mention the fact they could've gone anonymous as well it seems)

what

[FM-Mr Bones]

the ride never ends

[FM-Father and Sun]

what

Totally.

Everything about pain is weird.

Anyway, are you here to interact?

[FM-Father and Sun]

the ride never ends

Sup Bonesy.

Read the thread? Thoughts?

[FM-Eyes]

because you slipped that this is a town vs mafia game

only way your reason of "a Mafia in your position wouldn't like it either in a scenario where Forsaken is correct about Comrade and BB" could even remotely make a valid point in this context

otherwise I as "mafia" would have no knowledge what-so-ever as to who's town; only who's not-mafia

this is like
a bad take
the default assumption is that this has two factions
I don't see how that leaks TMI.

[FM-Father and Sun]

-vote FM-Mr Pain

@Pickle I don't think your vote registered

[FM-Eyes]

Really though. My name/avatar compared with Tesseract's name/avatar is something of note that can only be connected to host design. I do not know what it means but we may want to keep it in mind as days go on. There is a very obvious intention there.

this is what a bad wolf posts while they're trying to create antispew.

[FM-Myopia]

Bold:
1.Your "if Mr Pain is wolf then the town-reads he has concern over in X post are town" observation is the whole point why your observation is TMI. The only way that "observation" works is if both

a: I'm Mafia
b: I have knowledge that everyone is either the Mafia or Town alignment

Otherwise there is no reason within such an observation

2. Arguing my TMI argument in of itself is TMI that your observation is true.........ironically creates a "begging the question"-esque logical fallacy where if this were true then you just suggested that my reasoning about you TMI slipping is correct as well

Underlined:

Yes there is. Your whole concern about me generated the observation that those town-reads that I didn't like were likely proof that they were town if I were mafia.

Which. Cannot. Possibly. Work. in a world where there are independents or other factions that aren't the mafia or triad. Re-wind to point #1 above now.

Considering the triad
I had a so stupid idea pre game
That i think would be incredibly funny
But listen
What if we all claim.being members of the triad
And this thread here is our triad chat

[FM-Myopia]

Please dont see this as a scum claim

[FM-Myopia]

Its just a stupid idea

[FM-Eyes]

Good golly it's somethings opening is wolfy af

Speaking of wolfy openings

[FM-Myopia]

@FM-Dark Unicorn
IRL?

God beware conry