S-FM 216 Spirits

[PowersThatBe]

Exactly why we give him the rope.

yeah, so Stereo you're more than likely getting shot by vigi, you might wanna claim something if you wanna fight.

[Stereo]

yeah, so Stereo you're more than likely getting shot by vigi, you might wanna claim something if you wanna fight.

It's a waste of time to kill or lynch me.

[PowersThatBe]

It's a waste of time to kill or lynch me.

You need to hard claim. Just saying bs lke that is not going to help you. RN a lynch on you is good is because it removes you from our suspect pool, or you're scum.

[Stereo]

You need to hard claim. Just saying bs lke that is not going to help you. RN a lynch on you is good is because it removes you from our suspect pool, or you're scum.

Who are you, my supervisor? It doesn't matter what I claim. I'll either get the rope tomorrow or shot by a vig tonight.

[Gyrlander]

It's a waste of time to kill or lynch me.

Why?

[PowersThatBe]

Who are you, my supervisor? It doesn't matter what I claim. I'll either get the rope tomorrow or shot by a vig tonight.

I tried to help you. If you claim something, someone has to CC.

[Quick]

Who are you, my supervisor? It doesn't matter what I claim. I'll either get the rope tomorrow or shot by a vig tonight.

This doesn't seem like something Scum would say.

[PowersThatBe]

This doesn't seem like something Scum would say.

Unless he is resigned to the fact that he's done nmw.

[PowersThatBe]

I need a good night sleep. I'll be back tomorrow to look everything over again.

[Quick]

Unless he is resigned to the fact that he's done nmw.

nmw?

In any case, he would want to CC if he was Scum. I don't see any good reason for him not to as Scum.

[Quick]

WTF? No new posts? I slept for like 7 hours and I come back being the last person to post in the thread. Guys really, we need to keep playing the game, otherwise we may as well lynch.

[BananaCucho]

WTF? No new posts? I slept for like 7 hours and I come back being the last person to post in the thread. Guys really, we need to keep playing the game, otherwise we may as well lynch.

No, we needed to sleep. I'm not playing in my sleep.

[Unknown1234]

Sorry, when I wake up, I go to school.

[Gyrlander]

Okey, enough schooling.

[Firebringer]

I have returned!
~Tassadar (I think?)

[Firebringer]

I tried to help you. If you claim something, someone has to CC.

Not if he claims Tribesman.

[Firebringer]

why not get the vigi to shoot arrow and lynch someone else?

because theres a scum immune to night kills.

[Firebringer]

We are not doing Mass claim this early in the game. Possibly Tomorrow if VT is NK X2, but baring that I wouldn't want to mass claim.

This, I don't even know why a mass claim is even brought up.

[PowersThatBe]

Hi, still waking up. Where should I get food?

Also, yeah, I was giving him a chance to claim anything. He won't fight, makes me think he's scum who is playing too close to the vest to seem town.

[Firebringer]

Lynch Arrow today,
Vigi shoots Stereo, yzb25 or Gyrlander.

Go from there.
Nothing really left to discuss.

[PowersThatBe]

This, I don't even know why a mass claim is even brought up.

joke

it

was

a

joke

[Firebringer]

Hi, still waking up. Where should I get food?

Also, yeah, I was giving him a chance to claim anything. He won't fight, makes me think he's scum who is playing too close to the vest to seem town.

go to inn and out, if you have them where you live.
If not, I don't know how what you call living is living.

[PowersThatBe]

Lynch Arrow today,
Vigi shoots Stereo, yzb25 or Gyrlander.

Go from there.
Nothing really left to discuss.

Except banana and jack say you're 3rd scum.

[PowersThatBe]

go to inn and out, if you have them where you live.
If not, I don't know how what you call living is living.

I DONT HAVE INN AND OUT AND I DIDNT GO TO IT WHEN I WAS IN TEXAS. Chipotle?

[Firebringer]

Except banana and jack say you're 3rd scum.

So?

[Firebringer]

I DONT HAVE INN AND OUT AND I DIDNT GO TO IT WHEN I WAS IN TEXAS. Chipotle?

That is a good alternative.

[PowersThatBe]

idk, 3rd scum is toss up in my mind. It could be jack or banana given the way that they both pulled votes from arrow throughout the course of the game.

I don't think either has voted him either.

[Firebringer]

idk, 3rd scum is toss up in my mind. It could be jack or banana given the way that they both pulled votes from arrow throughout the course of the game.

I don't think either has voted him either.

I think its SuperJack.

[PowersThatBe]

I think its SuperJack.

I only question that slightly because then I would have gotten all 3 scums right day 1, and I don't want to tunnel that focus, because what if it's not him?

[Firebringer]

I only question that slightly because then I would have gotten all 3 scums right day 1, and I don't want to tunnel that focus, because what if it's not him?

if its not him then I am not sure, probably in lurker slots.

[PowersThatBe]

if its not him then I am not sure, probably in lurker slots.

Yzb is also an option given he quickly flipped arrow from red to green after very suspect info.

[Unknown1234]

Okay, I just found out I am very busy. Don't count on me a lot today.

[Mesk514]

Right now I'm at whole foods fueling the American economy.
Vegan turkey tastes just like real turkey.

PTB my darling, ping me boo!

[PowersThatBe]

@Mesk514 I am going to get some food. I shall ping you when interesting stuff happens!

[Mesk514]

@Mesk514 I am going to get some food. I shall ping you when interesting stuff happens!

If you come over to my place I'll make you the best food <3

[yzb25]

BTW, I only pulled a gambit.

And Arrow Pmuch just admitted to being scum, so there is that.

I thought it was weird you'd cc like that. Vigi shooting false CCs is like mafia 101.

The plays man, the plays.

[Gyrlander]

Okey, so my Lynch order right now would be Arrow>Stereo>Firebringer>Banana>Mesk> SuperJack/PTB

[yzb25]

If you do not even show that you are willing to lynch someone else.
You will not be able to pressure ANYONE, and thereby ending the days discussion.


Its the equivalent of being a Batman Villain. You are free to do the fuck you want, cause you know he wont kill you.

Digging myself deeper by saying this probably, but SJ is completely right. Even if vigi cannot kill Arrow, we can just lynch him tomorrow. Your instincts may tell you to grab this lynch and not let it go, but he's not going to go anywhere over this daycycle. The only difference is, in the event that he isn't godfather, we can squeeze pressuring out of an extra day cycle.

Besides, this is a wayyy more effective way to use our vigilante - rather than crossing our fingers and hoping, whoever they may be, that their reads are good lol.

In short, we should be trying to find a 2nd scum today to lynch instead.

[PowersThatBe]

Okey, so my Lynch order right now would be Arrow>Stereo>Firebringer>Banana>Mesk> SuperJack/PTB

Yay I'm at the bottom of the list!

[Gyrlander]

Yay I'm at the bottom of the list!

I'm still wary of you but I'm giving you extra points for overall contribution

[PowersThatBe]

Digging myself deeper by saying this probably, but SJ is completely right. Even if vigi cannot kill Arrow, we can just lynch him tomorrow. Your instincts may tell you to grab this lynch and not let it go, but he's not going to go anywhere over this daycycle. The only difference is, in the event that he isn't godfather, we can squeeze pressuring out of an extra day cycle.

Besides, this is a wayyy more effective way to use our vigilante - rather than crossing our fingers and hoping, whoever they may be, that their reads are good lol.

In short, we should be trying to find a 2nd scum today to lynch instead.

Strongly disagree. We should try to come to a consensus, and have the vigi shoot that person. We no longer have a mage. If we lynch and it's town and vigi can't kill arrow and then vigi is killed -- we lose in the long run.

I'd much rather a guaranteed lynch -- stereo is a good choice to be shot.

[PowersThatBe]

I'm still wary of you but I'm giving you extra points for overall contribution

What is there to wary of? I pointed to arrow all game and its arrow.

[PowersThatBe]

-vote arrow

Setting up the hammer, no one is scum hunting anymore.

[yzb25]

We could actually still lynch early and vig could shoot stereo and we would still be in good shape as Town even if stereo is Scum. The lynch pool will shrink until only the town block remains.

The difference is then we're depending on an anonymous player we do not know the identity of, and may choose to do whatever the fuck they want rather than what the town mandates. Personally, I'd shoot based off personal decision rather than who town has assigned to me if I was vig, if I felt the town was fucking nuts.

[yzb25]

Strongly disagree. We should try to come to a consensus, and have the vigi shoot that person. We no longer have a mage. If we lynch and it's town and vigi can't kill arrow and then vigi is killed -- we lose in the long run.

I'd much rather a guaranteed lynch -- stereo is a good choice to be shot.

At least let me ISO stereo before EOD, if it hasn't already been done.

[PowersThatBe]

The difference is then we're depending on an anonymous player we do not know the identity of, and may choose to do whatever the fuck they want rather than what the town mandates. Personally, I'd shoot based off personal decision rather than who town has assigned to me if I was vig, if I felt the town was fucking nuts.

Then you're a bigger idiot than I thought.

[PowersThatBe]

The town isn't nuts. I think I've at least proven at this point I should be heeded in my advice and counsel. Hopefully vigi would see my perspective. Even if they mishot, at least we def got a scum off the board and have a smaller pool to look at.

[yzb25]

OKAY. While you all were jacking off on the thread I finished my day 1 reread

-vote Firebringer

I am pretty certain this is scum for one main reason - fire was the main instigator of flipping the wagon from Arrow onto SJ. Fire was suspicious of Arrow day 1 but when Arrow was in trouble he would have rather given him time to improve. Fire was persuasive enough to get DW (confirmed town) and PTB to flip and then more votes followed.

The only other 2 people I suspect are yzb and stereo.

Yzb: my early analysis was that yzb called out Arrow when no one else did - once arrow responded though he reversed course when arrow was only L-5 (2 votes) and upgraded him to a null read. It kind of felt forced - like he was trying to encourage arrow and guide him into a better place. And Unknown noticed his sudden reversal.

Stereo: he threw the 4th vote down on SJ, making it a serious wagon as Arrows wagon lost steam (but still had a few votes) He then sheep hammered AR. He never however voted Arrow - just the two counter wagons.

I'd probably give the slight edge to stereo over yzb but not by much.

I voted him, then, while I was working over the day, I came to realize that what I had initially scumread him with was off-base, and I was just assuming he'd be a certain player because his name was red. Ik it looked like a few posts from your perspective, but from my perspective it was half a day.

Honestly, I still wouldn't have wanted to vote him today given what he had said so far. I wanted to get on and have a conversation with him, and see if I could draw some light out of him. I was gonna try and guilt-trip him (with appeals to honor and responsibility n shit) to do a partial ISO on Stereo/FB/unknown then talk to him about the ISO. At that point if I was still unable to get him to draw something out of him, I would have given up.

If we were scumbuddies, I'd have no reason to coach him in the daychat when I can just coach him at night. Furthermore, I'm capable of defending people in more nuanced ways if I wish to. You're underestimating me lol.

Surely this isn't so surprising, given you also seemed to get the same inexplicable "exploitable town" vibe from him too? Maybe we sympathize with the helpless LOL

[yzb25]

Then you're a bigger idiot than I thought.

You're gonna be around until EOD, right? Let me catchup, ISO stereo, and then let the day end. Even if you're gonna hammer him eventually, surely you can't argue with that?

[yzb25]

I just don't like that we could fuck up if we don't lynch him.

You're the one who seems to think the town is nuts tbh :P