S-FM 200: Mafia Wars II

[Rurouni Kenshin]

Sigh... Wow.

So far my catch-up is sort of mind-boggling.

I can only hope it get's better...

[SexyDucK]

This game is a complete mess. Both cult-immune confirmed TPRs outed...meaning that everyone else is exposed for the night kill/ conversions, Beguiler outed, a good half of the players being moronic...I really hope this is just a rehash of the last game and that we end up with some amazing turnaround.

Most captain obvious mafia post you could make

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

We have 2 hours left. You'd figure that the game wouldn't be this dead.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Duck, stop trying to make scum!BCD happen. It's literally never going to happen.

[Kovath]

So are Voss/ PTB your main scum-reads then? It would be good if you worked on those before EOD.

Speaking of reads, Kovath said that he was going to work on his before he "got lynched" but stopped doing that the moment people moved away from him.

I did a read on Voss and then realized everyone else to really look at were basically lurkers

[Sino]

-vote Shifty

I'm also willing to swap my vote to Unknown if necessary, but i'd rather see Shifty lynched between those two.

I'll try to check this game out from time to time.

[SexyDucK]

Duck, stop trying to make scum!BCD happen. It's literally never going to happen.

You aren't this bad/useless

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

You aren't this bad/useless

You suck at using meta and your play this game is utter shite.

I have no need to defend myself so stop wasting time.

[SexyDucK]

You suck at using meta and your play this game is utter shite.

I have no need to defend myself so stop wasting time.

Why do y0u say the word meta in every post. I just qu0ted a post where you make dumb obvious comments that add nothing. You do need to defend yourself. Town is just too dumb to even consider pressuring you for information


Also unknown should not be lynched over shifty

[SexyDucK]

You suck at using meta and your play this game is utter shite.

I have no need to defend myself so stop wasting time.

Still waiting on what role you thought I was when you said I was not beguiler

What your grand post on their connection was between the two

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Why do y0u say the word meta in every post. I just qu0ted a post where you make dumb obvious comments that add nothing. You do need to defend yourself. Town is just too dumb to even consider pressuring you for information


Also unknown should not be lynched over shifty

Both of us have made "dumb obvious comments that add nothing"

It has no bearing on alignment because of how spammy EVERYONE has been this game.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Still waiting on what role you thought I was when you said I was not beguiler

What your grand post on their connection was between the two

Why would I bother with that now when my theories are most likely wrong?

I will see what happens today and re-evaluate tonight for the LW.

I would be good with Unknown dying today as well.

[SexyDucK]

Unknown is being way too tetchy and keeps dismissing everyone's scum-reads on him as having no weight whatsoever so I'm not too sure here.

You had thee scum reads and were so against players like voss being pressured. Why are you doing this wish washy flippy setting up ready to flip your vote to hammer and be like oops I wasn't sure shit?

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

You had thee scum reads and were so against players like voss being pressured. Why are you doing this wish washy flippy setting up ready to flip your vote to hammer and be like oops I wasn't sure shit?

I did, until the entire fiasco with Kenshin/ you happened. Seeing as Kenshin is more likely to be town, that means I have to do this thing called "re-evaluate"

Not a difficult concept, but I wouldn't expect you to understand.

[Kovath]

Drug Dealer claim? Wanting to give a no feedback message, which would bone a potential investigative?

Lol.

I'm willing to vote Unknown.

[SexyDucK]

Both of us have made "dumb obvious comments that add nothing"

It has no bearing on alignment because of how spammy EVERYONE has been this game.

you don't justify bad play on other people's bad play, sorry that is not how it works. You of all people are against captain obvious statements, there is no reason for you as town to do that at end of day when a lynch is needed.

[Unknown1234]

Sorry if I have suddenly gone "scummy" towards the end of lynching day. I'm not very good at this, just look at QT and World Of Music for example

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Sorry if I have suddenly gone "scummy" towards the end of lynching day. I'm not very good at this, just look at QT and World Of Music for example

Why are you pulling the "I'm a bad player" card now?

[Unknown1234]

Drug Dealer claim? Wanting to give a no feedback message, which would bone a potential investigative?

Lol.

I'm willing to vote Unknown.

You know, Drug Dealer giving no feedback means they can't become a mole buddy.

[SexyDucK]

I did, until the entire fiasco with Kenshin/ you happened. Seeing as Kenshin is more likely to be town, that means I have to do this thing called "re-evaluate"

Not a difficult concept, but I wouldn't expect you to understand.

You are a stubborn player and you do not reevaluate.

Kenshin is almost confirmed town. About to die and counterclaims the only role outted means he either had a good read I was faking only as town and not another evil or he was suiciding.

[Unknown1234]

Why are you pulling the "I'm a bad player" card now?

Did I ever say I was good?

I'm literally not good at EOD's

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Did I ever say I was good?

I'm literally not good at EOD's

No, that wasn't what I was saying.

Your post was "well I'm sorry I'm terrible at the game", implying THAT is the reason people are voting for you.

[Unknown1234]

No, that wasn't what I was saying.

Your post was "well I'm sorry I'm terrible at the game", implying THAT is the reason people are voting for you.

If that's how your going to take it, I'm not implying that.

[G4slight]

Drug Dealer claim? Wanting to give a no feedback message, which would bone a potential investigative?

Lol.

I'm willing to vote Unknown.

Unknown has had some pretty scummy play IMO with the whole defending Shifty stuff earlier on, also calling out people for answering for others (can't remember the players but I think one of them was you) also Shifty had some pretty shady play early on then disappeared and then the whole duck fiasco took the spotlight.

Should I put either at L-1 since I won't be able to check back until 5pm est

[SexyDucK]

Unknown has had some pretty scummy play IMO with the whole defending Shifty stuff earlier on, also calling out people for answering for others (can't remember the players but I think one of them was you) also Shifty had some pretty shady play early on then disappeared and then the whole duck fiasco took the spotlight.

Should I put either at L-1 since I won't be able to check back until 5pm est

Vote which one you believe is mafia

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

You are a stubborn player and you do not reevaluate.

What is with this game and everyone failing so hard at meta-reading me?

First, Kenshin starts acting like I'm totally powerful and shit because I'm a Keeper, then the usual "Calix is scummy for lurking" nonsense despite that not even being in my scum meta, now this.

Actually read my scum games sometimes before you start reeling off ignorant statements.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Unknown has had some pretty scummy play IMO with the whole defending Shifty stuff earlier on, also calling out people for answering for others (can't remember the players but I think one of them was you) also Shifty had some pretty shady play early on then disappeared and then the whole duck fiasco took the spotlight.

Should I put either at L-1 since I won't be able to check back until 5pm est

I would do it with Unknown

[G4slight]

-vote Unknown

[G4slight]

I would do it with Unknown

Like sexually?

Anyways bbl all

[SexyDucK]

Lol

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Like sexually?

Anyways bbl all

You formatted your vote wrong.

If it gets corrected, Unknown1234 would be at L-1.

[SexyDucK]

You formatted your vote wrong.

If it gets corrected, Unknown1234 would be at L-1.

Do you want me to put him at l1 for you to hammer?

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Do you want me to put him at l1 for you to hammer?

I will hammer if you do that, yes.

I'll give him time to post reads if he wishes to.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Not sure if Gaslight has legitimately disappeared yet so give it a few.

[SexyDucK]

I will hammer if you do that, yes.

I'll give him time to post reads if he wishes to.

Can you state if you haven't why unknown is a better lynch than shifty?

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Can you state if you haven't why unknown is a better lynch than shifty?

I am basing this off EV/ information/ associations as well as reads. I think Unknown will be more useful in terms of what he flips.

(being vague here on purpose)

[SexyDucK]

Shifty has the scummy first post, goes ask, ignores the pressure when he returns and then gives a read list with th4 consig and godfather as his only scum. What has he done since then?

[Sino]

I am basing this off EV/ information/ associations as well as reads. I think Unknown will be more useful in terms of what he flips.

(being vague here on purpose)

I missed his drug dealer claim, could you link it or tell what # it was ?

[SexyDucK]

I am basing this off EV/ information/ associations as well as reads. I think Unknown will be more useful in terms of what he flips.

(being vague here on purpose)

I'm fairly sure unknown is town

[SexyDucK]

SEXY ISABELLA COMMANDS EVERYONE TO VOTE AND HAMMER SHIFTY

[God Emperor Trudeau]

Mesk might disagree with me here but ai won't have a chance to change my vote except for now. Atleast unknown is present at the moment amd he was never really my priority lynch to begin with. I am willing to see him live until the next day hopefully im not making a mistake. with rhat being said

-vote shifty

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Shifty has the scummy first post, goes ask, ignores the pressure when he returns and then gives a read list with th4 consig and godfather as his only scum. What has he done since then?

Here's the thing though.

Earlier Unknown was defending Shifty - the ONLY player to defend him, saying his posts weren't slips, that scum wouldn't be that obvious, etc.

Now Unknown doesn't seem to care at all.

The same doesn't apply for Shifty because he hasn't interacted with people at ALL.

A part of me suspects this might be W/W but I doubt that would actually happen on D1 in a 13-player game. That's why I think Unknown > Shifty.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

-vote unvote

[Sino]

Did GET reveal as gf ?

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Did GET reveal as gf ?

He hasn't officially revealed but he's confirmed himself and Duck as the Super TPRs.

I do not recommend him revealing tonight given that it means he will not be able to be healed at all.

[SexyDucK]

-vote unvote

So why does scum unknown start a vote on 0 vote voss instead of push a train of 3 on shifty myself or rk.

When my partner did his claim unknown was the only one against the vote train.

You can say he defends people but he has not tried to push a mislynch on anyone

[Sino]

He hasn't officially revealed but he's confirmed himself and Duck as the Super TPRs.

I do not recommend him revealing tonight given that it means he will not be able to be healed at all.

Ok, thanks

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

So why does scum unknown start a vote on 0 vote voss instead of push a train of 3 on shifty myself or rk.

When my partner did his claim unknown was the only one against the vote train.

You can say he defends people but he has not tried to push a mislynch on anyone

Context? Like I said, he was defending Shifty so he wouldn't have voted for him. Had you or RK revealed at the point you're talking about?

I recall him focusing on Voss and Kovath, so not so sure there.

[God Emperor Trudeau]

Well im going to sleep I dont feel like changing my vote again... if anything we can just lynch unknown the next day. I think we should hammer shifty. Also I dont find unknowns role claim to be impossible. No one has disputed it so far as far as I know and yes maybe no one in this game is really a.drug.dealer and thats why but im willing to trust him for now.
Eggy out

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Well im going to sleep I dont feel like changing my vote again... if anything we can just lynch unknown the next day. I think we should hammer shifty. Also I dont find unknowns role claim to be impossible. No one has disputed it so far as far as I know and yes maybe no one in this game is really a.drug.dealer and thats why but im willing to trust him for now.
Eggy out

Given Unknown's role claim, he can ONLY be a Luciano if he's scum given how easily Drug Dealer can confirm themselves. (by giving people obviously bullshitted feedback)