Day 3

[FM Earle]

Think of vote count, think of Earl.

FM Galletta (1 [L-16]):
FM Parker

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FM Black (1 [L-16]):
FM Hopgood

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FM Cohen (4 [L-13]):
FM Cafarelli, FM Green, FM Leary, FM Lichtmann

[FM Ballard]

anyway, the fact that i'm still alive cleans me from being cult anyway. parker i really dont understand why you are so stupid, illogical and narrowminded (sry) and still think i could be maf or something when i try to get a mafia member lynched

I don't see how it clears you from that? Looking at the graveyard...all of the Cult is still alive. Your second point is valid, but I don't see how your first point is. That being said, I believe you are Town.

choo choo!

-vote FM Cohen

[FM Phelps]

Nothing happened to me last night. I am not so sure what i should think about FM Cafarelli's information. He doesn't really hit me as Drug Dealer or Kidnapper. He was drawing way too much attention on himself. Why would a mafia fake claim poisoned day 1? It's more likely that he was drugged.

Arsonists leave feedback in this setup and no one ever claimed to have been doused.

Blacksmith / Bus Driver / Vigilante are more likely. Especially with his activity so far.

I still think you are executioner FM Cafarelli sorry. I won't join that train.

[FM Colmyer]

here we go, with further evidence against cohen.
he is a Drug Dealer / Kidnapper / Blacksmith / Bus Driver / Vigilante / Veteran / Arsonist / Student
i checked him tonight (thanks noobs, for making me waste a night action on confirmed scum)

drug dealer is the most likely. because he drug dealed me n1, thinks i wouldnt know it and then claims drug dealed self. drug dealer claiming drug dealed, to clear himself from all accusations
kidnapper is possible too. i'm sure he's scum

blacksmith, i dont think we have one. nor vigi or vet. we would know by now i think.

arsonist is possible, any random might be a neutral killing.
witch is the second likely, possibly he tried to tell scum that he's witch by his lie


anyway, the fact that i'm still alive cleans me from being cult anyway. parker i really dont understand why you are so stupid, illogical and narrowminded (sry) and still think i could be maf or something when i try to get a mafia member lynched

colmyer i also dont really understand you, you acted like a dumbass last day tbh
1) the mafia would NEVER kill you when you still had to complete your task. that would be a TOTAL waste of a night kill. i dont get why you didnt see that bluff
2) what makes you think you're more important than any other guy
3) additionally you just gived them 2 more blackmails (with dd)
i hope today's blackmailed guy is not so dumb

-vote FM Cohen

btw have you noticed his avatar tries to suggest he's as innocent as sheeps? lol, scum much
recommendation: vote at L-1 ASAP and lynch before day ends

See, before calling me a dumbass, Cafarelli, you should probably read this.
I made a mistake. I misunderstood the Blackmailer's role card, and I didn't realize that I couldn't claim I was previously blackmailed if I am currently blackmailed. This means that chances are I will suicide tonight.

Yes, I am currently blackmailed again. But this blackmail wasn't aimed at me.
Our Bus Driver played his cards right and it paid off. Even if this ends up with my suicide, he completely foiled the mafia's plan.

You have been blackmailed. Here is a note listing the blackmailer's demands:

In at least every other post, you must attempt to derail or halt any lynch vote on FM Colmyer without revealing your role, investigations, feedbacks, trolling or jokes. If there is no posts fosing or lynchvoting FM Colmyer, post analysis on why you think FM Colmyer is town. If you do not complete this during the first day, we will kill you at night.

(This is irrefutable proof that the Mafia wasn't going to hit me, doh.)

-vote FM Cohen

I was with you on Day 2. It really is a shame I couldn't say anything about it.

I also have some more information about something else that happened to me. It will not be revealed unless necessary.

[FM Cafarelli]

I don't see how it clears you from that? Looking at the graveyard...all of the Cult is still alive. Your second point is valid, but I don't see how your first point is. That being said, I believe you are Town.

choo choo!

-vote FM Cohen

because the masons probably visited me

Nothing happened to me last night. I am not so sure what i should think about FM Cafarelli's information. He doesn't really hit me as Drug Dealer or Kidnapper. He was drawing way too much attention on himself. Why would a mafia fake claim poisoned day 1? It's more likely that he was drugged.

Arsonists leave feedback in this setup and no one ever claimed to have been doused.

Blacksmith / Bus Driver / Vigilante are more likely. Especially with his activity so far.

I still think you are executioner FM Cafarelli sorry. I won't join that train.

a blacksmith/bus driver/vigi drawing so much attention, really?
ok you're right about the arso, there would have been doused claims by now. so is there even a neutral killer now?
why did he do this? to look like a townie. it's not possible that he was drugged because there are no 2 dds

if i was executioner, how would i know that i was drugged n1 and how would i know what rose is?

btw i fucked up in my last post witch is not in the list, it's ghost lol. i can exclude ghost anyway, because he really tries hard to get not lynched

[FM Colmyer]

The Mafia wanted to make me their pawn.

I hate you guys.

Also, my guess as to why they killed Becket? Probably was investigated by a Consigliere.
Disguiser / Poisoner / Detective (Savage) / Journalist (Savage) / Lookout (Savage) / Corrupt Journalist

[FM Earle]

-vote FM Cafarelli

Sorry but Cohen is more trustworthy.

1. Why would Drug Dealer claim drugged?
2. Why would Drug Dealer use no feedback drug?
3. Why would Cohen draw attention to himself when he is not immune to detection?
4. Why can't Cohen be framed?
5. Rose may claim Delta but are you even an Investigator?
6. Cafarelli might be Executioner.
7. Cafarelli is trying to avoid attention during Day 1.
8. Why are you still alive?
9. Suggestion of Arsonist is stupid.
10. Why can't you be cult?
11. Why can't you be Drug Dealer who got investigation results of Rose from Consigliere?
12. Why is your avatar a Vigilante?
13. We can still have Blacksmith.
14. Why do you want blackmailed to die because of blackmail?
15. How can you be sure Cohen is scum when you are not Sheriff?
16. Why do you call Parker dumb?
17. Why are you tunneling on Cohen?
18. Why L-1 ASAP?
19. Why can't Cohen be Student?
20. Why should I even be trusting you?

[FM Kelso]

Hey, I was roleblocked last night.

I feel like Cafarelli could be an executioner too...
But Cohen is a legit target right now until he defend himself.

-vote FM Cohen

[FM Colmyer]

-vote FM Cafarelli

Sorry but Cohen is more trustworthy.

1. Why would Drug Dealer claim drugged?
2. Why would Drug Dealer use no feedback drug?
3. Why would Cohen draw attention to himself when he is not immune to detection?
4. Why can't Cohen be framed?
5. Rose may claim Delta but are you even an Investigator?
6. Cafarelli might be Executioner.
7. Cafarelli is trying to avoid attention during Day 1.
8. Why are you still alive?
9. Suggestion of Arsonist is stupid.
10. Why can't you be cult?
11. Why can't you be Drug Dealer who got investigation results of Rose from Consigliere?
12. Why is your avatar a Vigilante?
13. We can still have Blacksmith.
14. Why do you want blackmailed to die because of blackmail?
15. How can you be sure Cohen is scum when you are not Sheriff?
16. Why do you call Parker dumb?
17. Why are you tunneling on Cohen?
18. Why L-1 ASAP?
19. Why can't Cohen be Student?
20. Why should I even be trusting you?

Hello, scum.

[FM Earle]

The Mafia wanted to make me their pawn.

I hate you guys.

Also, my guess as to why they killed Becket? Probably was investigated by a Consigliere.
Disguiser / Poisoner / Detective (Savage) / Journalist (Savage) / Lookout (Savage) / Corrupt Journalist

1. Why would Mafia even bother investigating inactive Becket?
2. Why are you posting so much unlike Morgan on Day2?
3. Why are you breaking blackmail rules?
4. Are you a useful pawn?
5. Why are you still alive?

[FM Phelps]

because the masons probably visited me



a blacksmith/bus driver/vigi drawing so much attention, really?
ok you're right about the arso, there would have been doused claims by now. so is there even a neutral killer now?
why did he do this? to look like a townie. it's not possible that he was drugged because there are no 2 dds

if i was executioner, how would i know that i was drugged n1 and how would i know what rose is?

btw i fucked up in my last post witch is not in the list, it's ghost lol. i can exclude ghost anyway, because he really tries hard to get not lynched

Your feedback claim could be a lie. But you don't hit me as someone who does gambits. You are more the kind of girl who plays out of the belly it seems. I am not sure though. Ghost makes the most sense out of all the roles with his behaviour.

[FM Hogeboom]

See, before calling me a dumbass, Cafarelli, you should probably read this.
I made a mistake. I misunderstood the Blackmailer's role card, and I didn't realize that I couldn't claim I was previously blackmailed if I am currently blackmailed. This means that chances are I will suicide tonight.

Well, looking at the rolecard, you will only suicide if you do not complete the task and since you revealed to be blackmailed you will only die if you are a Savage or Delta so.. guess we will know tomorrow?

[FM Phelps]

Maybe he is lucky and it was drugged.

[FM Earle]

Hey, I was roleblocked last night.

I feel like Cafarelli could be an executioner too...
But Cohen is a legit target right now until he defend himself.

-vote FM Cohen

1. Are you the Arsonist?
2. Or are you Epsilon?
3. Why are you voting Cohen?
4. Do you think you are being roleblocked by Escort or Consort?
5. What if Cohen is a Student?

[FM Hogeboom]

The Mafia wanted to make me their pawn.

I hate you guys.

Also, my guess as to why they killed Becket? Probably was investigated by a Consigliere.
Disguiser / Poisoner / Detective (Savage) / Journalist (Savage) / Lookout (Savage) / Corrupt Journalist

Is this feedback you received from the Bus Driving?

[FM Colmyer]

1. Why would Mafia even bother investigating inactive Becket?
2. Why are you posting so much unlike Morgan on Day2?
3. Why are you breaking blackmail rules?
4. Are you a useful pawn?
5. Why are you still alive?

1. We had a Night 1. People were investigated/blocked/whatever with the only indication of who they were being their names.
2. How does this have anything to do with Morgan?
3. I misread the rolecard and I didn't know I couldn't claim previous blackmails. It's a 50/50 gamble at this point.
4. No, and I don't want to be. Bus Driver saved me from that.
5. Because the mafia wanted to make me their pawn.

[FM Colmyer]

Is this feedback you received from the Bus Driving?

I will not give any information about it for now. I have no reason to.

[FM Colmyer]

Well, looking at the rolecard, you will only suicide if you do not complete the task and since you revealed to be blackmailed you will only die if you are a Savage or Delta so.. guess we will know tomorrow?

I am a Delta.

[FM Phelps]

Nope that's the investigative pairing of the Corrupt Journalist who died last night.

Well at least the Coroner has a good target for tonight. I am really curious who that guy interviewed. If he was the one who interviewed the second guy from yesterday. we might find the consigliere.

[FM Parker]

Regarding Cohen - It actually would not surprise me if Cohen is a student. Maybe my reasoning is egocentric but Cohen's behavior yesterday was off. The first day, he acts like a pretty normal townie. That makes sense for a student. If you pick your mentor, you are most likely to pick the town. Then on day 2, his attitude totally changes. The problem is, I'm concerned he picked Jester.

That being said, Phelps is right. Carafelli could be exe/consig as well. Savage is less likely if the masons did their job.

@Colmyer, this should have been handled with PMs to the host. It makes sense that you would have been able to reveal a previous blackmail if the mafia kept blackmailing you.

That being said, the mafia is completely willing to play with the lynch trains.

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Earle, any player can post the vote count. We don't need it posted because we can see it.

Buckwalter, please post any thoughts and questions you may have. I am beginning to see you as a semi-active lurker. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Cohen, PLEASE reveal all that has happened to you. Please.

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So we have an Englishman who is willing to manipulate lynches. This is interesting. I'm beginning to think the mafia were behind the lynch on Monroe but couldn't pull it off. Blackmail Monroe to claim Mayor (or maybe they just got lucky here) and try to mislynch him due to the previous mislynch on McKelty.

[FM Parker]

Err Colmyer, you should reveal all that happened to you too. The above post was a mistake referring to Colmyer withholding.

[FM Phelps]

I am a Delta.

Then i really hope it was a drug. You are one of the more valuable town players in this game and it really would make me sad to lose you. =(

[FM Parker]

I will not give any information about it for now. I have no reason to.

If not now, then when? The mods could kill you at any time.

[FM Hogeboom]

I wonder what Colmyer is trying to accomplish, I mean he went against the rules of the Blackmail already, why not just go the full 100% then? Do you expect mercy from the host or something?

[FM Earle]

Earle, any player can post the vote count. We don't need it posted because we can see it.

FM Galletta (1 [L-16]):
FM Parker

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FM Black (1 [L-16]):
FM Hopgood

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FM Cohen (7 [L-10]):
FM Cafarelli, FM Green, FM Leary, FM Lichtmann, FM Ballard, FM Colmyer, FM Kelso

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FM Cafarelli (1 [L-16]):
FM Earle

[FM Buchwalter]

Buckwalter, please post any thoughts and questions you may have. I am beginning to see you as a semi-active lurker. Please correct me if I am wrong.

A little busy at the moment. I will be more active later.

@Colmyer:
I'm pretty sure we asked the host that question on day 2. And as far as I remember, you were allowed to claim that you had been blackmailed the day before, as long as you did not reveal the new blackmail.

Just to be sure:
Are you allowed to claim previously blackmailed if currently under a new blackmailed? As I understand it you just are not allowed to reveal your current blackmail.

[FM Parker]

@Buchwalter, This response by players in the game had not typically resulted in an increase in activity.

Let's see something. I like vote count.

@Colmyer/Earle, Cafarelli is not completely cleared. That being said, Carafelli has uses. If you do think he's town, a small amount of FoS would contribute to keeping him alive as scum would think they'd have an alternative suspect. He may be scum, but the minute he gives us a bad lead... we know we can lynch him. So we use him for now.

[FM Colmyer]

''The blackmailed target is not allowed to claim blackmailed, hint at it themselves, or hint that a player asking if they are blackmailed is on the right track''

Nowhere does it say that you CAN claim your previous blackmails if you currently are.
I already discussed with the host about it.

And said information will be kept. It's not something that you guys can use right now anyway.

[FM Colmyer]

If not now, then when? The mods could kill you at any time.

Player suicide is at the end of the OoO.
I should die during the night.

[FM Black]

I've been against Cohen the whole time. And hey why not, seems people are now suspicious of me.

-vote FM Cohen

[FM Parker]

Colmyer, I cannot see a scenario where you're withholding information helps us unless you intend to post it right at the end of the day (when no one can use it). You won't be alive tomorrow and there's no certainty of a coroner in the game. Please help me out here.

[FM Earle]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...563#post320563

Yes, the target of blackmail can reveal that he was blackmailed after being released from blackmail without receiving a penalty. They are not notified if the status is lifted.

-vote FM Colmyer

His blackmail note is fake. Mafia would have demanded Colmyer and Morgan to be the highest poster.

[FM Buchwalter]

Let me start out with this I guess.

Cafarelli has still done nothing to be confirmed as Town Investigator.
Everything he has given or told us is so far:

1. Claims to have been feedback prevented night 1.
2. Claims to have checked Rose night 2, Rose appear as "Mafia Godfather / Savage Godfather / Mayor / Delta / Jester / Survivor".
3. Claims to have chacked Cohen night 3, Cohan appear as "Drug Dealer / Kidnapper / Blacksmith / Bus Driver / Vigilante / Veteran / Arsonist / Student".

Anyone else see a theme here? We still only have Cafarelli's word.
I may have missed it on day 2, but I never saw Rose confirm that the investigative pairing was correct.
A lot of you guys also think that it is unlikely that a Drug Dealer would use feedback prevention on a random target.

Cohen on the other hand:

1. Claims poisoned day 1.
2. Was very active during day 1.
3. Does not know why he did not die from poison.
4. Has not claimed anything other then poisoned day 1.
5. Has still not role claimed.

So far I can not believe Cafarelli blindly, I at least want to hear what Cohen has to say before i decide on anything.

[FM Colmyer]

I wasn't notified of my Blackmail being lifted yet I received a new Blackmail note.

We're not talking about the same situation, Earle. This situation doesn't take into account that the target was blackmailed again.

[FM Phelps]

I wasn't notified of my Blackmail being lifted yet I received a new Blackmail note.

We're not talking about the same situation, Earle. This situation doesn't take into account that the target was blackmailed again.

I checked the feedback messages. There is no feedback message for a fullfilled or not fullfilled blackmail.

[FM Carruthers]

Greetings, I've come to the early start of a day so that's fortunate.

If you've received a new blackmail note, isn't it a contradictory to reveal if you're a Delta? It's going to make you commit suicide.

[FM Phelps]

Greetings, I've come to the early start of a day so that's fortunate.

If you've received a new blackmail note, isn't it a contradictory to reveal if you're a Delta? It's going to make you commit suicide.

Hi Mr. Filler!

[FM Colmyer]

Greetings, I've come to the early start of a day so that's fortunate.

If you've received a new blackmail note, isn't it a contradictory to reveal if you're a Delta? It's going to make you commit suicide.

Take the time to read the 85 posts before posting next time, thanks.

[FM Colmyer]

I wasn't notified of my Blackmail being lifted yet I received a new Blackmail note.

We're not talking about the same situation, Earle. This situation doesn't take into account that the target was blackmailed again.

Misread his sentence. Point #2 is still valid. And he knows it.

[FM Monroe]

And can you feel the love tonight
It is where we are
It's enough for this wide-eyed wanderer
That we got this far
[/quote]he/a/ds[quote]

[FM Black]

I'm curious why conger is reveal his blackmail, thus letting himself suicide. Why is this benifital for town?

As for Earle's sudden fear if mafia killing inactive players as an excuse to become active seems quite funny.

[FM Monroe]

Cafarelli makes a strong case now. All aboard the train!

Let's hear what he claims. I'm sure it'll give us hours of entertainment.

-vote FM Cohen

[FM Black]

And can you feel the love tonight
It is where we are
It's enough for this wide-eyed wanderer
That we got this far

he/a/dsBlackmail claim?

[FM Colmyer]

I'm curious why conger is reveal his blackmail, thus letting himself suicide. Why is this benifital for town?

As for Earle's sudden fear if mafia killing inactive players as an excuse to become active seems quite funny.

I made a mistake. Being currently blackmailed, I wasn't supposed to reveal my past blackmail, apparently.
All we can is hope this blackmail is a drug, and that the person who got bussed with me has the real blackmail.

Wish I knew what they tried to make me say though.

[FM Earle]

he/a/ds

Blackmail claim?

Devoured claim.

[FM Monroe]

he/a/ds

Blackmail claim?

No comment!

You owe me 50 bucks, beautiful.

[FM Buchwalter]

I made a mistake. Being currently blackmailed, I wasn't supposed to reveal my past blackmail, apparently.
All we can is hope this blackmail is a drug, and that the person who got bussed with me has the real blackmail.

Wish I knew what they tried to make me say though.

So because you maybe broke an egg, you decided to just toss all the eggs on the floor?

[FM Monroe]

Devoured claim.

You were devoured?

[FM Buchwalter]

I made a mistake. Being currently blackmailed, I wasn't supposed to reveal my past blackmail, apparently.
All we can is hope this blackmail is a drug, and that the person who got bussed with me has the real blackmail.

Wish I knew what they tried to make me say though.

So because you maybe broke an egg, you decided to just toss all the eggs on the floor?

I mean before you checked if the first egg was even broken or not.

[FM Monroe]

Can Blackmailer make someone claim Blackmailed?