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I will totally hammer this guy when the time comes!
Caribou was going to make this list for himself; but why not just post it for everyone to see.
This is the votes that happened after Boa Hancock's initial vote on Franky.
Also;
Spot on, miss Hancock. Now for the list:Originally Posted by FM Boa Hancock
Boa Hancock
Urouge
Wet Haired Caribou
Big Mom
Soul King Brook
Don Krieg
Straw Hat Luffy
Buggy the Clown
Tony Tony Chopper
Fire Fist Ace
Jewelry Bonney
Capone Bege
Ok, I found the placeholder post from yesterday now that you pointed it out, but I don't understand what it has to do with the code. Why would you use anything above highschool level math in a game where the majority of people is supposed to understand how you came to your solution anyway? Seems really illogical to me if the goal is trustworthiness and a bunch of people have to rely on others to verify it for them.
Posting a lot isn't necessarily a shield against disguisers and ventriloquists. Especially when most of your posts are one-liners.
I would just like to remind people of the possibility that a ventriloquist and a drug dealer could have caused the double electromaniac charging feedback we've seen today.
That said, Big Mom's writing style does match that of yesterday so far. That I can verify, even if it's not entirely fool proof.
Boa Hancock's gut feeling 1, pirates 0.
Nothing happened to me last night, at least nothing which would give me a feedback msg. I will be back shortly after i cought up. Stay tuned.
He has not been standing out in terms of actions so i do not recall him from my memory, have to read up on his posts. My first impression of not having anything to recall about a person makes them suspicious in itself. Given, that there is somebody who finds said person memorable for some reason, this should have some merit to it. Rereading about him now.
I'm lurking too much. I want to post something helpful, but someone already brought it up.
i wonder why trafalgar is absent now, with 10 votes on him.
so it seems like we actually have arso AND EM. i have no good feeling about this
also, since one claimed bd, it is high likely that the friendly fire was caused by bd. he probably had a feeling that cyborg was scum. and i dont think bded was made by dd. possibly the rb was made by dd
finally
-vote FM Trafalgar Law
So my reads on Geck Moria:
Most of his posts are atrocious one-liners.
Posts a lot of needless spam imo.
Is a sheep.
Possible roles/factions: Citizen / Busdriver / Rebels / Neutral
The specific busdriver callout is hinted at by 2 posts:
"I have not yet claimed my role"
"...badass busdriver..."
Sorry but i'm too lazy to quote the exact posts of his, but these give me the feeling that he's that. Now that i'm reading this, he might be a Witch trying to push the focus away from the CP9.
claims:
FM Don Krieg roleblocked. #3
FM Eustass Kidd claims doused. #7
FM Wet Haired Caribou claims to have been charged #11
FM Big Mom claims to have been charged #19
FM Dracule Mihawk claims driven #83
thoughts so far:
I hope the last guy realised that i am not pirates aligned. =p
The interviewed guy really looks suspicious to me. He had 48 hours time to write something and he does that in the last minutes before the dead line? Why? Why even mention this? Maybe his team wasn't cabable to capitalize on the journalist article. So he waited for the last chance to write some gibberish neutral article which does jackshit. Not even a hint at his role. Why not?
Sounds to me like that guy has something to hide.
I wonder if this will be the first FM which runs 2 drugdealers on the same team. This is actually a pretty strong setup in a game with that many factions.
At the other hand 2 neutral killers? Seems too boring to me. I believe in one neutral killer though.
I wouldn't be surprised if FM Trafalgar Law is the other neutral who needs to get lynched to win the game.
The charges are interesting to be honest. I have similar pro town reads from FM Big Mom and FM Caribou. I am not sure what i should think about this right now.
Question time:
Why do you think its more beneficial to lynch a possible neutral today over a cp9 or another pirate candidate?
Because of two reasons.
One: Right now we don't have any other clues to go for, do we? The most of us agreed on Trafalgar being scummy, and like that we can go forward instead of turning in circles IMO.
Two: The neutral(s) can side with anyone. He won't end up in a conflict between factions, he will just try to stay away from trouble like that and win with the faction who comes out on top after some days. Until that time, he will disturb the town most likely. The neutral is the only role who can just watch most of the time and give vague answers (of course he will try to be more useful to town to not seem suspicious) and stay under the radar like that. Atleast that's what I think. Getting rid of the neutral(s) will help because there is a "faction" we do not have to focus on anymore.
He could also be a killing neutral, and it'll be much easier to vote them out now that the town is still strong. I agree he may be trying to get lynched, but he may also be trying to look like he wants to get lynched. We can't rely on other factions to use their night kill to remove a neutral killer suspect because they can all win with him.
His behavior definitely doesn't look like town, marine or rebel in any case. They have no reason to try to look like a jester. If we can find evidence to really suspect someone of being CP9 or Pirate, then I would support pressuring and possibly lynching them. But for now, Trafalgar has my vote for being very likely non-town.
Truth be told some COM ids are just obvious to me, without even trying to COM hunt. :P
Can't you post anything useful?
What are your reads on:
FM Gecko Moria
FM Eustass Kidd
FM Big Mom
FM Wet Haired Caribou
The Jester WIFOM is strong in Trafalgar Law
What do you think of my theory that he could be the CP9 infiltrator?
there can't be jester if there is arso + em. 2 drug dealers? i dont think so actually
probably trafalgar IS the arso. that's why he was so sure about this
-vote FM Trafalgar Law
He's been acting weird all game so I'd like to hear a role claim from him. He's at L-5 now.
I'd also like Foxy to respond to the post I made about him as he didn't yesterday.
Originally Posted by FM Tony Tony Chopper
You then came back much later and try to dissuade people from voting the pirate, Franky, by suggesting scum are voting for him. You didn't bother to defend yourself from a vote made against you, maybe because you didn't feel threatened by that one vote made a long time ago. imo most town would at least comment if voted.I'm back again briefly. Lets have a look at the scum power behind 10 votes for someone with 1 post...
~Ever cynical Foxy:P
A page later and after Franky has started posting you change your mind, giving detailed reasons why you were previously against it. As you didn't defend yourself from my vote, it's a bit weird that you felt the need to defend yourself so strongly from this. This could be the moment you decided to bus your team mate, maybe because after his posts you thought he wouldn't be lynched so an extra vote wouldn't matter and you could distance yourself from him if either of you are revealed to be mafia later. You may also have thought his defence was so bad that you had to comment on it and start bussing in case he was lynched today or tomorrow.Okay guys. Earlier, I was against the Franky waggon for multiple reasons...
A) If you preasure a lurker, there is no sort of guarantee that they will respond. If the lurker in question does not respond, then you pretty much have to lynch them
B) Regular lurking tends to be a null tell. Lurkers can flip scum, but they are every bit as likely to flip town
C) Little can be learned from a lurker lynch
It could be the reason you are thinking about this is because you are trying not to do it yourself. This could explain why you didn't comment on my vote and why it took you so long to return as you believed it would make you look scummy to immediately start defending yourself after you've been pressured. It would give away that you've been active lurking which is what I believe you have been doing. You posted 5 times yesterday, which is definitely lurking, but you never apologised or gave an excuse for this. You have also made 2 big analytic posts which don't fall into the pure lurker category as it shows you have an interest in the game and are paying attention.However, Franky's posts in the past hour intrigue me very much so. Firstly, he comes on to see he's preasured, and proceeds to immediately snap out of his slumber and make 9 posts in under 2 hours. This seems suspicious to me, since it imply's that he wasn't lurking due to limited time or lack of interest. Now look at his opening statement...
Read the underlining of this post. Franky is pretty much confirming that he hasn't been lurking due to time issues, but because he's having too hard of a time reading this setup. Pure lurking = Null. Active lurking = Realy scummy.
I didn't think the waggon had much going for it earlier, and thought it was largely scum powered. I'm now reassessing my opinion after Franky's recent post.
-vote FM Cyborg Franky
Interestingly, Cyborg Franky himself replies to you straight after. It is very common when someone busses a team mate for that team mate to bus him right back and fake annoyance with him. You however don't reply to Franky's post, maybe because you can't think of a way to convincingly argue of him.Originally Posted by FM Cyborg Franky
Instead your next post you attack one of Franky's voters as if you are annoyed that your team mate is being voted for such stupid reasons. You then go back to lurking, seemingly content with barely having made an impact with your few posts.Originally Posted by Foxy the Silver Fox
While this analysis is very one-sided, I have done this because I want a response from you. I believe you are the most likely person to be a pirate and will be voting you when the votes on Trafalgar die down.
The day has only been up for 6 hours. It's a bit early to assume Bonny is locked off her account. It's something to watch for though. If there is a blackmailer, a journalist claim would be a likely victim.
As a small followup to Boa's/your posts, If Bonney is blackmailed, then we can probably assume that her target was not a Pirate member. Caribou is pretty sure that if a Pirates member got the interview, if they indeed decided to blackmail Bonney; they simply wouldn't have answered the article to try and make her look like a liar about her claim.
Of course it wouldn't exclude the target from being CP9, Rebel or Neutral.
Just speculations.
IMO interviews should contain information hinting at that person's role, anonymus accusations, and the like. To leave that steaming pile of dog as an interview means the person who wrote it is a shite player, or they have something to hide, personally I am thinking it is the latter.
I think the journalist should reveal whoever wrote this as there is a good chance they are scum (I assume you interviewed someone scummy as well). If they were a PR they should have said so in the interview so the journalist can collect claims and form a role list early. They could have also told the journalist to re-interview them for information. I think even a citizen should have claimed so in the interview but the interviewee might not be the greatest player judging by how late he wrote the article and its content. It's a little odd that he put how late he wrote it in as if he's making an excuse for how useless it is or more likely so the interview does not look like it has been planned in a mafia chat. He wants everyone to think that he wrote this on his own, which is why he is so late.So umm, i kind of didn't notice i had been given the chance to write up an article.
This should prove Bonneys innocence, atleast in my eyes it should.
My view on the last day is as follows: The plans devised are a bit vague, but we should get a general gameplan after this night. The powerstruggle will be apparent once we know which factions have received even a minor strike as it will tip the balance drastically.
If i had noticed this earlier i would have given in detail reads on some players, but as is, i will just write a list of people we need to keep an eye on and pay more attention too. Also, the heavy lurkers need to be shot down.
Boa Hancock
Roronoa Zoro
Urouge
Cyborg Franky
Straw Hat Luffy
Trafalgar Law
Fire Fist Ace
Wet Haired Caribou
As i write this article literally 1 minute before the deadline, forgive me.
He says nothing in the interview that could not be said in day chat, so why say it? It seems like he's pressured by the interview and has to try make himself look pro-town by giving analysis, which really isn't unnecessary, especially if he is in a rush like he says he is. He says "if I'd noticed this earlier" as if he' trying really hard to make people think he's a citizen that has no reason to check his account at night. He only has 'pro-town', agreeable opinions like "wait and see with alliances" and "damn lurkers!" which show he is trying to fit in. This list is also a scum tell imo has it gives him the opportunity to list a team mate or two with the scummy players to distance himself from them.
I don't think a ventriloquist would go for Bonney because she probably posted a good code, since she was the one who suggested using them to begin with.
While the journalist article's so-called lurker list is rather messed up, that article (while useless) isn't necessarily scummy. It could have been made by a citizen who isn't paying much attention. That could be what the excuse posted at the top implies, that they saw the day was over and initially didn't bother checking if they got any PMs. Wouldn't be the first time someone didn't show up for jail chat. What goes against this theory is that players who aren't paying attention are usually lurkers too, so it makes no sense to suggest shooting lurkers for someone like that.
Another possibility is that the article was posted by someone who is trying to look like the village idiot. I'm looking at Trafalgar here. Bonney DID say she was going to interview someone of whom she was certain that they'd be alive today, if I recall correctly.
I wouldn't be surprised if Trafalgar wrote it after his first post today.
Like you say, it's a possibility, sure, but to me it seems that the person is trying to look like a citizen as to not appear scummy. The report is rather useless because the interviewee could have wanted to hide information which would help scumhunting, and if the interviewee is scum then it's clear that he didn't want to help too much. For now we can't do anything about that anyway until Bonney tells us who it is.
So umm, i kind of didn't notice i had been given the chance to write up an article.
This should prove Bonneys innocence, atleast in my eyes it should.
My view on the last day is as follows: The plans devised are a bit vague, but we should get a general gameplan after this night. The powerstruggle will be apparent once we know which factions have received even a minor strike as it will tip the balance drastically.
If i had noticed this earlier i would have given in detail reads on some players, but as is, i will just write a list of people we need to keep an eye on and pay more attention too. Also, the heavy lurkers need to be shot down.
Boa Hancock
Roronoa Zoro
Urouge
Cyborg Franky
Straw Hat Luffy
Trafalgar Law
Fire Fist Ace
Wet Haired Caribou
As i write this article literally 1 minute before the deadline, forgive me.![]()
Could be a trick as to hide his identity.
i could also write like that and i dont think that anyone would be able to identify me or atleast not if i change some words id normally use
We can only assume, but it's better to wait for Bonney. We can't just guess the interviewee's poosible identity and then pressure him hoping it's the right person.
busy today. i'll read, but won't pay particular attention until 2:00 my time tomorrow.
I 100% FOR ANYONE THAT VOTED ME BEFORE I REVEALED.
if anyone think i'm bmed/ventriloquisted, say something, but i'd like to keep my code for now.
if anyone ever thinks i'm ventriloquisted after, i can write my own report to publish next to my interviewee.
How about giving the solution for your code first of all, Bonney?
There's absolutely no reason to keep it to yourself. Just make a new one each day.
oh sorry, should read the whole thread before posting.
personally, i believe a citizen who didn't bother checking his inbox cuz he thought he'd have nothing to do. i'm totally okay with this vote, i think.