S-FM 362: ?KRC: Odyssey through the Ages

[FM-Aliens Are Real]

Besides, we should always have a bias against low-content slots, simply because they are either straight up coasting scum or nigh-useless town that penalizes us for keeping them around until lategame (as they are question marks).

No-content inaction is a cardinal sin that cannot be allowed to exist in such a clean town.

I very much support this thinking. Anyone who wants to coast until the late game should be targeted. They put the rest of the players in a place where there is very little to read them on without some action that solves them.

For my Second Presidential action I declare that henceforthwith shalt all lurkers shall be given thine extra attention to keep our late game pure!

In other news,

-vote FM-Mtn Dew Horse

Literally a warg. DON'T TOUCH MY MUFFALO HERD, YOU MONSTER

-vote FM-Mtn Dew Horse

Im down (half to see what happens and half to verify something)

[FM-Fast Fish]

why does this feel like it has 500 caveats when it only has like 2

What do you mean? Elaborate. Go into detail. Unpack that. Be descriptive. Break it down.

[FM-Ryast]

it is absolutely not unpairing btw
towny yes unpairing no

I like the swift and forceful shutdown here

[FM-Great Speech]

Although also, we don't know yet if elections are nightly or if I am just it until I die. (For the argument of fun I am thinking nightly elections but totally could be wrong)

The announcement did say "for the following day", so I'd go for the "nightly" option here. Wouldn't be terribly democratic to elect a dictator for life.


Also, looking at mountain dew warg horse person's ISO after seeing them mentioned in multiple posts, I don't like the vibes I get from their ISO. Feels fake (and not just for the opening post, even though it also did feel weird). (My vote is already on them due to their avatar because FUN)

[FM-Ryast]

I think last KRC some town was yeeted on day 1, and as result, a lot of town formed reads and started blasting all the mafia the next few days. Mafia only ended up winning because last cruised through 1v15 situation or something.

yeah it was based on a bad read -- the town believed the guy was innocent for various spew reasons (and some circumstantial mech, I think?) when actually the mafia thought he would die earlier in the game and be bussed off

I'm not sure of the details frankly but I think its within the ballpark of what happened

its a good reminder for everyone in this game to occasionally re-evaluate everything they think they know

[FM-Fast Fish]

The announcement did say "for the following day", so I'd go for the "nightly" option here. Wouldn't be terribly democratic to elect a dictator for life.


Also, looking at mountain dew warg horse person's ISO after seeing them mentioned in multiple posts, I don't like the vibes I get from their ISO. Feels fake (and not just for the opening post, even though it also did feel weird). (My vote is already on them due to their avatar because FUN)

You should vote for me.

[FM-Dirty Harry]

Good afternoon my fellow Odysseyans. Today is a great day for our nation!

For although it is a burden that has been placed upon me which I did not ask for I will strive to exercise my powers to the fullest of my ability. For our great nation is under threat. Some called me crazy when I created awareness groups to discuss the threat but we know they are among us. The Aliens are REAL and we will find them!

The unfortunate reality before us is that we must live our days in fear. Although those dastardly bastards have discovered the secrets of intergalactic travel they are dedicated to an evil plot to kidnap and probe us. We all know they are just perverts! And they must be stopped! Because although they may start with us they will not stop there. Next they will be probing our pets and god forbid, our fish. I believe it is important to national security that we protect our Fish and I will endeavor to do so.

Excellent question. I have been granted additional voting power by our great nation in the dire struggle against those pervy aliens.

I will make you this promise my fellow citizens. We shall not rest until every last one of those little perverts is hunted down no matter the cost. Some of us may have to make great sacrifices in order to accomplish this goal. Even the ultimate sacrifice. But any cost is worth it to protect the safety of our booty's, our pets, our fish. My fellow Odysseyans, let us work together on this great journey as we hunt down every last alien. Do not go into the light and do not accept rides from strangers!

Mr president-sama what’s the proof of aliens being real

[FM-Aliens Are Real]

FM-Happy Drunk (1):
FM-Purple Forest
FM-White Square (2):
FM-Smug Viking, FM-Lady of the Lake
FM-Dirty Harry (1):
FM-Angry Clown
FM-Angry Clown (1):
FM-Fast Fish
FM-Incognito (2):
FM-Wine Mom, FM-Snail Streamer
FM-Bosun (1):
FM-Mountain Tops
FM-My Plants (1):
FM-Jiraffe
FM-Mtn Dew Horse (2):
FM-Great Speech, FM-Aliens Are Real

Just to make it clear to everyone so we can all stay on the same page about trains and vote counts- That number should be 4. I have a vote power of 1 +2 for Pres

[FM-Ryast]

It's gonna take me a minute and a half to just get used to pfp's and names and personality types
Don't expect anything towny for me quite yet

I have 0 reads so far, I'm just noting what others find towny/slimy

If anything I think that "Clown" is slightly towny due to the "Bad vibes" post. Not that I necessary find the post quoted wolfy myself, but the "Bad vibes sadface" comment seemed a bit similar to how I tend to react to stuff early game. Like, it doesn't really seem agenda-y, moreso a genuinly disappointed reaction.

But I imagine some players here fakes that without a problem, so.

I think this is towny

I'd put it at as 70 out of 100 is the chance that I'm not wrong

[FM-Jiraffe]

FM-Happy Drunk (1):
FM-Purple Forest
FM-White Square (2):
FM-Smug Viking, FM-Lady of the Lake
FM-Dirty Harry (1):
FM-Angry Clown
FM-Angry Clown (1):
FM-Fast Fish
FM-Incognito (2):
FM-Wine Mom, FM-Snail Streamer
FM-Bosun (1):
FM-Mountain Tops
FM-My Plants (1):
FM-Jiraffe
FM-Mtn Dew Horse (2):
FM-Great Speech, FM-Aliens Are Real

Just to make it clear to everyone so we can all stay on the same page about trains and vote counts- That number should be 4. I have a vote power of 1 +2 for Pres

wait so bc ur prez u get effectively 3 voting power? am a bit confused

[FM-Dirty Harry]

I'd like to ask everyone to claim where they voted for the presidency last night, I know we can't exactly trace every vote since I think there were some no-votes, but I am suspect of the slots who received 2 or more votes and where those votes came from

It’s ok ojisan, go back to bed

That being said I forgot to vote I am a no voter

[FM-Jiraffe]

I think this is towny

I'd put it at as 70 out of 100 is the chance that I'm not wrong

really? I read the exact same post as kinda scum indicative. felt very hedgey. "oh i think clown is town for this. I don't agree with the post, btw. and also people can fake it. but heres what i think."

read as someone afraid to make a commitment, which to me is typically scum

could you explain more?

[FM-Fast Fish]

wait so bc ur prez u get effectively 3 voting power? am a bit confused

It kinda makes sense. Do you not trust our God and savior, Aliens Are Real?

[FM-Aliens Are Real]

Mr president-sama what’s the proof of aliens being real

(To stay on flavor but seriously answer)

We all know the government of lizard men in human suits has been covering their existence up for years. But even if you are so ignorant as to deny the simple truth that the earth is hollow (Where else would Godzilla come from) the simple fact is a question of numbers. If the universe is infinite everything that possibly can happen not only happens, but happens infinite times. But even if its just really big with only 30 trillion galaxies random probability suggests the high likelihood of an evil group of aliens plotting against us.

Also, no bullshit why I pushed to pressure lurkers because I would have expected a hard vote pattern reflected to grab this Pres spot, and why I have an eye on Viking, although that could simply mean that aliens dont exist.. but then what am I gona do with this cool tinfoil hat I got?
Capture.JPG

[FM-Jiraffe]

It kinda makes sense. Do you not trust our God and savior, Aliens Are Real?

i just wanted to make sure i understood correctly
i didn't vote so i'm undecided on which candidate i should follow in the future. people are vying for my vote next election cycle

[FM-Dirty Harry]

I am in agreement of snail-San here that incognito’s inquiry is a bit odd and awkward. There’s also the fact they look like a Sith Lord who will execute order 66 on us

[FM-Aliens Are Real]

Yes. Exactly that. So people will have to factor that in when looking at vote counts.

I will neither confirm nor deny if I can do other stuff

[FM-Jiraffe]

i keep seeing people talk about incognito but i feel like ive seen like, 0 of their posts lmao. maybe they just incognito like that

[FM-Fast Fish]

Yes. Exactly that. So people will have to factor that in when looking at vote counts.

I will neither confirm nor deny if I can do other stuff

We could rule this town with an iron fist.

[FM-Ryast]

It makes perfect sense to me (they are accusing you of having TMI on my alignment and in turn being hyperaware of my positioning in the thread in a world where we are aligned), and moreover it represents a town mindset. I think Mountain Tops should be town leader.

I dont think they were even accusing them of being aligned

if we're jumping to the hypotheticals here, it could just as easily be spew mindfuckery given the simplicity of the post

[FM-Ryast]

hiya all!
gust came back from costco, they didnt have any gif peanutbutter for some reason

your username is great with that pfp

although now its making me imagine some sort of horror game that has liquified or semi-solid giraffe in a glass or plastic jar

oh no

[FM-Fast Fish]

your username is great with that pfp

although now its making me imagine some sort of horror game that has liquified or semi-solid giraffe in a glass or plastic jar

oh no

What should scare you is the lettering. Look at that font with the black background. You think they did that in ms paint? Jiraffe is a fraud.

[FM-Ryast]

Wine Mome also striked me as reading /energy/ as in like, /excitement/ and it being equated to more likely scum or not, which is not something I agree with much. Specially because its KRC , we have little silly avas and the energy and fun is easy to have regardless. And the ausence at least at the start I dont think its that much AI.
I'm mulling if that value / metric from Wine Mom its their playstyle, or is scum who is using those sort of easy to contrast metric to pretend to be solving/hunting.

Let me know your opinions chat!!

my opinion is that this seems so specific that I have a hard time knowing what you're talking about?

the English is a bit funky too (I don't mean offense -- just asking you re-phrase or re-word or give examples or something)

[FM-Ryast]

Incognito was surprised that the president's abilities were not described by the host. This could indirectly indicate that he and the president are on the same team. Also, the mafia is more interested in uncovering role abilities rather than hunting for scums.

His interference in my dialog with Fish also looks suspicious.

However, his posting style is similar to “distance yourself from everyone, suspect everyone”, which is not only cames from mafia, but also of overly paranoid town players.

Incognito looks suspicious, and perhaps I'll support this vote in the future. But I can't report and participate in the investigation at the same time, so I'll come back to this discussion after the President's inaugural address.

Thanks for sticking with us, SSN Radio is going on commercial break!

I like Iris now upon this

also I had an angle-shooty reason earlier which I wont be sharing in the interest of self-preservation from thy wrathful gods

[FM-Ryast]

-vote FM-Incognito

[FM-Ryast]

[MENTION=46841]
I like this post. It is good and towny.

That was my initial thought as well, but devil's advocate for a moment:

Different community + wolf surprised by town behavior

Could be a reasonable cause for it be NAI

[FM-Wasteland]

I was hoping that we'd find out what this President can do in the opening mod post

and... why is that?!
Thats kinda fishy ngl

-vote fm-incognito

[FM-Ryast]

Is there a casee?

....do you need a case for a d1 vote? what's your standards for a d1 case?

assuming you aren't just using that term very loosely

[FM-Fast Fish]

and... why is that?!
Thats kinda fishy ngl

-vote fm-incognito

Leave me out of this.

[FM-Wine Mom]

I understand that the first guy in the list got presidential votes, but what about smug viking?
Quite strange...

Wanna claim your vote?

I self voted like all the other smart people

In other news, I think I've disagreed with the bulk of Ryast's posited takes but I'll hold off on passing judgement on their alignment for a bit.

[FM-Ryast]

Oh, I Townread Orange Iris aswell. I like what they are doing , I'll leave it at that

I

I'm kiiiinda townreading Snail over circumstantial reasons from my own pov

which isn't that strong of a townread but like thats whats speaking to me right now when I see them; not entirely knowing what's going on in their head, but at the same time recognizing they're having some similar reads that I like which I can't help but not ignore

[FM-Ryast]

10

*takes quiz*

"On 1 to 10 how would you rate your wolf play?"

"10"

"You're a top tier wolfer!"

*quiz ends*



I have no idea where I am going with this but I thought it would be amusing.

[FM-Ryast]

Similar lines of thought! I am appreciative of a kindred spirit.

come to think of it

we don't even know for sure if the election was acutally...uh...rigged.

like whoever organized it could have +1 vote for example or some other shenanigans



maybe we should be intentionally doing a full count of everyone's claimed votes or no-votes?

[FM-Jiraffe]

What should scare you is the lettering. Look at that font with the black background. You think they did that in ms paint? Jiraffe is a fraud.

huh? i did do it in ms paint. how dare you accuse me of doing otherwise

[FM-Ryast]

You actually submitted that avatar? I thought for a second it was the hosts that gave it to you for not making one but had to make it different from white square.

nope, in fact I think I may have prompted the white square announcement with my avatar

I just thought I would make fun of it being an anonymous game, hence "player not found"

[FM-Ryast]

If the hosts post it, I know it to be true. If the player posts it, I need to evaluate how much I trust that person to be telling everything about it. As it is right now, he said he has more voting power but did not indicate how much, an omission that no one has commented on yet.

I was more-so saying if you wanted to get as much information then you'd probably risk getting uncertain (not completely trustworthy) information as well -- and therefore @ them with questions about it to get at least a claim on paper or something like that

so like if they claim X on early d1 but then something contradicts their claim later it'd be easier to spot

at least as compared to them not claiming what it did and then configuring their claim to meet the circumstances later

and hence when you realized the hosts did not elaborate on the president it bugged me that you did not ask them

[FM-Ryast]

I don't see why you'd need citations to know that if you were town. What is that meant to convey? Are you claiming third party or something?

you have a lackluster sense of humor

[FM-Snippy]

Hi

[FM-Ryast]

What do you mean? Elaborate. Go into detail. Unpack that. Be descriptive. Break it down.

I'm slightly side-eyeing you for this post, just looking at this post by itself.

But onto my elaboration you asked for:

All questions below are rhetorical in nature, not asking for them to be answered.

"towniest post so far" -> Why did so far have to be emphasized? Don't we all know d1 reads are not the best or are not as strong? And whats with the "towniest" wording here as if they actually townread it preety low? Mini-tangent, if its so good, whats so bad about other posts in the game that they're not saying?

"not that its necessarily correct" -> Why the need to clarify that its not correct? It also just feels off tone-wise; I'd say more like "Not that I agree with it"

It honestly feels like the sort of read a wolf would make. Caveats everywhere or very strong caveats with strong openness for the future.

[FM-Ryast]

Errr if "its not that good"

Not "if its so good"

....Words. I hope it comes across as coherent because I'm not entirely sure it did.

[FM-Lolcat]

cool game, and it's been fun reading all the personalities so far, but i'll be away for 9-10 hours.

-vote FM-Angry Clown

angry clown - I can see the erratic behaviour when people rand wolf and don't know how to slide into the game, this usually suggests strong guilt from rand.


watchlist:
mountain tops
bosun
purple forest

not a fos, but more like I need some time to reread stuff fr

peace~

[FM-Fast Fish]

*takes quiz*

"On 1 to 10 how would you rate your wolf play?"

"10"

"You're a top tier wolfer!"

*quiz ends*



I have no idea where I am going with this but I thought it would be amusing.

Dude I went back and forth with myself over it. Real soul-read shit.

That feeling where it's like ok you're giving reads but do you believe those reads. Are they actually reads? If those reads stop should you be launched into space? Should I be telling you this?

[FM-Ryast]

The announcement did say "for the following day", so I'd go for the "nightly" option here. Wouldn't be terribly democratic to elect a dictator for life.


Also, looking at mountain dew warg horse person's ISO after seeing them mentioned in multiple posts, I don't like the vibes I get from their ISO. Feels fake (and not just for the opening post, even though it also did feel weird). (My vote is already on them due to their avatar because FUN)

On the one hand, I hope its nightly because that would be the best for the town I think.

On the other hand, I think a prolonged term length or dictator-till-death would actually be more fun. Imagine trying to justify to yourself if you yeet the less-suspicious but potentially more dangerous president OR the more suspicious but probably less dangerous suspect.

Adds some very interesting dynamics for fun.

[FM-Ryast]

really? I read the exact same post as kinda scum indicative. felt very hedgey. "oh i think clown is town for this. I don't agree with the post, btw. and also people can fake it. but heres what i think."

read as someone afraid to make a commitment, which to me is typically scum

could you explain more?

I think your hedging perspective is a valid concern but I'd don't really see why a wolf would opt for that. Day 1 gives them the most freedom they can get and we have (hypothetically) one who just claimed they took notes on a bunch of interactions or reads but generally avoided commenting on most of them. I don't expect wolves to have zero hedges in their whole gameplay -- that'd be silly -- but its also equally silly to expect their reads for the majority of the players to be hedges.

It strikes me as poor wolf play at the wost and, at best and more probable, a town who's invested in solving and says not to expect much of themselves just yet.

[FM-Ryast]

Adding on to my last post, I also think its worth noting that its very likely many of us were invited to this game. With that in mind I'd doubt I would see poor play (though it can unfortunately happen to anyone).

[FM-Fast Fish]

I'm slightly side-eyeing you for this post, just looking at this post by itself.

But onto my elaboration you asked for:

All questions below are rhetorical in nature, not asking for them to be answered.

"towniest post so far" -> Why did so far have to be emphasized? Don't we all know d1 reads are not the best or are not as strong? And whats with the "towniest" wording here as if they actually townread it preety low? Mini-tangent, if its so good, whats so bad about other posts in the game that they're not saying?

"not that its necessarily correct" -> Why the need to clarify that its not correct? It also just feels off tone-wise; I'd say more like "Not that I agree with it"

It honestly feels like the sort of read a wolf would make. Caveats everywhere or very strong caveats with strong openness for the future.

I'm not ignoring this post, I'm just not discussing it.

[FM-Fast Fish]

Damn Ryast is speedrunning Mafia and I'm pretty sure wolves are sleeping right now. Hah.

[FM-Fast Fish]

Or Ryast is powerwolfing and we're all screwed.

[FM-Ryast]

Dude I went back and forth with myself over it. Real soul-read shit.

That feeling where it's like ok you're giving reads but do you believe those reads. Are they actually reads? If those reads stop should you be launched into space? Should I be telling you this?

This directed to me or to snails?

[FM-Fast Fish]

This directed to me or to snails?

Snails.