S-FM 350: Chaotic Executioner

[ItalianoVD]

Well I'm off to bed. Nice talking to you guys. I'll be back tomorrow. Ciao.

[Stellaria]

Eh, it's Day 2, it's okay to have awful reasoning early on. ;) I've learned not to talk about things I don't know about and mechanics is a weak point for me and that's why I didn't really engage on Day 1 about what would be best to vote for, etc.

That's fair. Honestly, mech is a bit more of my strength. But I wasn't able to make as much posts as I wanted to, I ended up forgetting my password and got locked out on mobile. I reset my password today tho

[Stellaria]

Sweet dreams

[ikarusdk]

I don't have permission to view that page

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[ikarusdk]

Well I'm off to bed. Nice talking to you guys. I'll be back tomorrow. Ciao.

good night see you trtomorrow.

[Stellaria]

well uh is there anything you wanna talk about ikarus? im kind of at a loss atm

[ikarusdk]

well uh is there anything you wanna talk about ikarus? im kind of at a loss atm

not really.

I am not experienced enough to see through peoples day 1 opening posts, so I am just waiting for more people to show up and post stuff. Don't know what else to do till then lol

[Stellaria]

oh right weren't you renaissance panda? isn't this your 2nd game?

[Stellaria]

i was sunset btw

[ikarusdk]

oh right weren't you renaissance panda? isn't this your 2nd game?

Oh I am. But that was my 5th FM game.

[Stellaria]

oh wait I thought that was your first game

did you play elsewhere?

[ikarusdk]

oh that was my first wolf game. but 5th game in overall.

I started here, played 3 games, then 1 game in MU, before playing the KRC.

[Stellaria]

ohhhhh that makes sense

sorry, misunderstood, thought it was said in the discord for that game that it was your first game and you won it

[Gikkle]

Stellaria and Buster are currently lean town in my head rn. Also mildly ikaru? Probably less than the former two.
Still have a bad feeling about Loldebite from yesterday but I'll wait a bit to see what he does today before putting any kind of pressure there

[Gikkle]

Everybody Edits forums. Some of you might know Norwee from there, but I've also played with Gikkle there. Our rep this year was Onjit

Oh you're from everybody edits? What name do you go by there? I don't remember anybody named Stellaria

[Stellaria]

Oh you're from everybody edits? What name do you go by there? I don't remember anybody named Stellaria

Minimania

For various reasons I'm going by Stellaria at the moment. But you can still call me whatever you'd like

[Gikkle]

I feel villagery vibes from Yoshida, Renegade, and to a bit lesser extent from lol. Reason for this is through their posts. I read people tonally and by trying to figure out if what they'd say is alignment indicative. I know everyone does this and it's pretty par for the course, but it's my main course of action. I don't do mechanics, so gameplay is really important for me. With that being said, I have the opposite feeling when I read BusterCannon and Frinckles' post. I didn't like BusterCannon's reasoning for being suspicious of Renegade and when I asked about it he didn't acknowledge it.

-vote BusterCannon

I can maybe see yoshida but why renegade or lol?

[Renegade]

why should I? IkarusDK already backed you up. and tried to stop me from voting you because you're both scum

Because it is extremely suspicious to vote someone in FM without an explanation.

[Gikkle]

Because it is extremely suspicious to vote someone in FM without an explanation.

-vote Renegade

[Stellaria]

wait I thought it was normal to park votes on someone early game, i didnt think they really meant anything

[yoshida]

Excluding the coasters and the erratic few, I must express my appreciation for the valuable contributions you all are making.

[Renegade]

-vote Renegade

Care to offer an explanation?

[yoshida]

I also like Yoshida. I loved his way of speaking.

I also had a good vibe from Ren.

Not much feeling about loldebite yet.

I agree with everything you said about buster, minus the voting part.

When I analyze your assessment alongside Frinckles' reads, I am compelled to ask you what makes Ren better than Loldebite?

Would you provide a thorough explanation as to why the elimination of Buster is regarded as unfavorable?

[ikarusdk]

Care to offer an explanation?

No. You are scummy. Didn't you get the memo.

[ikarusdk]

When I analyze your assessment alongside Frinckles' reads, I am compelled to ask you what makes Ren better than Loldebite?

Would you provide a thorough explanation as to why the elimination of Buster is regarded as unfavorable?

good vibe doesn't mean towny read for me at least.

I just liked his reaction to Buster's accusations.



Okay as I was typing this, I went back and read the Jester's role again.

'Jester - When voted out, you exit the game with a victory. During Sudden Death, if you are voted out, game will instantly end with Jester's and Chaotic Executioner's victory. On Night 1, you may choose a role from the list for yourself for your own benefit. You may also receive an additional role from Chaotic Executioner and you can perform both roles every nights. It is possible that there are two of your roles in the game. (Your role that you choose, and the same role that Chaotic Executioner assigned to someone).'

So no downside for town for eliminating him. This is my first FM game with jester in it, and because lynching jester is bad for town in arcade, I initially thought this was bad, hence my 'i don't want to vote him'. I am actually doing an 180 on this, because if he is a jester, then he will most likely to choose a role that is detrimental to town so I'm fine with voting him if it comes down to it.



Now, as I explained earlier, I think buster is 45%town 45%Jester with 10% of mafia. Because I cannot get an accurate read on him yet to convince myself which alignment i think he is in for me to push, I am not willing to eliminate him just yet. I want to give him a benefit of a doubt for at least another 24 hours or so because he might just be a town that is only just finding the difference in arcade and FM set up.

[ikarusdk]

If you wanna ask me more questions, I am here to answer them. Feel free.

[Stellaria]

I think I'm probably gonna head off for the current moment. I'm getting a bit bored

[BusterCannon]

Care to offer an explanation?

he doesn't have to.

[ikarusdk]

Also I just realised I hadn't your answered your question properly about ren and loldebite.

Nothing really pinged me from reading Deb's posts whereas I know I recall liking the way you talked and liking ren's reaction to Buster? Since I also roped myself into ren-buster interaction, I naturally focused more on that. I don't know, but I guess I could go back and read loldebites posts since Gikkles said he had a bad feeling.

[BusterCannon]

Because it is extremely suspicious to vote someone in FM without an explanation.

what are you hiding renegade?

[BusterCannon]

Also I just realised I hadn't your answered your question properly about ren and loldebite.

Nothing really pinged me from reading Deb's posts whereas I know I recall liking the way you talked and liking ren's reaction to Buster? Since I also roped myself into ren-buster interaction, I naturally focused more on that. I don't know, but I guess I could go back and read loldebites posts since Gikkles said he had a bad feeling.

Gikkles has the same feeling I have

[ikarusdk]

Gikkles has the same feeling I have

I am assuming you mean loldebite? Can you explain the bad feeling you got for me?

[ikarusdk]

I am assuming you mean loldebite? Can you explain the bad feeling you got for me?

'bad feeling about loldebite' for me

[BusterCannon]

I am assuming you mean loldebite? Can you explain the bad feeling you got for me?

Gikkles the player.......You could be scum with renegade which is what im feeling.

[ikarusdk]

Gikkles the player.......You could be scum with renegade which is what im feeling.

wait, I am confused.

You said 'Gikkles has the same feeling I have'

So I am not sure who you mean.

I know you have bad feeling about ren and me.

Anyone else?

[BusterCannon]

wait, I am confused.

You said 'Gikkles has the same feeling I have'

So I am not sure who you mean.

I know you have bad feeling about ren and me.

Anyone else?

Gikkles is a player in this FM. Go back to page 1 and you will see him typing...

[ikarusdk]

Gikkles is a player in this FM. Go back to page 1 and you will see him typing...

yeah i know. I was initially asking about of WHOM you sshare the same feeling with Gikkles.

The only players he mentioned about bad feeling is loldebite but I think I understand what you meant. You mean I am less towny than yourself and Stella.

[BusterCannon]

yeah i know. I was initially asking about of WHOM you sshare the same feeling with Gikkles.

The only players he mentioned about bad feeling is loldebite but I think I understand what you meant. You mean I am less towny than yourself and Stella.

no thats definitely not true. he said he has a bad feeling about renegade

[ikarusdk]

no thats definitely not true. he said he has a bad feeling about renegade

If you are talking about this post, because this is the one I was tlalking about. And he doesn't talk about ren.

Stellaria and Buster are currently lean town in my head rn. Also mildly ikaru? Probably less than the former two.
Still have a bad feeling about Loldebite from yesterday but I'll wait a bit to see what he does today before putting any kind of pressure there

[BusterCannon]

If you are talking about this post, because this is the one I was tlalking about. And he doesn't talk about ren.

I don't get a bad reaction by what anything Loldebite said.....renegade yes..... you also. i like gikkles

[ikarusdk]

I don't get a bad reaction by what anything Loldebite said.....renegade yes..... you also. i like gikkles

ok fair, thanks.

[BusterCannon]

Anyways i might head to sleep soon. then come back tomorrow

[Nancy Drew 39]

Bro there is salt and pepper in that BBQ sauce.



Sheriff means this shit turns into cops n hookers and I hate that shit.



hi gikkle and @Loldebite

I know it’s already been decided and while I’m not a huge fan of alignment cops in games in general, I stand by my selection because sheriff is a role that can only have benefited town and was useless to mafia, so why anyone would have that strong an objection to sheriff doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me.

[clemensthelemon]

Finally back on phone
npte that the chaotic execution guy should be pushing for a vote here

[Renegade]

what are you hiding renegade?

I have nothing to hide. But the more you can elaborate about your reason why, the more information you give after I possibly flip. And town members need information, it is the town currency, and our way to win. The mafia and chaos exe have a lot of information to themselves.

I don't think I'm being unreasonable.

I'm not going to put words in your mouth, but you are voting me probably because you think I am scum based on what I said d1. Can you elaborate on that a little more?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Anyway imma d1 read this

Italiano - town
Renegade - neutral

Bus - town
Stell - town
Loldebite - town

EZ

I don’t understand the confidence on some of these reads. I like Stella and Italiano but I’d like you to elaborate on the rest.

Btw, does anyone know how we can do ISOs on this site?

[Renegade]

I don’t understand the confidence on some of these reads. I like Stella and Italiano but I’d like you to elaborate on the rest.

Btw, does anyone know how we can do ISOs on this site?

There is an iso list button at the top of the page. Next to vote history and vote count.

[Renegade]

What do you feel about Stellaria's proposal. Does it make sense? How would it work exactly?

Honestly I don't understand how the proposal does anything but add a ton of confusion to the game.

[yoshida]

good vibe doesn't mean towny read for me at least.

I just liked his reaction to Buster's accusations.



Okay as I was typing this, I went back and read the Jester's role again.

'Jester - When voted out, you exit the game with a victory. During Sudden Death, if you are voted out, game will instantly end with Jester's and Chaotic Executioner's victory. On Night 1, you may choose a role from the list for yourself for your own benefit. You may also receive an additional role from Chaotic Executioner and you can perform both roles every nights. It is possible that there are two of your roles in the game. (Your role that you choose, and the same role that Chaotic Executioner assigned to someone).'

So no downside for town for eliminating him. This is my first FM game with jester in it, and because lynching jester is bad for town in arcade, I initially thought this was bad, hence my 'i don't want to vote him'. I am actually doing an 180 on this, because if he is a jester, then he will most likely to choose a role that is detrimental to town so I'm fine with voting him if it comes down to it.



Now, as I explained earlier, I think buster is 45%town 45%Jester with 10% of mafia. Because I cannot get an accurate read on him yet to convince myself which alignment i think he is in for me to push, I am not willing to eliminate him just yet. I want to give him a benefit of a doubt for at least another 24 hours or so because he might just be a town that is only just finding the difference in arcade and FM set up.

I find your approach in the latter part quite interesting.

Initially, everyone starts with a 61.5% chance of being town, given the ratio of 8 town players out of 13 total players. With a day elimination, the ratio becomes 7/12, resulting in a 58.3% chance. If a night kill occurs, the ratio further shifts to 6/11, equating to a 54.5% chance. The key difference between this game and arcade is the ample time available to carefully analyze all that is being said and adjust the probabilities for each player accordingly. It's refreshing to witness your understanding that some players will adopt their own preferred playstyle, and there is no need to dwell excessively on it.

However, I struggle to comprehend the rationale behind assigning a 45% chance of being a Jester to certain players. Frankly, your reads thus far appear rather forced in my perspective.

I do not intend to be overly insistent, and I prefer to respect your personal space as I genuinely believe your contributions hold value in this game.

Regarding the EOD vote, whom would you prioritize eliminating: someone with a higher chance of being mafia or someone with a higher chance of being a Jester?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Now that I think about it, he could be Jester; taking his total posts into account, but I think it's more likely that it's mafia trying to play like Jester like Ikarus mentioned.

Interesting, Ren actually sounds more like a jester to me since they’re trying pretty hard to be cagey.

Buster could be jester but he’s trying pretty hard to look town.

That kind of aggression generally is more likely to either come from tunnelly town or scum.