Here is another reason it’s Mizery and Oliver.
Mizery still has refused to vote the Red Checked Cape and I don’t know if they mentioned Cape yet, they clearly had Cape at the lowest priority to execute in their PoE prior to the red check.
Oliver voted me because I didn’t vote Cape and also suspects Auwt for not catching up or whatever.
But doesn’t even look at the fact Mizery is still against voting out Cape.
I hated backreading this thread. its a talent to expand 1 sentence into 3 paragraphs.
Martin is clearly pissed that mizery is calling them town and double downing on it is more townie
feels genuinly amused that they think they're unreadable in the third sentence
second sentence having some self awareness on how they play the game is normally townie, or at least echoing it to thread
Obvious Towns:
Porscha
Lily
Martin
Huo Huo
Luka
Confirmed Town:
Helz
Also Mizery never even had Oliver in their final team
thoughts did they? Lol.
Cape was fucked so they gotta protect their last teammate lol.
i feel bad for not checking in until now, I don't/havent had time. Sup? Where the thread at so far?
I’m sorry but Luka.
If you read over Mizery’s response to Hau Hau after they claimed a red on Cape
Mizery basically said/hinted/softed that Hau Hau could be evil teacher so they aren’t going to vote Cape.
Which is hilarious because Cape would still be mafia.
Fucked by my schedule maybe
Apparently there is a claimed red on me?
Hilarious
But I am town and you will see that with my flip
Pick One.
After we get rid of you and Mizery I think I’ll play Tic Tac Toe with Oliver until he perishes.
Oliver seems like a fun guy to play Tic Tac Toe with.
Last edited by powerofdeath; November 25th, 2023 at 11:30 AM.
PoV’s and Emotion find the town.
Not acting with a “real” response because as I said.
Mafia PoV they know who town is.
If it's not ultimate tic tac toe who are you
Like that so “real” response of:
I said what I said but the way your acting comes from town.
Wolf POV can easily say this
@Hau Hau
Again, so you know the plan.
Target me and Mizery tonight.
So um.
I also looked at a role in the game and like if it is present in the game @Mizery your fucked lol.
Legit if your wolf you cannot win out of it.
Oh wait.
Cape is just Evil Flower Child lol.
Also if there is a Cat Lady.
Don’t be afraid to target Mizery, maybe even Oliver if you want.
Also I realized there is 3 Protectives possible in this game so your rather quite safe Hau Hau considering Helz doesn’t need protection due to the Bounty Hunter giving them a permanent one.
Gotta be honest kinda sucks how little helz has talked so far
Probably bored.
He didn't talk much last game
It's more of a tone / general lack of scumminess thing. Mizery feels... idk, genuinely trying to solve? ISOing them for further analysis.
yes i actually should've done that earlier but i guess i was just too tired to think of it lol
Okay um, reading Mizery's posts in ISO format does make them look pretty bad in the end. Lots of questions with no follow-up whatsoever, lack of any followable progression, very importantly lack of votes to pressure or to follow the mouth (example: addressing Lily's posts without actually concluding anything about her alignment; actually I could see that interaction being scum theatre)... Also just realized their vote on Baker is RIDICULOUSLY UNEXPLAINED
This quote above is the ONLY interaction Mizery had with Baker. Then...
Yeah, that's actually bloody horrible lmao
Okay so SCRATCH WHAT I SAID BEFORE, Mizery is scummy. Their posts don't look that bad in the context of the thread, but when read in ISO format... Eww lol.
I should use ISO more ig
Seeing Luka townread pretty much everything, sooo
Do you have any scumreads, good sir?
Also, where is @Auwt ? He hasn't been around in ages, and lots of things have happened. Reads?
Looked back at this and I think you've probably read ISOs instead of the thread, reading it in ISO format I can see that.
Outside of ISOs its a fairly big stretch that's what they were implicitly saying.
Also Oli's d1 case on Baker was an example of how even stuff we directly say could be a mistake/misinterpreted or whatever.
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After reading several more DM posts, I'm just going to assume the part of the brain responsible for conf-biasing so that we make stretchy arguments went haywire on DM's brain.
It doesn't really change my opinions right now though. Just wanted to be clear whatever DM says isn't really my own arguments even if we may have similar conclusions on stuff.
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thanks for your input
that's basically what I was thinking -- they aren't really solving (or if they are it isn't very clear from time to time imo). I mean that more like in reference to a broader behavior rather than "oh hey they put a read out that's solving"
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LIST OF READS - MID-D2
Helz - duh
Huo Huo - the odds of their claim being false are very low
Martin - generally solvy tone, asking questions with follow-ups, voting Huo with me at EoD is a good look (no reason for scum to follow me there, knowing that Baker was town), also called me performative early (meta says town because he seems to always think I'm performative because I do things lol); general lack of red flags
Dark Magician - his "thug life townie style" annoys me, but I think he's genuine in it lol, there's also a visible progression
Oliverz - looked like he was genuinely happy to have "found scum" when he voted Baker on D1; weak D2 so far, though, actually kinda suspicious, so he doesn't get to enter townread heaven
Scumbot - Pretty much like Dark Magician, but weaker, idk; could easily be neutral, but probably not scum
Luka - gut town
Porscha - gut town from early game, but decaying a lot from... literally not existing
--- Null zone ---
Bunch of unimpressive inactives - Varcron, Auwt
--- Null zone ---
Lilypetal - generally unimpressive, early D1 post pings me (already mentioned that a lot), fits in pretty much all scum teams, there seems to be resistance to pushing her for a reason I fail to understand = suspicious
Mizery - see my recent post regarding her ISO
Cape - I believe Huo
FOR REAL tbh
maybe thanksgiving is messing with stuff
although it wouldn't surprise me if Helz is being intentionally quiet
generally (not always) higher-skill players will shut the heck up if they're confirmed just because they don't want wolves strategizing around them and their opinions
though helz has to abide by the 24 hour 5 post requirement and also like there's nothing preventing him from shitposting in the meanwhile so idk
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Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
A few thoughts after catching up-
As it was pointed out the Bounty Hunter on me does provide me with night immunity.
I also feel its very important that I am killed by D4 as that not doing so grants them both Night immunity and Lynch immunity.
Looking through the roles I think its most likely that the Mafia kill landed on me and I was protected. I was expecting a 2kpn so potentials in my mind for a corruptor to exist. EOD2 will solve that for us otherwise there is a werewolf with night/lynch immunity or an evil teacher that made a bad guess.
I do not understand the logic that Huo could be an evil teacher. Evil Teacher is not an information gathering role, its a killing role so the only potential there is if Cape is not town and is also night immune while me being protected kept me alive which is both extremely unlikely and would require Huo to leverage themselves based on these improbable assumptions.
We do still need to consider Cape's role given there is a pro-town utility role in neutrals but it would be a very tough sell for us to do so. The only real potential I could see is if I marry them to grab their exact role and we let them fight for a town win or bounty hunter kill before D4. The downside would be that if they are some other flavor of evil and bounty hunter is killed I will need to die to take them down.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Pondering the the cape claim
with bounty hunter out
mafia flower child prob makes more sense than town
mafia would need the extra protection if they got unlucky and no one was confirmed town, as well as the possibility of bounty hunter denying a mafia kill
that's my 2 cents of setup speculation
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