We didn't hesitate to eliminate goofy Oberon when he claimed switcher. Now we have a second switcher claim. What's the deal?
No let's get DM, who may or may not be triad, let the switcher switch around and end up with another goofy scenario tomorrow.
Damn, just cuz you like the guy I mean, if you are town and not voting the switcher cuz he is friends with you that is really lame.
Maybe a better argument would be that I was switcher D1, and that I switched with whoever claimed to be switcher before....
Everyone pressured me when I just wanted to read the thread
I believe the claim. I suspected as much well before he even made the claim and he even pointed to a place in the game where he seeded his alignment as Triad. Combine that with the fact Dark Magician is not even denying it and we have 2 scums in the bag.
Lynch Deathworlds today and Dark Magician can either become a vigi happy meal or our D3 lynch.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
I think DW is now beyond-a-shadow-of-a-doubt Switcher and needs to be yeeted today.
I also think you're a bit silly for hating on people on the DM train. DM is likely triad, which only the town wants to yeet, whereas EVERYONE wants DW to be yeet'd.
I'm only not voting now because I think this early of a day-end is absurd, and I want to be able to hear EVERYONE'S opinion on DW's confession before he's hammered.
If a switcher is outed, it is automatically built in that they have to claim they were formally triad so they can buy enough time to switch out again.
Folks I have some lovely time shares I'd like you to take a look at.
I've got a gun to my head! IT WASn'T ME, IT WAS *POINTS FINGER* I SWEAR SHOOT HIM AND LET ME GO!
oberon > bd
frinckles > scientist
martin > bd
naz > stalker
mattz > locksmith
dw > switcher
dm > witch/stalker
baker > ?
unknown1234 > ?
frostbyte > ?
helz > ?
renegade > ?
yzb25 > ?
shall we massclaim? or hold on to that for tomorrow?
But no one claimed to be Switcher before, which was part of your rough spot.
It's hard to see you as anything other than completely boned in this situation, since Naz saw you get converted. If Naz hadn't seen you, you could at least plausibly accuse DM, the other main suspect.
All I'm saying is, anything DW says today is heavily tainted with the desperation to survive another night and switch out.
Ya'll taking it as gospel. Prosperity gospel at least I hope.
I concede the point that DM should've revealed sooner. I agree on that.
I think that would be a waste of time. Triad don't even have a conflict of interest where they would want to keep the switcher alive. Our time would be better spent digging into other players. This DM DW situation looks very cleanly solved to me.
Frinckles is also semi-mechanically confirmed town and Naz is semi-mechanically confirmed as a form of tracker (Although could still be triad) This interaction solved a decent piece of the game. Theres 3 less players to solve.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
btw @Renegade
DW claimed sorcerer
not spy/vanguard.
DM claimed Stalker.
Do you realize that technically speaking sorcerers are stalkers just with control?
Honestly if DW was a former town Stalker, then I would imagine him fake claiming to have been a Spy/Vanguard
not a sorcerer (because I imagine sorcerer requires a bit more thought)
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
I'll admit that my urge to not end day is mostly an instinct, but whenever I think about why, I can always think of reasons.
What if Martin wants to give suggestions to the locksmith?
What if someone has a night action to share that can clarify if, say, DM or Naz are triad? What if that affects who gets investigated/followed/roleblocked?
We've gotten a few more puzzle pieces now, and it may be worth completing more of the puzzle before night.
Keep in mind I'm not suggesting to not-eliminate DW.
I'm just saying what he claims to formerly have been is somewhat convincing to me on the basis of how much pressure has been on him and how little time he has had to spend in the thread.
That and DM claimed stalker.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Okay, I think everyone except yzb and naz have had a chance to say something since DW's confession.
I really don't see how naz could have anything more to add, given we already know and have semi-verified his N1 action.
Just leaves yzb, whom I already strongly townread.
I just don't see the benefit in doing that when we likely have our next two lynches lined up. It will be D4 before that information has piratical value for the town unless we have a Vig.
And if we do have a Vig we have a living witch. Thats bad-jewjew in my book. I am against a mass claim today. It increases risk with no real benefit.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.
I'm neutral on a massclaim. Like you, I think we've narrowed things enough for the DH. I'm not sure how much knowing more claims would affect our night actions vs the triad actions.
Since we're not yeeting Triad until tomorrow, we can just massclaim tomorrow and catch them up then.
Intellectual growth comes from discussions, not arguments. If you are unwilling to change your position and hear the other persons side you are closed minded and wasting your time.
If you can not clearly explain what the other sides reasoning is you can not disagree with their position because you do not understand it.