Can anyone who's played with baker before tell me a little about his town meta?
Can anyone who's played with baker before tell me a little about his town meta?
This isn't where i parked my car.....
I have only one game's experience with him. That was in the newbie game about a month and half ago here, for both of us it was our first.
He's quite different this game as compared to before, a lot more developed than before as a player.
One thing that may be town indicative of him, even though I've attacked him for it, is how he jumps onto Mike. In that other game he was fairly quick to try and yeet me D1 (even though we ended up yeeting Zedus). In the same way (or similar fashion) he asserts his perspective on something, and attacks them for it. It is for this reason why I didn't immediately start looking at or questioning a bakermir scum possibility until the later half of D1 and after the window for real-time conversation to pass.
One thing that bugs me though is how he treated the Zedus v Martin interaction in that newbie game. In all honesty, he was there to calm down the situation and explain to Zedus how he is not making good arguments and making himself worse. Compared to this game, I think we have had a few misunderstandings but he doesn't seem to think or notice that (at least not initially). He automatically presumes these are scum-influenced misinterpretations on my part. So, it kinda feels like he was a de-escalating in the past but now in this game at times he has been escalating. Automatically all-caps SCUM claims and what not. Its kind of a stark difference compared to how he was in the past.
Then again, assuming we're both town, perhaps we just rub each other the wrong way at the moment as we develop as players and create our play styles and explore them.
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Blink if I was wolf I would NEVER NEVER give you town cred.
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My big three effortposters all seem TvTvT and quite frankly I'm tired of reading about it anyway. Just my take.
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OOG who ever came up with YEET instead of Lynch is CRAZY. If you dont want to say lynch fine say exile or something but YEET is Beyond words.
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This was the basis of Zedus read on me in our previous game and I was scum he TR me and literally said the same words "if baker is scum then im ok with winning" while pointing out my early claim.
I just hope you are looking at everyone from all angles Mike. I have been warned in both games not to scumread zedus. Martin reminded a few posts ago now of how I actually was trying to correct Zedus in order to save him from mislynch him in our first game. That is correct. After that game I had another game where I was in with Zedus and Martin wasn't there(I actually replaced martin for that game) and in this game I did find Zedus scum and called him out for having the same approach. I did also mention after both games IF i ever end up in a game with zedus again I will not be showing them my good understanding if they continue their playstyle.
This is why I am still having trouble reading him and I just wish people put some effort in that and not just call it "zedus town meta". I am starting to feel like that is becoming a thing which will haunt us eventually.
People I would never lynch today Blink, Mesk, Zedus. Anyone else I am ok with.
I know Mesk is comming off scummy. You may read me scum for it IDGAF. But his reaction to Bakermir feels to genuine to be fake Wolf or Virus.
Blink is not Wolf I feel strong in that read unless he just bamboozled me I did not like the Mike if you are wolf. That part got me a bit weirded out. But That can be my paranoia. Blink has been playing his strong town plays. So only thing blink can be is Virus (I already explained why on this). Not worth todays lynch.
Zedus Is as I am told is a new player. He has been evaluating everyone been paranoid on everyone. Naked Town.
I want to believe Baker is town Problem I WANT to BELIEVE. but there is something off. It has been bugging me I know this sounds bad but I want to see him die just to see his flip even if it is town. I know that is bad but that is where I am at. With him.
That is where I stand at this point.
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facts:
past two games he was town.
past two games I was town and scum.
past two games in his reads the people he scumread turned out to be town.
in my town game reads I had 50% accuracy on reading scum (i guessed dallarian/dw and failed on ash, lost to hammer)
he also mentioned after our second game post chat that WE WILL NEVER KNOW if he scum because he would be playing the same.
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Well, for starters, I believe to have more balls then anyone in this game. Except maybe Blink, I have heard him literally fuck his wife in a call once, and I know he produced two kids, so he clearly has something down there. But that's besides the point, there's nothing for you to understand. LOL. I am who I am and I work the same way I do every single town game. Too scummy to be scum. Yes, I just read myself... I took that out of a PTB play book. bite me.
That also doesn't explain why you claim to have evidence against me. Which you don't cause you can't have any. If you want to chalk it up to a play, shit play mate.
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One person I am haveing trouble reading is Renagade. Can anyone help me out on him? Anyone have reads on him?
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Bakers actually a hard read rn. A lot of the things he has said appear wolfy. Like calling me a wolf for explaining why i thought he was wolf. And wanting to kill the 2 afks near eod, and saying we should lynch frinckles because hes not here. There are some towny things that shine thru tho in some of his thought processes and such. I just get the feeling somethings off.
Correct me if i'm wrong but there are already pretty much 3 hard citizen claims out there. I just have a hard time with that atm.
This isn't where i parked my car.....
-vote renegadei'm cool with turning up the heat on him a bit.
This isn't where i parked my car.....
Last game we played dirty. It was my first scum game + sp mentioned he didnt have a scum win since ages(in the end) so our plan was fitting well for two noobs. Zedus thought we would never go for cheap tactics and then started tunneling on who he thought would be scum.
We decided there would be too much WIFOM and that we would never get suspected. So we were chill until we were poked. As soon as someone tried that (MM on me and you on SP) thats when we started push things around. I had to try hard on locking SB16's vote on MM then you slipped a vote and that was a surprise to us. We were still pretty confident in the WIFOM hell we caused and thanks to Zedus only townreading the scum team, we were in ok place so that game was doomed from the beginning.
This is a different game though, it is different in every aspect. I don't expect scum team to be similarly brave. This is why I believed there would be passive scums (at least 1-2) simply because of 3 parties, a lot of power roles, massmurderer and a lot of wifom baits.
You are right though. I am not playing any different than the game you mentored me in and thats where I am trying to improve right now in this game. I blindly believed one of the scums there even though at times I suspected them. I am trying to not make the same mistake and it is causing a lot of headaches both for me and for others.
Talking about this game, I still believe you and Mesk didn't take clear stance and that is slightly worrying even though it is still considered early. I am not sure if I should ignore that seeing there are 3 parties alive. I TR you mostly and I don't see why rest of the people wouldn't, especially Frinckles. I think you are consistent with your last game and also when you mentored me. I am familiar with your town game except I never seen a scum Varcron before so I have nothing to compare the two Varcron's with.
-vote RenegadeLet's go. He's had all of two interactions.
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Ok, I will be more baller and less judgemental with you since no one else is interested in reading you.
I don't know what to make of your insecure persona you have been displaying since the beginning. I don't know you and I am not sure if this is part of your gameplay or it is who you are in real as part of your way of humour or something.
Auwt suspected Zedus/Renegade pairing. Check their LW and earlier posts. They have been on to something about them in which I failed to see. Maybe you can.
I also mentioned early into the game where I suspected Zedus' exchange with Martin and Ren to potentially be artificial. But again I believed it is all loose strings.
After looking at Renegade's ISO, it kinda feels like he has been a spectator for the most part and just touched on a few topics here and there. Most of his focus as of late seems to be the MartinGG99 (me) v bakermir interactions, without much comment. It seems he has self-explained in his ISO (or seems to hint) a play style where he intentionally doesn't act overtly towny in order to catch TMI reads.
I agree with this vote, but I'd rather vote at the last time I'm active before EoD2.
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Ftr (For the record)
Renegade (3 [L-4]):
blinkskater, Frinckles, Mike
bakermir (1 [L-6]):
Mesk514
blinkskater (1 [L-6]):
Marshmallow Marshall
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-vote Zedus
After reading 2 pages I feel Dark Magician and Martin are good people. On the contrary, Zedus early reads list and interactions (specially the obsession with Dark Magician "TPR hunting" since his first post) seem kinda suspicious and/or fake.
I'm pretty comfortable with my decision.
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Ah, I also approve Mike.
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