Rumox is so full of shit i can smell him from boston. Fu k that i still think TDL is scum but MM doesn't NOT desetve my vote ima go bang my wife goodnight.
This isn't where i parked my car.....
Also all these references to past games don't help me to form my own opinion on what you guys are talking about. It's just hearsay to me. If you think a persons actions in a previous game is relevant please link the POST not the entire game thread. If you wish for me and others to come to an agreement with your read of a player, or at least entertain the read in my case, pls do so
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post778941
There is the link to what I was referring to
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https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post778944
there is the follow up to that last one. He was Mafia I was town
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are you seriously going to scum paint my jokes too lol
Also it works either way, both are acceptable. I will not take Latin courses from the one who says I "where" the sacrifice, sorry... :P more seriously, what are your thoughts on TDL, on Blink scumreading him, and why do you think Slaol - Blink is not TvS?
I am not trying to teach you anything My english is Awfull. I am pointing out some thing Distorted once told me in Turnabout how you like to try and give hiden messages using Latin. Not scum painting. just as you said Scum hunting. I trust no one. So am I going to push you yes I am. and I seamed to push a button with you on that last post. Did I find a secret you did not want out?
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Distorted11/27/2018
very subtle, and MM is one of the few people those kinds of hints works with
thats why hes so much fun to play with lol
Distorted11/27/2018
he goes into some unique coding and hidden messages in wordings
because i win with him.
'Alea jacta est' MMs post there is 'Point of no return"
It was all in game Jury chat trial 3 in Turnabout .
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@Mike
I agree coming into a game aiming to yolo hammer vote is scummy but I don't exactly see how it is relevant to this game right now. Sure he has the same carefree attitude with his vote in this game when compared to his previous scum game but the important distinction is that it isn't the hammer vote. However, this topic of Blink made me go re-read his posts.
Here he says MM has done nothing alignment indicative and doesn't scum read him.
Here he says he does think MM can actually be scum.
What was it that MM did in between these posts for Blink to go from "There isn't anything to scum read him on" to "I do think MM could potentially be scum"?
From what I gathered during this period, MM's postings involved scum reading Slaol and voting him because Slaol wouldn't post MM's scum slips, to also throwing shade at Blink himself. I'd really like @blinkskater to explain his thought process here. Sorry for the wallpost. It's ugly as fuck I know. Hypothetically speaking if I was to make a read on someone with those posts it would be in MM's favor since Slaol did in fact beat around the bush in regards to why MM is being scum read.
I want others to read the slips themselves first. It justifies my read further. Too much preemptive hand holding
There is no way rumor can be scum Calling this now. rumor is town. Doc or Bg rumor would be a good target to protect. or he is one hell of a good player.
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You're phone posting aren't you Mike lol
My name being auto corrected to rumur
Rumor* oops
yes lol sorry
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Night all have a good night will catch up tomorrow.
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He is a very good player tho lol, but I lean towards town too. He goes a tad on top of the naz-blink-creeds trio in my list of reads (who are small town leans). Good reasoning, he also doesn't over-detail and overthink his stuff as he does as scum (See the game called The Smith's in which we were scum together if you really want to dig it up, it's not really important tho).
I'd even say he's better than sheepsaymeep!
This is a bit difficult to map out but there is always a theoretical probability. Sure independent events are unique from each other and obviously unique rolls of a persons role's can't possibly know the person's past BUT experimental probability will always express close to the theoretical probability with enough event occurrences. Basically, yeah you're right, but with 2k SFM's that are all, for the sake of theory, 9 town 4 mafia, it should be expected that the same 13 people all have a ratio of 9T:4M by the end of it. The odds get exponentially lower with each flip of town that Mike gets.
alright... I'm at post 170ish, man you guys talked alot while I was at work. Hope it's worth the read. I'll reply to most stuff in a huge post in a bit.
All of this is fluffy as fuck. Relaunching the useless discussion on probabilities that does not make anything advance in terms of scum hunting, saying god doesn't exist (Which will obviously cause a "NO U GOD EXISTS HERE'S A RANDOM QUOTE OF THE BIBLE" and I think you're smart enough to realize it), saying that a bus driver can be a killer too, even if that's irrelevant to my point since I was talking about the Mafia kills that would add to their factional one.... None of this is making the game advance. So before saying we're new age hoes, try to stop fluffing, maybe?
Taking Creeds as my 3rd scumread, before Damus and Slaol.
LOL right?
I've played the mod on and off since I registered back in 2012. Started joining in a couple FM games over the past year or so here. Been awhile since my last one, didn't like the people playing. Nothing personal it's just their play style didn't mesh with mine and I didn't have fun.
Oh btw I am from Australia so my most active period will usually be when yous are on the tail end of your night, sleeping or waking up. It's 3pm right now here for reference. Just thought I'd let yous know since this is the first time I am playing with the majority of you all.
I ain't aiding in back seat playing. You have 2 eyes and a brain Figure it out
Well, this game should be different for me since I always play hidden info to protect PRs... this setup, we know who the PRs are so I can play more openly.
1- I'd like you explain why you think I have a strong role in this setup and if you would consider the role to be equally strong if someone other than me had it.
2- I do not appreciate the bump in the night kill priority wifom list you did there.
DENIED! Not gonna let you try to get your scum buddy into the chat that easily. If I want the sheriff in my chat, it will be for my own reasons - not yours.
How the heck are you town reading me at this point? I haven't said anything that merits this.
<facepalms> you do realize that this is a game of lying and deceit right? He can tell you anything he wants and you wouldn't be able to know the difference - this question brings no benefit to the daychat.
aka: if I'm scum, you'll never know who I bussed.
Surrendering already Slaol? Man, didn't think you would give up just by not being on my team.
This is scummy thinking - I'll explain further below.
I agree - announcing to the mafia who they can hit for free because we told them who will be protected is terrible wifom - and if someone does die, people will just point figures at everyone. I can easily blame the doc for not healing the dead guy when he was suppose to when he did and someone out of his control happened like escort or bus driver... what am I suppose to take a 1/3 risk of lynching a town doc because of that? No! Not gonna give mafia an easy mislynch opportunity because of a flawed plan.
I don't believe you.
Creed, put your metaglasses on. Meta read Auckmid. And you'll know that this setup is 100% random alignments despite what MM said in the approval, in case you didn't get my hint at it earlier.
If Auckmid wasn't the host, I'd give you a little credit, but he is so.... no credit, your arguments holds zero value.
I wish, but I can confirm that most do not as they make the same mistakes over and over and over again.
Hope for the best, Plan for the worst.
Naz, you dying if slaol or creed is scum is 100% probable if they want you dead.
Huh? even I don't see what you are eluding to... but yes, please, do switch someone with the veteran, I dare you.
How dare you throw insults at me!
100% legit post, but your meta shows that you do that both as town and mafia so no credit for you from me. Good try though.
lol
LMAO... actually, yes - this is true.
I would totally let Slaol lynch me to get almost 100% clear and win the game for us. It's an easy path to victory when people don't think we would fight to the death as mafia/mafia.
The only thing I remember about FM15 is that I couldn't learn sith lightning.
nwot mialctfos I
Ok... now for this vigilante shooting night 1 stupidity discussion:
I can see this as mafia testing the waters to see if they can get a free kill early without being auto-lynched the next day. You see, as long as vigilante is STILL vigilante, he remains a high risk for town, town will likely lynch a vig if he is just a little suspicious just as we usually have the high priority of a disguiser BEFORE he disguises. However, if he already shot and becomes a citizen, then the risk is minimized and he doesn't have to play perfectly anymore since we are more likely to give him a "pass".
On the other hand, if a scum vig plays hidden most of the game, the mafia can pull off an endgame killing spree that we might not see coming as fast as they do.
Question: @Auckmid Are jailed people protected? Or can a jailed person be killed by vigilante/mafia kill - setup doesn't specify.
List of roles in order of town risk if they are scum:
1-Busdriver (no feedback - who really knows what happened)
2-Vigilante (can be near auto cleared by killing a scum - might have to argue with bus driver to get full clear)
3-Escort (potential to block heals/detection)
4-Mayor (only 1 extra vote - will be more concerned about this late game)
5-Grave Digger (depends on dead roles - will move up in the priority list if vig/BD/Escort/vet die early)
6-Jailer (can easily disable him by lynching people)
7-Doctor (can protect someone from vig multiple times - although will most likely be heavily questioned if vig had full town support into shooting)
8-Survivalist (can survive a town vig shot)
9-Networker (can easily lessen the risk by just not talking in the night chat if you really want to)
10-Vet (can't get a sheriff check on him - but can be found by lookout)
11/12-Lookout/Sheriff (can influence day chat for a 1 day mislynch - be careful if at lylo)
13-Bodyguard (if the vig shoots a scum and a bodyguard saves him... then it's still 1 scum dead)
That being said, I see this game turning into a If-Then-Else game very quickly day 2. Based on who dies, who gets checked, who gets caught in a lie and who survived. Until then, I know you guys are terrible at actual scumhunting, so most of your arguments were met on deaf ears on my end and you haven't swayed me at all (except for a few that talked about the vig that should have known better - not all).
ok was at post 492 when I started writting all this, time to see what else has been posted since.
Well, looks like it's only Auckmid that is here to talk so I'm off to bed. Thx for the quick host reply btw. Be back tomorrow..... sometime, maybe morning - maybe after midnight again.
Good night!
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