S-FM 203 Artificial Intelligence II

[Mesk514]

My pokes are nuclear arsenals.

Spruance is a known player to be bad with pressure.

you can go fuck yourself, i refuse to answer you... theres a mayor and a supposed sheriff and plenty others who i can talk to with out wanting to rip there heads off.

[ThePaladin]

you can go fuck yourself, i refuse to answer you... theres a mayor and a supposed sheriff and plenty others who i can talk to with out wanting to rip there heads off.

You do realize refusing to answer the question of why you scumread someone when we are 1 day away from mylo is nearly the scummies thing you can do.

This is just a general rule not even my own personal one.

[Mesk514]

You do realize refusing to answer the question of why you scumread someone when we are 1 day away from mylo is nearly the scummies thing you can do.

This is just a general rule not even my own personal one.

LICK MY FUCKING CLITORIS YOU SON OF A BITCH, GO PISS OFF SOMEONE ELSE

anybody else can ask me the same question and i will answer civilly and with respect but you don't deserve that.

[ThePaladin]

LICK MY FUCKING CLITORIS YOU SON OF A BITCH, GO PISS OFF SOMEONE ELSE

anybody else can ask me the same question and i will answer civilly and with respect but you don't deserve that.

I'd already have you voted if it wasn't for idiot townies + no sheriff lead yet.

[ThePaladin]

LICK MY FUCKING CLITORIS YOU SON OF A BITCH, GO PISS OFF SOMEONE ELSE

anybody else can ask me the same question and i will answer civilly and with respect but you don't deserve that.

how about you answer the question for everyone else but not for me

Someone can ask a question but you answer it to help someone else

[Mesk514]

I'd already have you voted if it wasn't for idiot townies + no sheriff lead yet.

I don't give a fuck what you would have done. I am pissed beyond fucking belief. Day 1 was troll central courtesy of you and RLVG. Yesterday was like Mafia Wars II, I feel so sad. There's no respect for anyone that wants to properly voice their opinion. That hammer should not have been done that early. It would have been nice to hear a claim from MattZed & more input from Eggy would have been nice.

But no, you're all inconsiderate fucks.

[ThePaladin]

Do we bother trying to figure out by flip associations if mafia didn't shoot n1 or if mesk was healed by Unknown?

So let's see here

RLVG(vig)
Paladin(Me)[any towny insert themselves here]
Carrot(mayor)


So at this point its 6v3

with at 50% chance to hit since for there are three people who shouldn't be lynched.


Spruance-Gyrlander-MattZed
Never Unlucky Mesk514 Firebringer.

[You could put mesk into the lurker group since he hasn't really made any read wallposts or even pokes with reasoning behind them or anything, unless I am forgetting them]

We can create about 2 major groups (lurkers/previous not poster)
Versus posters(albeit low posters compared to the higher ones)

I doubt that all 3 scum are in one of these groups unless they just managed to coordinate really really well to all lurk or post fairly low amounts.

Now here's the problem we have

I'm pretty sure both Gyrlander and Spruance are in there natural lurk meta, you guys really need to get a better meta.
While MattZed is victim to being a replacement of a 0-poster.

So it's hard to discern between these in my eyes since we have so little to go on.


Out of them, I would say Gyrlander is currently the best lynch but that's only because I know his meta the least out of the other two, and there isn't enough posts/interaction from MattZed for me to get any sort of hard read off of him (he kept responding to stuff from page1)

Now we move on to the other group.

Firebringer/Eggy? - hard town read.

A: In my experience I haven't seen a scum get replaced by asking, especially since it wasn't due to irl circumstances.
and that's in addition for firebringer actually townhunting and not doing any stupid stuff before the replacement so I'm going to cross him off the list.
--I don't believe this same logic can be applied to Calix since she just never posted

B:Mesk514 seemed a little too eager on the flip today in my eyes. He also hasn't really posted anyone yet. However we have had unicorn flips scum who was about equal in caliber minus the former.

C: Never unlucky
I want to say that this guy hasn't poked anyone on reasoning that wasn't already previously brought up,but I would have to relook through all his posts to confirm that.

So following that logic

Spruance-Gyrlander-MattZed

Mesk514-Never Unlucky


This is my reads list.

The darker more vibrant the red the more likely the person is to flip scum in my eyes.

Mattzed is very light red since he hasn't interacted in reference to current events and he replaced a player.

95% sure Mesk is scum due to this reasoning.

[ThePaladin]

Basically I don't think all scum are in the same group of the two listed above[ so not Spruance]

Unlucky is the only person to claim town investigative.[so not him]

Therefore

Mesk becomes only person left on list.

[Mesk514]

Basically I don't think all scum are in the same group of the two listed above[ so not Spruance]

Unlucky is the only person to claim town investigative.[so not him]

Therefore

Mesk becomes only person left on list.

I really wish I could ask you to put your soul on the line here. You suck. You are terrible. You are an idiot. Go chock on some dick.

[ThePaladin]

I also think this because Gyrlander basically conceded by not even trying with his claim and reasons for his actions.

This would mean the last scum was very obvious and he didn't see a possible way unless town gamethrew for them to win.

With Never_Unluck's claim of the only investigative and no one particularly hard-scum reading him, this didn't make much sense

But this did make sense in how scummy Mesk was[quite a few hard-scum read him](not actually contributing anything) and claiming cit very early and therefore not being able to do a gambit with claiming a tpr.
This makes a lot of sense.

[ThePaladin]

I really wish I could ask you to put your soul on the line here. You suck. You are terrible. You are an idiot. Go chock on some dick.

Please don't interrupt me when I'm wall-multi posting unless you have an actually critique. Thank you.

[ThePaladin]

So in my mind the scum reads are

Mesk>Spruance=Eggy>NeverUnlucky

[ThePaladin]

Looks like unlucky doesn't normally post till at least another 4 hours, Might just take a break till then.

[Mesk514]

Looks like unlucky doesn't normally post till at least another 4 hours, Might just take a break till then.

dude, go take a break and never come back please ffs. Never Unlucky can't be scum cause he's the only one that could be Jarvis you fucking moron, you're a fucking idiot and i'll be the one to say that NEVER UNLUCKY IS JARVIS


IT HAS TO BE SPRUANCE, MATTZED AGREED WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING I HAD TO SAY & ONE OF THOSE THINGS WAS THAT SPRUANCE WAS PROBABLY THE EXEC TARGET.... I ADMIT MY READS AND PUSHES WERE OFF BUT THIS IS TOO EASY MAN, IGNORE THE PALADIN AND PUSH SPRUANCE

[Mesk514]

everyone played like shit

eggy - citizen
paladin - citizen
carrot cake - mayor
rlvg - vigi
unknown - doc
mesk - citi
unicorn - citi
never unlucky - sheriff
mattzed
gyrlander
spruance

banana


GG

if you disagree you have down syndrome, just accept it.




and the only person i apologize to is

Spoiler : ... :

Never Unlucky, dude je suis vraiment désolé mais tabarnak, qu'est-ce que vous voulez me faire maintenant?

[ThePaladin]

[QUOTE=Mesk514;622948]dude, go take a break and never come back please ffs. Never Unlucky can't be scum cause he's the only one that could be Jarvis you fucking moron, you're a fucking idiot and i'll be the one to say that NEVER UNLUCKY IS JARVIS


IT HAS TO BE SPRUANCE, MATTZED AGREED WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING I HAD TO SAY & ONE OF THOSE THINGS WAS THAT SPRUANCE WAS PROBABLY THE EXEC TARGET.... I ADMIT MY READS AND PUSHES WERE OFF BUT THIS IS TOO EASY MAN, IGNORE THE PALADIN AND PUSH SPRUANCE[/QUOTE]




You do realize the exec target is required to be town correct?

Therefore you scum-reading him and thinking he was probably the exec target are contradictory.





Hi scum. I love it when my life is made easy.

[ThePaladin]

Whelp there's the game kids.
@Never Unlucky Give your feedback please. You better have checked Spruance or Mesk

[ThePaladin]

[QUOTE=ThePaladin;622950]

dude, go take a break and never come back please ffs. Never Unlucky can't be scum cause he's the only one that could be Jarvis you fucking moron, you're a fucking idiot and i'll be the one to say that NEVER UNLUCKY IS JARVIS


IT HAS TO BE SPRUANCE, MATTZED AGREED WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING I HAD TO SAY & ONE OF THOSE THINGS WAS THAT SPRUANCE WAS PROBABLY THE EXEC TARGET.... I ADMIT MY READS AND PUSHES WERE OFF BUT THIS IS TOO EASY MAN, IGNORE THE PALADIN AND PUSH SPRUANCE[/QUOTE]




You do realize the exec target is required to be town correct?

Therefore you scum-reading him and thinking he was probably the exec target are contradictory.





Hi scum. I love it when my life is made easy.

I also like you think that the literal flipped SCUM agreeing with you makes your reasoning you good.

Are we just giving up now?

Please just concede and save us the effort. You clearly are beginning to realize that you can't win.

[ThePaladin]

​Does mayor count as a TPR?

[ThePaladin]

​Does mayor count as a TPR?

@Orpz

[Eggy]

As far as im concerned carrot is the only confirmed town seeing as he revealed himself as mayor if im not mistaken. If mesk is right and mayor does not count as tpr then unlucky is also confirmed as town. This leaves the citizens claims as the potential scum. I have a slight town read on paladin because he was pushing the gyrlander lynch and he was also being pushed by mattzed. The only way he can be scum in my eyes is if it was an attempt at distancing himself from his scum team as much as possible which I really doubt. I can see mesk being fed up town and honestly if she was on mattzeds team I dont think matt would be sheeping her because that seems abit obvious. And for spruance I have not seen enough of his play to make a judgement. Im going to wait for unlucky to tell us what feedback he got from last night before I cast a vote but at this point I think anyone between paladin spruance and mesk can be the final scum. And paladin how are you "pseudo confirmed if you dont mind me asking?

[Eggy]

Anyway im going to sleep ill be back online in around 10 hours. Please dont hammer anyone until im back it would be really scummy to end the day early.

[Mesk514]

[QUOTE=ThePaladin;622950]

dude, go take a break and never come back please ffs. Never Unlucky can't be scum cause he's the only one that could be Jarvis you fucking moron, you're a fucking idiot and i'll be the one to say that NEVER UNLUCKY IS JARVIS


IT HAS TO BE SPRUANCE, MATTZED AGREED WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING I HAD TO SAY & ONE OF THOSE THINGS WAS THAT SPRUANCE WAS PROBABLY THE EXEC TARGET.... I ADMIT MY READS AND PUSHES WERE OFF BUT THIS IS TOO EASY MAN, IGNORE THE PALADIN AND PUSH SPRUANCE[/QUOTE]




You do realize the exec target is required to be town correct?

Therefore you scum-reading him and thinking he was probably the exec target are contradictory.





Hi scum. I love it when my life is made easy.

Man, do you ever fucking shut the fuck up? dude, i want a million fucking dollars, your first and all your children, your left testicle and tub of candy cane ice cream that they only sell at christmas once i flip not scum.


DO YOU NOT FUCKING GET THAT MATTZED AGREED WITH ME THAT SPRUANCE WAS THE EXEC TARGET? DO YOU NOT GET THE MATTZED WAS SCUM? SPRUANCE WAS NOT THE EXEC TARGET, SPRUANCE IS NOT TOWN, SPRUANCE IS SCUM

KILLME I DONT GIVE A FLYING FUCK BUT GET SPRUANCE AFTER


DUDE, THEPALADIN.... PISS THE FUCK OFF

[Never Unlucky]

So to clarify everyone roleclaimed cit besides Carrot(mayor) and NeverUnlucky(Sheriff)
@Never Unlucky please tell me you actually checked a decent target.

I checked MattZed, and he showed up as mafia of course. Last scum is Ultron, my role cannot detect him anyways. Eggy/Spruance/Mesk.

To all of you who think I'm scum: Look at the roles list. There is one TPR left. I am the only non-citizen/non-mayor claim alive. I am Jarvis. Plus, I'm the one who started the train on Gyrlander.

[Carrot Cake]

wit us surprise. gylander is scum. only if someone said that d2.
paladin being stupid again. sheriff is Janvis 100% unless someone want t counterclaim @Eggy @sprunce
paladin keep asking for sheriff check even though ultron immune.
paladin is trying to make people misubderatand the rules.

there are 2 confirmed town and 1semi-confirmed. [unknowns heal target n1]

@Mesk514 you with me or upset with me?

[Never Unlucky]

wit us surprise. gylander is scum. only if someone said that d2.
paladin being stupid again. sheriff is Janvis 100% unless someone want t counterclaim @Eggy @sprunce
paladin keep asking for sheriff check even though ultron immune.
paladin is trying to make people misubderatand the rules.

there are 2 confirmed town and 1semi-confirmed. [unknowns heal target n1]

@Mesk514 you with me or upset with me?

who r teh 2 comfirmid toawn and teh semee confirmid toawn.

[Carrot Cake]

who r teh 2 comfirmid toawn and teh semee confirmid toawn.

me. sheriff [u] n mesk

[Carrot Cake]

the game is easily won unless someone counter claims sheriff @Eggy @Spruance
you should counter claim if you are tpr. if not you two are going to be lynched consecutively.

[Never Unlucky]

Spruance claimed citizen already. Eggy might've too.

[Carrot Cake]

Spruance claimed citizen already. Eggy might've too.

could be a fake claim to protect themselves because they are javis.
I would completely understand that as I Scum read you 29x more than either of them.

[Never Unlucky]

could be a fake claim to protect themselves because they are javis.
I would completely understand that as I Scum read you 29x more than either of them.

They have 0 reasons not to counterclaim at this point. Only one of the 4 citizen claim is fake and it is Ultron.

[Carrot Cake]

they would claim if they are real trp.
because right now it's between 2 people the lynch. We have 2 lynches to use. and if one of them is tpr they should claim. then the lynch is between 3 people.

[Never Unlucky]

-vote Eggy

RLVG's last will stated that either Mesk or Eggy was the last scum. I'd add Spruance to the list. Between those three, I think Eggy's probably the scum.

[ThePaladin]

wit us surprise. gylander is scum. only if someone said that d2.
paladin being stupid again. sheriff is Janvis 100% unless someone want t counterclaim @Eggy @sprunce
paladin keep asking for sheriff check even though ultron immune.
paladin is trying to make people misubderatand the rules.

there are 2 confirmed town and 1semi-confirmed. [unknowns heal target n1]

@Mesk514 you with me or upset with me?

I forgot about the immune.

Im just tired at this point

[Never Unlucky]

@Spruance , @Carrot Cake , @ThePaladin , @Eggy : Cast your votes, we need to lynch someone today. Ultron will kill me at night, so we need to lynch one citizen claim to ease tomorrow's lynch or to end the game.

[Orpz]

​Does mayor count as a TPR?

Nope.

Daily reminder for everyone to be civil, as excessive personal attacks will not be tolerated.

[Eggy]

I dont understand how its between me and spruance? Didnt mesk and paladin claim citizen also? How are they anymore confirmed than us? I must be missing something. Im not going to place a vote just yet. I think the truth will come out if we give it time.

[Eggy]

@Never Unlucky why would you think im scum? Im just curious if you can tell me why I can most likely tell you why you are wrong and get you to place a vote on an actual potential scum. If we mislynch today and the next day we lose. We have 2 chances between 4 citizen claims which is pretty decent odds if we take our time to consider the facts and dont rush any votes.

[Eggy]

Any lynches* getting votes out is not a problem since there is no way the last scum would risk an early hammer seeing as how they would be lynched the next day

[Never Unlucky]

I dont understand how its between me and spruance? Didnt mesk and paladin claim citizen also? How are they anymore confirmed than us? I must be missing something. Im not going to place a vote just yet. I think the truth will come out if we give it time.

You and Mesk were on the Paladin train when Gyrlander was being lynched. MattZed has been pressuring Paladin since day 2, so unless MattZed was bussing his teammate, Paladin is town. As for Spruance, he's likely town even though he's lurked a lot.

Important point: Neither Mesk nor Eggy/Firebringer has ever voted a scum throughout the game.

[Eggy]

I doubt that mattzed was bussing also but at this point im not ruling anything out and neither should you. I cant speak for firebringer but if you dont understand why I was not eager to lynch gyrlander so quickly after only reading 10 pages of the thread where no one was acting particularly scummy in my eyes then I dont know what I can say to you. I was not saying that paladin was scum if you read back I just was not about to hammer someone so early when I had no reason to other than what you people were telling me. I repeat I am not a sheep. I had no option to vote scum. Ive been around for 1 day not including this one and if im not mistaken when I got on gyrlander was at L1 so idk how a replacement town would be expected to hammer.

[Eggy]

Why would firebringer get a replacement in the game where he is supposedly ultron? Doesnt really make sense to me. But again im not worried the truth will come out one way or another. Also from the games i've played (not that many) scum does not tend to buddy each other so obviously and are not scared to place votes on their teammates in order to ensure their own survival. If I was scum I would have hammered gyrlander because there was a very big chance id be the last one left the next day, seeing as gyrlander was going to be lynched no matter what(I was just trying to make the day last as long as possible, which is always pro town) and with RLVG being vigi and making his intentions on who he thought was scum(who he was going to shoot) very clear. If I was on their team I would definately be bussing since it would be the only logical option left. Can you tell me what I could possibly gain from not puting my vote and gyrlander if I was scum?

[Carrot Cake]

so wot you claim?

[Carrot Cake]

paladin was role blocked so he is also semi-confirmed.

[Carrot Cake]

fb replaces due to personal reasons but he was sleeping onto the unknown bandwagon.

[Eggy]

Im a citizen? I thought paladin claimed citizen also? Does it tell you that your role blocked if you dont have a night action? And again gyrlander could have admitted that as an attempt to distance himself from paladin which would be pretty smart. So I would not consider him semi-confirmed myself. I still find it unlikely that he is scum just because if he was it woyld probably be the smartest scum play ive ever seen since I started playing mafia, but im not going to rule it out because I cant know forsure.

[ThePaladin]

-vote Mesk514

[Never Unlucky]

-vote Mesk514

[Mesk514]

wit us surprise. gylander is scum. only if someone said that d2.
paladin being stupid again. sheriff is Janvis 100% unless someone want t counterclaim @Eggy @sprunce
paladin keep asking for sheriff check even though ultron immune.
paladin is trying to make people misubderatand the rules.

there are 2 confirmed town and 1semi-confirmed. [unknowns heal target n1]

@Mesk514 you with me or upset with me?

I'm with everyone here but the paladin. Everyone else deserves some sort of respect but him...
Lynch spruance and then Eggy please!!!

[Mesk514]

-vote Mesk514

Chnaged my mind, you get no respect either... go back to greater montreal