S-FM 203 Artificial Intelligence II

[Unknown1234]

You wouldn't claim a role that you can prove being but isn't, or that the other Vigilante would counterclaim.
Doctor on the other hand, can be multiple of, in setups with vigilantes.

So you are using my claim as part of your argument which is completely biased against me. What's your point?

[ThePaladin]

Scum know whether they shot or not and if it failed.

Town doesn't.

[Unknown1234]

I'm also going to point out the vote I have on him is completely irrelevant on his claim of doc.

2) Scum not shooting is a fairly common thing on n1.

3) @carrot Learn Wifom and learn that its easy to claim doc when it cannot be confirmed (if thats how orpz answerS) especially had scum planned to no kill or if they were prevented.

4)What if someone else is the real doc and healed someone

I've never seen a game where scum didn't shoot n1. I admit I haven't been here a while, but never ever seen this situation before.

Why are you limiting it to 1 Doctor? And unless you think RLVG/Firebringer are Doctor nobody cc'd

[Carrot Cake]

if you are assuming that scum decided to no kill then you are stupid.
its the least likely senario.
they can send any role to the faction kill. even if ultron is changing bodies.
lets head back to paladin post

a)scum where roleblocked
(only possible if ultron is not sent for the kill. instead sending one of the others.)
(unknown has publically claimed roleblocked but i town read him. no escort claims to roleblock someone else)

b)doctor healed someone
(this senario has been claimed by unknown)

c)scum decided to no kill.
(if this is the case. then it will be the scum most likling pushing anyone who is pro-other reasons because they know this one happened. and other reasons will help them out TPR just like RLVG has been doing so far)

[Unknown1234]

I didn't claim roleblocked.

[ThePaladin]

I've never seen a game where scum didn't shoot n1. I admit I haven't been here a while, but never ever seen this situation before.

Why are you limiting it to 1 Doctor? And unless you think RLVG/Firebringer are Doctor nobody cc'd

Mafia wars I and I think one other game I played in there was a no-shoot n1.

Why are you limiting it to 1 Doctor?
--Doesn't have to be, from a balance setup 1-2 is max. I meant more in the terms of only one doctor can heal(assuming different targets) so we shouldn't assume that" just because a guy claimed doc and there was no scumkill, therefore we should assume he healed."

[Unknown1234]

Mafia wars I and I think one other game I played in there was a no-shoot n1.

Why are you limiting it to 1 Doctor?
--Doesn't have to be, from a balance setup 1-2 is max. I meant more in the terms of only one doctor can heal(assuming different targets) so we shouldn't assume that" just because a guy claimed doc and there was no scumkill, therefore we should assume he healed."

Well of course not, but it's certainly an option.

I never read that setup, but if it had anything to do with the setup itself then that's not logical.

Why do you relate EVERYTHING to that game? You act like what happened in that game happens everywhere.

[Carrot Cake]

unknown paladin is town i can tell you that. he is just stubborn and tunneling.
where as rlvg came in at a different angle.

in other wrods rlvg is more likely scum than paladin and you should switch your vote.
since no one was bothered to even try to push againsy gyrlander.

[Unknown1234]

If ThePaladin is claiming Vig and nobody cc's, I will gladly change my vote.

-vote RLVG

[ThePaladin]

if you are assuming that scum decided to no kill then you are stupid.
its the least likely senario.
they can send any role to the faction kill. even if ultron is changing bodies.
lets head back to paladin post

a)scum where roleblocked
(only possible if ultron is not sent for the kill. instead sending one of the others.)
(unknown has publically claimed roleblocked but i town read him. no escort claims to roleblock someone else)

b)doctor healed someone
(this senario has been claimed by unknown)

c)scum decided to no kill.
(if this is the case. then it will be the scum most likling pushing anyone who is pro-other reasons because they know this one happened. and other reasons will help them out TPR just like RLVG has been doing so far)

Then why has it happened before with perfect-ably reasonable players.
Bur Regardless.

Why are we eliminating possibilities with no evidence.

A possibility is a possibility till proven otherwise regardless of likelihood.

Before you were born your odds of existing were 1 in 10^2,685,000

GUESS WHAT YOU ARE NOW HERE; WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TILL IT IS CONFIRMED.

[RLVG]

What if I told you that I somehow knew that Unknown visited Banana, who died, and Unknown claims Doctor and dismissed the claim of Vigilante?

[ThePaladin]

If ThePaladin is claiming Vig and nobody cc's, I will gladly change my vote.

-vote RLVG

I'm not hardclaiming anything L2R

[Carrot Cake]

If ThePaladin is claiming Vig and nobody cc's, I will gladly change my vote.

-vote RLVG

stop your uselss tunneling its the exact same thing paladin is doing to you and it gets us nowhere. paladin is town.

[ThePaladin]

What if I told you that I somehow knew that Unknown visited Banana, who died, and Unknown claims Doctor and dismissed the claim of Vigilante?

If you have a lead which guarantees lieing then say it, don't ask a question first.

[Unknown1234]

What if I told you that I somehow knew that Unknown visited Banana, who died, and Unknown claims Doctor and dismissed the claim of Vigilante?

But then you be lying when I flipped and Vig would automatically shoot you.

[Unknown1234]

I'm not hardclaiming anything L2R

Shut up Hypocrite, I read everything opposed to you.

[ThePaladin]

IF scum and vigi both shoot same person and one doctor heals, which shot will be healed and which one will go through?

[RLVG]

If you have a lead which guarantees lieing then say it, don't ask a question first.

For WIFOM purposes on an Enemy Witch, I won't claim the exact role of Detective and Lookout.

I can however state that the action of Unknown is contradictory.

[Unknown1234]

For WIFOM purposes on an Enemy Witch, I won't claim the exact role of Detective and Lookout.

I can however state that the action of Unknown is contradictory.

100% Vigi shoot RLVG after this.

[ThePaladin]

For WIFOM purposes on an Enemy Witch, I won't claim the exact role of Detective and Lookout.

I can however state that the action of Unknown is contradictory.

[ThePaladin]

100% Vigi shoot RLVG after this.

Do we actually have a dichotomy now LOL.

[RLVG]

100% Vigi shoot RLVG after this.

Why would the Vigi shoot me? Your so called "mislynch"?
I'm not scared lol.

[Unknown1234]

I just read the witch Rolecard, I'd know if I was witched.

[Unknown1234]

Why would the Vigi shoot me? Your so called "mislynch"?
I'm not scared lol.

Because if I didn't heal MESK in your eyes, you're lying. And don't pull any "I just wanted him lynched" crap afterwards.

[ThePaladin]

I just read the witch Rolecard, I'd know if I was witched.

He's saying to prevent him from being witched away or onto a scum depending on if he was lookout vs detective, so he would never see scum movements on kills.

[RLVG]

What I ment by the WIFOM on Witch is that the scum can't be sure what they want to do. Lookout and Detective have different information.

[ThePaladin]

We've like posted the same thing in sucession for about 5 times in this game rlvg....

[Unknown1234]

He's saying to prevent him from being witched away or onto a scum depending on if he was lookout vs detective, so he would never see scum movements on kills.

He just started a 1v1 because he is claiming I'm lying. I am not lying. Framer cannot frame my visits. There is no way we can both be town now that he's said this. He will need to be Vigi'd now because he claimed I'm lying.

[Unknown1234]

What if I told you that I somehow knew that Unknown visited Banana, who died, and Unknown claims Doctor and dismissed the claim of Vigilante?

I'm not ignoring this.

[ThePaladin]

He just started a 1v1 because he is claiming I'm lying. I am not lying. Framer cannot frame my visits. There is no way we can both be town now that he's said this. He will need to be Vigi'd now because he claimed I'm lying.

If you flip doctor, then I'm pretty sure you don't need to worry about vig shooting rlvg.

[Unknown1234]

If you flip doctor, then I'm pretty sure you don't need to worry about vig shooting rlvg.

Because you're both scum? Lovely my job here is done. (Sarcasm)

[ThePaladin]

I'm not ignoring this.

I'm also going to point out in almost every single game I've played it was the town who suggested or asserted he had a lead before saying it.

Dumb but thats what happens.

[Carrot Cake]

For WIFOM purposes on an Enemy Witch, I won't claim the exact role of Detective and Lookout.

I can however state that the action of Unknown is contradictory.

i cc this. i am sheriff and I got a mafia result on rlvg which is why I'm keen on pushing then.

[Unknown1234]

I'm also going to point out in almost every single game I've played it was the town who suggested or asserted he had a lead before saying it.

Dumb but thats what happens.

Well it's wrong here. Sorry.

[Unknown1234]

i cc this. i am sheriff and I got a mafia result on rlvg which is why I'm keen on pushing then.

BOOM MIND BLOWN.

[Unknown1234]

i cc this. i am sheriff and I got a mafia result on rlvg which is why I'm keen on pushing then.

I hope you're being serious, this just made my day LMAO.

[ThePaladin]

i cc this. i am sheriff and I got a mafia result on rlvg which is why I'm keen on pushing then.

HEY I BELIEVE YOU JUST STARTING PUSHING RLVG.

I BELIEVE YOU PUSHED GYRLANDER FIRST.


DICHOTOMIES EVERYWHERE.

ALSO IF WE HAVE ANY MORE INCRIMINATING LEADS COME OUT WITH THEM NOW FFS.

[RLVG]

i cc this. i am sheriff and I got a mafia result on rlvg which is why I'm keen on pushing then.

I'm changing my claim.

Vigilante.

Action : Shoot BananaCucho.

Last Will :

1. RLVG
2. BananaCucho
3. Firebringer
4. Unknown1234
5. Spruance
6. THE MAGNIFICENT AND TOTALLY ACTIVE Calix
7. ThePaladin
8. Lolunicorn12358
9. Gyrlander
10. NeverUnlucky
11. Thedougler
12. Mesk514

READS EVERYWHERE HOLY SHIT
I don't even feel like making my own reads you noobs.
So here you go, have a "A picture speaks a thousand words" instead.

I'm shooting BananaCucho. I want to pressure and lynch Unknown.
Remember that an Exe blends in as a Town to investigatives and can trick them into lynching a fellow town.

[Never Unlucky]

For WIFOM purposes on an Enemy Witch, I won't claim the exact role of Detective and Lookout.

I can however state that the action of Unknown is contradictory.

Up to date on the posts.

-vote Unknown1234

-BLINDLY defended Mesk.
-Hard-pushed for thedougler, for bad reasons. (Still much better than Carrot Cake's reasons, that guy's dumb.)
-Scumslipped D2
-Tried to start a too rushed lynch train on thepaladin d1. Paladin has proven it mathematically, a lynch wasn't going to happen unless me and RLVG changed our minds at the very last moment.
-Used the emotion strategy to avoid being lynched. Used emotions to defend against FB's vote [D1]. Used the "lynch me, you'll see I'm town" strategy in [D2].
------To me, these are some very scummy things to do as they're basically saying: "I have no more arguments, so I'll use charisma and/or pity to get through this."

This vote is subject to change. I am still considering the illuminati theory that TLVG and ThePaladin are scums and that they chose not to attack to hard-push on someone. I would also like to hear more from Spruance and Unicorn, I feel more confident that those two are scums. Still have a reserve on FB.

Also, why is Carrot Cake fucking acting like a referee in all of this conflict? I get that he thinks that they're both town (I shared this idea before), but he's got to give some sort of reasoning rather than refusing to repeat what he hasn't said. This is mafia, you're town or you're scum. The neutral is dead, pick a side, will you?

[RLVG]

I wanted to see if Unknown would change his claim based on what I had claimed, or if he had additional information he suddenly remembered.

[Carrot Cake]

I also nee sleep should of gone 2 hr ago

[Unknown1234]

Never Unlucky why did you just vote me after what has just happened?

[Unknown1234]

Never Unlucky, I expect much more.

[ThePaladin]

Hey I made a shogi board.

[RLVG]

So yes, I have no evidence against Unknown.
Carrot however has claimed Sheriff with a Guilty result on me.

This is very important.

Is Carrot trying to get me mislynched as scum?
Did I get framed?

This raises a lot of points.

[Unknown1234]

Is anyone going to CC Vig? Otherwise,

-vote Carrot Cake

[ThePaladin]

I'm changing my claim.

Vigilante.

....

[Spruance]

So... Carrot claimed sheriff and said RLVG was mafia, and then RLVG claimed vigilante and carrot said he was tired and had to go to sleep... wtf

[Unknown1234]

So yes, I have no evidence against Unknown.
Carrot however has claimed Sheriff with a Guilty result on me.

This is very important.

Is Carrot trying to get me mislynched as scum?
Did I get framed?

This raises a lot of points.

My point is why would anyone frame you opposed to someone else? Maybe it's possible, and if so I don't care, I'm keeping my vote on them for now.

[ThePaladin]

@Firebringer Do you CC vig?

A mention is just @Name right?