I am not taking this slot to LYLO. Like, no way lol. Besides... there's no reason for him to do what he's done as town. And one does not need to be an absolute imbecile to play poorly in one specific game of Mafia on a site one does not know :P (I've been there).
Why would you die tonight? o.O
also, YOU GOT THE COOL WHITE RING
Can you (either head) explain how you both went from scumreading me to townreading me?
This list is definitely an improvement over the one you made D1, but a few of the reads don't really feel like reads, i.e. the one on my slot. And the reads on some slots feel super vague when you definitely have the information necessary to flesh out the read: i.e Jelly, who you've been in a chat with. Can you expand on Jelly and me at the very least?
I am pretty sure Frinckles can do better than this as town, but on the other hand, I also am pretty sure he can do better than that as scum, so..... I don't really know. But it certainly doesn't look good lol. That + the Deathworlds lynch that everyone seems to have forgotten seems to = scummy Frinckles here.
lol no
im an investigative
me not dying would be insane when clearly there are two-to-three worlds fighting here all just because of what ewain's LW contained; a single resut could change things massively
only time that wouldn't be the case is if there was investigative immunity or something of the sort and for the mafia I would doubt that given they already have a janitor
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@Stealthbomber16 regarding "I've covered extensively why Clowns' reads list is terrible at this point, but this absolutely nothingburger of a read of Frinckles doesn't feel very genuine to me. I'd love to hear with other Hypixelians thought about Frinckles after day 1 and whether your views align with this." (I don't know how to only quote part of a post):
Post D1 I thought the tie vote from Frinckles was a bad look, looked more to me like Frinckles didn't care where the lynch ended. I thought it was pretty scummy but MM told me that this isn't something out of range of T!Frinckles and implied that the way to read this move was based on intent. I thought their reasons for voting were passable, even if I disagreed, but I think you make a good point regarding not mentioning the reads list, which Frinckles most likely has seen already. Still reading but if I don't see a Frinckles response to this post I'm going to request one.
Fruit vendor is a communicative role though?
I also second that @Bakura1 needs to reveal who their chat was with.
Just because I think you're scum and you happen to be on the receiving end doesn't mean I'm playing poorly. I admit I can't read you very well normally. I've never been able to but I know language. I'm the kind of composition and rhetoric. The way I got into FM was literally copying how better players typed/thought and then tweaking it.
I know how scum acts because I play like scum. That's my meta. You've tried deflecting it, burying it, projecting it and now you're down to gaslighting my ability to play. I like that, it's spicy but it doesn't work on me.
You have fooled most of this town, you will not fool me.
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Bolded is interesting to me, please quote where this was found if/where it was because I think MM is solidly town.
I also don't think Ewian's last will is fabricated, the messages that appear to be from my chat with MM are spot on, and his will reads like an inner monologue. His will clearly also wasn't updated during the later half of the day, so I find it unlikely that he would put fake messages in his will, especially if he can't die from a nightkill.
I think we should be putting more stock in Ewian's last will, honestly. We have 3 claimed chats on the first day. There's scum there.
Anyone who truly believes any role in a role madness game constitutes an alignment by default is either naive or scum. I don't care if you claim bodyguard, the hosts clearly made this game about communication enough that defaulting to assumptions on what alignment a role is in are probably useless.
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On the bright side, if they indeed are town, I very much think you are too now :P.
And again, I staunchly refuse to bring this to LYLO. We're never trusting them enough unless there's a literal cop check on them, and if such a thing does exist, we probably want it somewhere actually useful lol. Plus, all of this is irrelevant if they are actually just straight up scum.
...and now that I think about it before pressing "Post Quick Reply", I actually don't see scum!Bakura defending scum!Clowns like this. There's no reason to do that. Plus, you're saying it like someone who sees someone they know being suspected for reasons he deems wrong, which is genuine.
Welcome to the town block
...but clowns is still going to the chopping block
Someone in this thread made a good point.
@TheClowns please fullclaim.
Mmmm, my objective was not to gaslight you, although I can see why you have interpreted it that way lol. Sorry. I feel like I'm coming off as more brutal than I would like to these days ;-;.
Aside from this, though, is your point that you... are actively playing like scum, and that I should still townread you (and that I'm scum for... not doing so...? and supposedly having written something about smashing and destroying)? Or am I misunderstanding?
If you're town, you're only fooling yourself
And I'm starting to feel like you're genuine, although I know you have replicated that in the past as scum, so I have to /shrug for now, but hmmmmm.
I am a town mason. I can create a chat between myself and one other person that stays up day and night. After the hammer didn’t go through and roles stopped working, so did our chat.
I encourage and supporting that sort of brutality/gaslighting. Just trying to keep it pg-13.
Okay now this is just twisting my words.
There is only one person who will convince me to move off you and that's only if they say please. You must be stopped.
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@Ashoka Tano
its eod
sorry for not realizing earlier when I pinged jmw
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
The post:
There's no reason for scum!Bakura to defend scum!Clowns as they did here, because at this point, they are a teammate of little to no value at all. It's pretty clear they are getting lynched anyway, so why not just hop on and bus?
As for why I think it's positively towny from Bakura no matter what Clowns flips, I see Bakura trying to protect someone he knows and feels like is being wrongly read based on meta. This is rarely something you see from scum whiteknighting, and something very often seen from townies who find themselves in a situation where it applies.
what is the value in bussing lol
clowns flipping scum basically gives no benefit to anyone pushing them at this point since they were largely ignored for almost the entirety of D2
making the argument "oh they just decided to bus d3" would be very easy on almost anyone simply because of that
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
I may have not worded that clearly.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Yes, but there's a difference between "choosing not to bus because it's not worth it" and actively defending your screwed teammate when it clearly won't work, spending much time repeating it, etc. I just don't see it happening. It's not like Bakura is just saying "I'd rather not" and then shut up about it for the rest of the game.
The bolded is what I was looking for, nevermind. Oliver made a good point about this as the OP says private chats do not have natural day chat.
I was wondering if Clowns would claim that it was baked into their role, as if Clowns didn't mention it then it's almost guaranteed that Clowns/Jelly are scummates lying about a chat.
fmpov game gets largely decided this day considering we're probably like 1-2 yeets away from LYLO and there isn't a super-solid town-core (except like maybe you/me/jmw, but even then you + jmw are being directly challenged)
so I don't see much reason to not defend your scummates if they're being pushed
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-vote TheClowns
lol, Mason is when 2 people know one another roles, he doesn't even describe the role correctly. Furthermore if it stopped working that means there is "shots" where he can create it and when he cannot, no?
but I especially hate how he isn't pushing me
People are jumping through hoops to try and prove I’m scum
I mean... us not lynching Clowns today would be a massive misplay imo (again, we do NOT want to take this to LYLO, it would be horrible), and we seem to be heading towards that quite clearly? It seems thoroughly pointless for scum to defend Clowns in such a situation.
@TheClowns I don't know if you've seen this yet or not but I'd appreciate a response if you're able.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Mason
find me the sc2/hypixel mason rolecard to see if it matches what you have
penis
@Frinckles do you have any reason to suspect MM from being scum aside from "the message could maybe have come from MM"?
I think their play, the chat I've had, and what I know of their role all point to MM being town.