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Day 2 and everyone is alive this is so dang odd lol
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@Marshmallow Marshall @Loldebite ALL OF Town is waiting on your feedback
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PQRnHack said they invited us for a reason but their plan failed because PaoPan didn't make it (I thought PaoPan chose to decline, but Mike rightly pointed out that probably isn't possible and he just got jailed).
PQR basically spent the entirety of the chat very paranoid that Mike and I were both scum and that were were trying to fool them, going to kill them, etc. I obviously can't copy paste it here but it seems very genuine and not fakeable, so I think PQR's town. I talked a little bit about how Frinckle's vote on Pao at the last second is unaligned so they can't be W/W, Mike agreed it was a good look but didn't think it was 100% never aligned. I went to sleep afterward and Mike posted some of their reads in that chat, but other than that there wasn't anything much.
I can't say it's 100% certain, but Loldebite probably blocked me. That was the plan they were set on for most of D1 so it would make sense.
Depends on the placement of scum votes and how they presented their reads. If there were a Paopan v Gikkle T/T world, I'd imagine enough scum would have had to have backed themselves into a corner read wise such that they could not hammer one or the other without looking like they just did a huge flip flop and thus look suspicious. For example, all of Oberon/PQRn/Auwt would have looked really bad voting Paopan since they suspected me more. On the other hand, Frinckles, Jmw, MM, and Oliverz all either expressed suspicion on Paopan or TRs on me. Light, Loldebite, Mike, and Luona were all free to vote who they wanted.
So, for example, if the scum team in a T/T Paopan/Me world was Oberon/Auwt/MM/Oliverz (completely hypothetical, does not represent my actual opinions), 2 of the scum would be stuck on one wagon, and 2 on the other. They could not flip flop around to try and get a lynch.
However, if the scum team were, for example, Loldebite/Light/Luona/Mike, they could very easily have gotten a hammer on Paopan OR me. In fact, just 3 of those 4 in any combination likely could have gotten a hammer on both me and Paopan without much complaint. So wagonomics suggests, in the case of T/T Me/Paopan, that the pool of Loldebite/Light/Luona/Mike contains 2 scum or less, and it can't be a combination of Luona/Mike because they would have been able to hammer Paopan.
In a Paopan/Gikkle T/T world, the pool of Oberon/PQrn/Auwt/Frinckles/Jmw/MM/Oliverz contains 2 scum or more. The pool of Loldebite/Light/Luona/Mike contains 0-2 scum, never more. Luona/Mike aren't S/S in this world.
This is, of course, assuming scum were actively attempting to get a hammer in this world. The only reason I can think of that they wouldn't be is if Oberon is scum, but Oberon did not kill this hypothetical T!Paopan, so it is unlikely he is scum in this scenario.
A T/T Paopan/Me world relies on scum caring more about their appearances than getting a kill, so it depends which players are in the scum team, really.
This post is just to prove it's possible for me and Paopan to be T/T based on wagonomics. This isn't meant to be an in depth VCA. As for my own opinion, I find this whole scenario I suggested unlikely, as I think scum would have been able to justify voting out Paopan or me fairly easily, just based on the argument "I don't trust Oberon" or something like that. So them caring about their appearances in this case would require, most likely, a cowardly (for lack of a better word) scum team.
EVeryone here look at post 838 first post of the day. Trying to see his PoV why would he say that right off the bat????? AM i missing something??? or is it odd to anyone else?
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Frinkles you backed it up care to explaine how it is kinda sus I am missing something?
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I don't think that's what happened, but if it were- you'd have no reason not to shoot your secondary or tertiary targets because you wouldn't have to worry about reverting to villager.
Stop pretending to be stupid. Why did you select those 3? Do you know how lonely I was?
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It was in response to the lack of kills. But again, I have no idea what exactly Auwt was talking about. He painted a picture wherein his scumteam involved members of the Paopan train:
And again, he omitted Light and myself. I guess he built that scumteam based off of VCA and D1 reads.NotPaopan (7 [L-1]):
jmw, Gikkle, Loldebite, Light_Yagami, Marshmallow Marshall, Frinckles, oliverz144
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This is extremely difficult. I am not a pro player here, but I have to make an effort to figure out who the mafia are. We REALLY need to figure out why no kill occurred last night. Apart from this, I can identify 2 players sorta pocketing me. But I am not sure because maybe they just understand me or maybe they are mafia taking advantage. But i think all good players should QUESTION EVERYTHING. and when i do not see this, my red flag goes off.
@jmw convince me that Mike is not your scumbag partner
@Mike how it feel to be a scumbag? You like the chat last night?
@Oberon please advise what happened last night and the chat
@Gikkle who is your top vote today?
Uh I'm not too sure how you want me to do that, but Mike seems very tonally pure based on what he's posted, especially in our chat.
I think the messages he's posted there look like he's solving from a townie mindset, which is why I currently townread them.
We also mindmeld on a lot of things including MM deepwolf potential and you being very obviously town via your messages in our chat lol.
Jesus Christ Oberon's D1 and night actions make zero sense from any alignment's perspective.
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vigi claims did not shoot. so the only option here is doc healed or mafia didnt attack? did i get that right?
Ok you guys can stop pillow pushing and bussing, MM is here.
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I got a real mind-fuck D1 with your later commentary that really threw me for a loop. I have not recovered from it, this is something you would do as mafia to fuck with me. so have a beer.
So basically I'm just gonna lynch whoever loldebite tells me to.
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Assuming that's supposed to be a scum team... yes, I oppose it lol. From what you said next, it looks like this was from VCA, and I don't get it. I also don't get how putting me (doc) and loldebite (escort) in the same team makes sense. I also STILL don't get why the Gikkle wagon existed (not that he's towny, but ?????).
And I'm not sure why Paopan is still alive, both untouched by lynch and by @Oberon . Were you roleblocked?-vote NotPaopan