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I’m not voting out of Frinckles, Yoshida, Stellaria today.
If mafia has any brain cell I'm dying tonight though. Also I'm assuming if my target gets hit, I'm dying instead
Yoshida - Gunsmith
Frinckles - Bomb (note that he wanted to be jailed)
Loldebite - Caroler
Auwt - Tailor
Ikarus - Jailor
Actuallly, we should lim a scum pr, so Stellaria probably not the best idea unless anyone’s doubting this list.
@powerofdeath Are vests "auto" vests for the Chaos Executioner and does that protect them from shots during the day?
actually on a second thought, I would have given another gun to renegade today if it weren't for Ikarus roleblocking me. you should have kept jailing martin
where is the ice cream in this joint
Caroler - Forced to visit one person each night. If the person did no night action, it will listen to Caroler's Song. The song will name 3 people and at least one of the name are mafia. The names can be any alive players including the listener and the Caroler. If the person did a night action, they will ignore the song and get no feedback.
Gikkle outing the prs only makes sense if he wanted to help caroler and therefore jziler knew not to jail non pr. So I think we do have reason to trust Gikkle.
If Frinckles flips town then we eliminate loldebite and Nancy? If Frinckles is mafia then we get Stellaria? seems like a good PoE.
you can also vote me out today as a highly beneficial town elimination so that rest of town have less slots/pr to deal with.
where is the ice cream in this joint
or it is Ikarus/Ren and we are completely bamboozled. I am still a good elimination today.
where is the ice cream in this joint
where is the ice cream in this joint
Okay, hold on a sec. Gikkle flipping CE was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Obviously, Gikkle got the real carol. But we can't really prove for certain that his results were real, can we? I'm thinking Gikkle probably hand-picked at least two of his claimed results. And he was hard pushing me. Considering we know Ikarus and Deb were power roles, then I'm thinking he didn't push Deb because it wouldnt be convenient to do so and he didn't push Ikarus because he thought Ikarus was Mafia. I'm assuming he thought I was town
where is the ice cream in this joint
I got your name in my carol as well, so if it’s not you, then it has to be one of Varcron or Zenon but he didn’t retract anything he said when he outed carol and I don’t know why scum!Deb sends me a carol.
It’s obvious Gikkle wanted to help town or he wouldn’t out prs.
ftr Im fine still being under suspicion. But I don't think we should be treating me being in both carols as a red check, even if Gikkle's results weren't doctored
Oh. Okay. So loldebite rolled scum?
Hmm.. unlikely.
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I dont think deb is scum why do people keep thinking Im saying that???
@Stellaria , thoughts on this?
My thoughts on the post: I agree Frinckles is probably just scum. He's playing out of his mind if he's actually a town bomb but I don't think that's feasible. So I'm down to vote there actually
-vote Frinckles
Ikarus said he jailed Yoshida, and Yoshida confirmed it. That alone isn't enough to entirely sway me, but the fact Ikarus was voting for Gikkle so early yesterday makes me feel better about his slot. Like he really was town and just really thought Gikkle was full of shit.
But obviously, I know I'm not scum. So I think Gikkle's results were doctored to some degree. It's not like he knew who the scum were, so if he kept one name from his original list, it's not even like that name, whatever it was, was scum.
Actually, now that I'm thinking on it, maybe he got Deb in his original list, knew Deb was Caroler, and decided to put Deb on the doctored list just in case?
but there's really no point in arguing about whether it was doctored or not, I guess, since it's not something we can prove anymore
I guess if I'm ever to convince anyone that I'm town, I should probably start a case on Zenon or Vacron. I'll get to it.
but it's not something I'm very good at
Srsly, i might just do exactly that when im scum on this platform. Free ride till MYLO.
I'd say I am a little disappointed in Varcron and Zenon, if it weren't for the fact that I think at least one of them is just coasting.
I do feel a little better about Varcron (buster) slot because I read buster as town.
This is going to make me sound scummy as fuck and I am very well aware of this fact. But I am going to post all my thoughts/suspicions/frustrations here.
There is no doubt here that Yoshida is scum Gunsmith. His posts EoD and today make very little sense from Town POV and his jail chat log was extremely suspicious. I am not going to be changing my vote today. This slot is 100% mafia and if it's town I am going to eat my words and will accept any abuse that will incur (but tbh this slot basically revealed it themselves). Go back to all their 'read' posts and tell me they do not reeek TMI now that we know who has all the roles. I honestly thought yoshida was a bad CE and this is why I did not question Yoshida until EoD.
Stellaria's name has been in both carols 1)Gikkle and 2)Nancy. Anyone contesting or doubting loldebites Carol claim is auto push. But how confident are we in Gikkle telling the truth and Nancy telling the truth.
I'd say Gikkle had no reason to either help or ruin town game. I don't think he's the type to intentionally screw up town game just for the lols and more confusion. For this reason alone, I am inclined to believe and act on Gikkle's parting words to us. That means, loldebite and stellaria.
Nancy has been pretty towny except she's had moments where she was extremely uncertain. I was not very comfortable with her hesitation on day 3,4. If she was scum with loldebite and pushing Stellaria by faking the carol to include stellaria, then I applaud them because I wouldn't have looked at Nancy as my POE till MYLO situation.
So exactly why are town clearing Loldebite?
I would like Frinckles to give me a serious answer as to why he made that play on Gikkle. And because we are too obsessed with the Frinckles making such outrageous and blatantly scummy play, we are auto clearing loldebite as town. Frinckles did not want to be shot by renegade. Also he wanted me to jail him. I'm trying to figure out why he does not want to die because the whole play was completely suicidal. I don't understand.
I am NOT voting Frinckles today because I do not think his play is AI until he can ELI5 to me especially with Gikkle flipping CE. If Gikkle was town, then Frinckles 1000% has to be mafia. Why waste all that effort and put yourself on the chopping block to lynch CE when killing CE is the goal for mafia?
These are for certain.
Frinckles lied about being carol.
Gikkle said Frinckles is bomb.
Loldebite is carol who gave the songs to Gikkle and Nancy.
Frinckles and Loldebite cannot be t/t also not w/w because I think their pairing with other players make more sense than them bussing each other.
Unless you guys can prove it to me why mafia!Frinckles would pull a suicidal move to lynch a CE, not the actual carol or another PR, I am not going to be able to townclear loldebite. In a world where Frinckles THOUGHT he was doing some superman fancy play shit (in fact that was stupid if he thought it was the case) and he is town, then it makes loldebite and nancy as mafia partners. This take is further supported by the fact that Loldebite wanted to lynch Frinckles yesterday but could not make up her mind between Gikkle and Frinckles, and was VERY ADAMANT that Gikkle and Frinckles were t/w. Also it was loldebite and yoshida that both pressured Renegade to shoot either slot (CE with one vest down is just two nights away from killing CE). If frinkcles gets shot, then it's one town down or two towns down depending on if frinckles was a bomb from their POV. Luckilyl Ren shot the CE (i thought it was a fake gun) not the bomb. Also I know this last bit is a bit of outrageous suspicion, but loldebite easily followed frinckles unvoting Gikkle when Gikkle revealed he was CE. Why would town!loldebite unvote CE there (i know he knew it wasn't going to change anything). At the time of the vote, there were still few players that did not park their vote so if we managed to skip the day, then CE only has one more vest. Also when I voiced my frustration at Varcron/Zenon slot potentially being a mafia member just coating till MYLO, Debs was very quick to shut that idea down and bullied me to move on. This is not a very towny view IMO.
Now moving on to Stellaria. I absolutely have no clue why this slot has this undying obsession about me since day 2. What have I done to deserve such dedication to kill me?
Disclaimer - i know this post has alot of unpopular views that will upset some people and you should take it with a grain of salt, but you do need to understand that we are possibly wrong in our current world view. Just like we were about Auwt and Gikkle.
@ikarusdk , I’m town and it’s suicidal for scum!Lol to send bleeding obvtown!me a carol. Why do people keep doing things to get me paranoid? It’s really frustrating.