Right-wing liberalism vs Conservvatism
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    Re: Right-wing liberalism vs Conservvatism

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    Also saying Abraham Lincoln was racist has no weight. It was mid 1800's. Every man and his dog was probably racist.
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    Was waiting for when the appeasement from the north to keep the union together was going to be mentioned lol.
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    The Union was by no means morally superior. If you read the actual appeasements they tried to make you will see how cooked everyone in the USA was. Some of it can be argued as time wasting but the Corwin Amendment... lol
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    Sounds fairly standard as far as war time doctrines go but the actual implementation of it leaves a lot to be desired. The south did not recover for a very long time.
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    Sherman by no means is innocent, he pretty clearly sets himself up to be absolved of any possible perceived immorality while at the same time reaping the rewards if such immorality isn't perceived.
    Quick look over shows I am well aware of the immoralities of the North. But again, I am not here to argue the immoralities of the North when there are people in this thread trying to prop up the "state rights" argument over slavery.

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    Re: Right-wing liberalism vs Conservvatism

    From the link in previous posts

    Contemporary historians overwhelmingly agree that secession was motivated by slavery. There were numerous causes for secession, but preservation and expansion of slavery was easily the most important of them. The confusion may come from blending the causes of secession with the causes of the war, which were separate but related issues. (Lincoln entered a military conflict not to free the slaves but to put down a rebellion or, as he put it, to preserve the Union.)
    Even historians of that era overwhelmingly disagree with the rhetoric put out here.

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    Re: Right-wing liberalism vs Conservvatism

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    From the link in previous posts



    Even historians of that era overwhelmingly disagree with the rhetoric put out here.
    So, the quote there says that the Union fought to put down a rebellion. I do agree slavery was a contentious issue in the north but it was definitely nowhere near as important to them as it’s made out to be.

 

 

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