Oliver is lock town because he's made a number of posts this game that I just don't think a player as new as him would be able to make as wolf.
You are town because of all the reasons I said before, plus the big one being that your vote literally saved my slot, like if you didn't vote Frink then I die to the expected Frink cross-vote. So either:
1) You're just town
2) You're a wolf that wanted to save me over Frinckles
3) You're a wolf that just had no clue what was going on at EoD
4) You're a wolf that anticipated me noticing this and wanted to go for the galaxy brain pocket attempt in order to snow me
#2 and #3 just sound very unlikely, and like if it's #4 then well played, but I think you're just town, maybe the rest of my analysis on you is confbiased by this and isn't as good as I think it sounds, but it is what it is.
As I've said several times before, I think the wolves were just chilling on day 1 sitting off-wagon or on vanity wagons, just happy to watch the town implode. That's MM, Pao, SB16. And Renegade just has done nothing towny this game with super poopoo solving so far, lol.
How long did it take you to put that piece of art together? I wanna print it out and frame it, so colorful, it's like abstract art that is not Also if you are scum and pocketed me, then well done, but to be serious, I'd rather go with your lead than MM over there who never reconsidered me at all (and i know im town) and his dialogue with you today was garbo especially when I asked him why his vote wasnt on you and this super-aggressive confident MM suddenly complied, that was weak as hell.
Anyways back to main points. I find your chart useful. MM et al. are painting the narrative (counter to yours, scum on/off wagon) that scum interfered to avoid lynching me/PQR. So hey, guess who! GUILLO! is one who switched off of me (to you, Lag) to bring me down from 3 votes to 2. Therefore Guillo is scum and didnt like the direction the votes were going mwuahaha ;)
What is also telling is that Frinck votes from me, oliver, and Voss stuck around for a long time (can you add the timeframes in 1st column so i know the time units? like hours or 2 hour chunks). So there really wasnt any massive shift or switch. Just a late straggler in Gikkle to add a vote (and a short blip from Rene).
Am I reading/analyzing this correctly?
MM/SB16/Voss/Paopan sussy. I include Voss there only because I always imagined that one of congressmen is a scumbag, and it sounds like (but is not yet verified) Voss is the 3rd CMAN. Oliver is hard to read, but he did pass my tests on Chatzy and frankly he had no strong motivation to unvote me when I claimed apart from possibly getting spooked by Mayor over the number of votes on me D2.
BTW @Lag why is oliver Town in your view? Why can't he be scum? "Putting it all together, Gikkle is town, topped only by oliver who is obv town."
Not that I want to rely even heavier on a person who has me in the pocket (Lag), but on the other side of the coin, when Lag is town, it is not bad to unite our forces and thoughts so it's a 2-way street (one goes to hell, the other - to victory).
It's not regular time units for the chart, I just added a row every time there was a vote change, EoD saw a ton of vote changes so the bottom third of the chart is much less time than the middle third for example. Normalizing it is way too much for in excel lol, I did it by hand, took around idk 20 minutes? Going through each page and ctrl+f "-vote"
And yes, I find the narrative that scum pulled a switch to save you to be just wrong and detrimental to solving this game.
I feel like I was getting a better handle on MM's slot, but unfortunately he disappeared before I got the chance to talk to him more. I could see a town~MM world, but it means his play today is just hugely misguided, which is very uncharacteristic for MM who is usually very accurate and obv-town
I have to tread carefully, since you have me in the pocket. But I said it early D2 that I expect mafia to frame me today (due to the Frinckles mislynch) and it was laughed off as mastermind ideas and exactly what I/PQR did when I was scum in a past life. And look at how the early D2 went with all the heat on me. What a shocker!
And I cannot convince MM (who may very well be scum and needs no convincing anyways) but I said it multiple times before, what motivation does mafia have for getting too engaged in relocating lynch from town_A to town_B? Granted, MM and others cant be sure I'm town, but I know I'm town (deja vu to your own arguments with MM, knowing our alignment helps us build our own knowledge base and reads that other 11 dont have). So it's natural for me to resonate more with someone who is closer to my views as opposed to an overly confident bully who is has his vote stuck on me and doesnt bother to reconsider their hypothesis (which i know to be false) or make backup plans.
OK the latter part is actually good to know because my only worry with him is that he pocketed me in the Chatzy thing we have as congressmen. But there is more evidence to conclude he is town: he unvoted me real quick when I revealed as CMAN and shared chat information, he passed my 2 tests by responding naturally within seconds in Chatzy. Just felt very natural to me. He also said we had constructive discussions and some lolde's over there complained that it should be shared out in the open. It is all relative, I think oliver oversold me by saying we had constructive stuff. I cannot copy paste but we had some debates of mafia Medic (see oliver's "Lulz" comment based on when I said that host could have done it for the lulz, useless medic for mafia, making it hard for town to lynch such a claim). At one point, coupled with his views on Judge/Governor, we were kinda suspecting Mayor, but this has since been proven a fallacy in our reasoning. Most of the stuff has since been discussed in the thread, so it's not like there is much secret stuff out of chatzy not yet shared. The one thing I dont wanna share as i find it unprofessional is a lead on a particular city, apparently a location popped up on the 3rd congressman, so we either know where he is located or which city's VPN he connected to But I aint gonna fish for that info as it is not in the spirit of the game.
1000+ within the last 24 hours. Just... wow.
I'll check the other FM game first.
You are the top poster yet you are at this level of questioning? Are you just post farming?
I already said on Day 1 that I will be inactive till the end of the week due to work reasons.
I'm the Medic. I CC this
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Ooooof so we have Pao vs Lag thunder medic?
I tried to read. But I'm too tired to think.
I'll clock out for today.
FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
FM XXI: USA (Escort)
FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)
@PQRnHack plz
FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
FM XXI: USA (Escort)
FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)
FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
FM XXI: USA (Escort)
FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)
Strange language you are using there. I was being genuine: it is a reasonable request for me to ask that you finish the roleclaim, as only YOU have no claimed yet. In any event here is the lie (or at least a failure on facts, i said it later that im not sure if legit intended or not, i even have my own hypothesis on this but lolde ignores me so whatever) in red color. Lolde never really bothered to give 2 shits about it either, since I did reveal it myself as no one else knew the answer.
And my later statements since no one else does my homework for me.
@Voss i will add this as well because it really upset me that Lodle was spewing arguments without double checking his own work. In red I put the part that I wanted to voice firmly.
Though again, I feel like Lag is the SA and the vote on themselves as a diversion.
What is your reasoning for why it is stupid as fuck? And please do not abuse your Mayor privileges by stating what will or will not happen. There are other people around who work in unison. A smart town mayor will listen to his people and act with his or her people. Let's not enter dictatorship territory, capish?
So the lie is not about your reasoning for voting Frinckles. It's about when you voted him, and if you changed your vote.
First off, your quoted posts here do not actually disprove loldebite. What would have been the correct posts to pull were the posts with your votes throughout the day. That being said, I do think I recall you voting for other people, so yeah this is technically a lie.
But based off the posts I pulled, it really seems like you mainly commented on Frinckles for the majority of your posts. The other posts were to respond to Paopan (fluff) which Guillo called you out about, and maybe something about Lag/oliver? Oh and being really defensive with 2 votes on you.
Point being, while you may not have been on Frinckles for 46 hours of the day, you did tunnel just on him for the majority of the posts, so I'd fault loldebite a lot less than your actual reaction to it was. If you had a little more content about other interactions, your response might have been justified.
Also, the fact that you posted so many little posts about this doesn't make me look at your slot as favorably as in D1. I just get this really defensive vibe from when loldebite called you out on something. Like, my time was wasted trying to find your other justification for voting frinckles. But it was about when you voted and who else you voted. That would have been an easier ISO hunt. And super easy for you with only 10 pages of posts.
I'd probably vote you, but I'm not voting anyone until nearer to EoD, and until I read d2.
FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
FM XXI: USA (Escort)
FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)
@Voss why are you not claiming your role?
Just typed 6 lines of text but ima delete this. @Loldebite tell me how you made the mistake of claiming that I voted Frinckles 2 hours in.
On a more serious note, Voss was my top town read D1 and some MM peoples over there postulated that we are scummates and it is not out of my wide scum range for me scum~PQR to put scum~Voss partner into my top townread, which is complete garbage, so my vote on MM is solid. I dont remember having prior games with Voss, but there has been almost nothing scummy from his slot.
There exists precisely 1 factor which worries me about Voss: I have a strong belief that 1 of 3 congressmen is mafia. And if Voss is the 3rd congressman (basically 99% now with Pao and you trolling medic/attorney shit), then this leaves Voss and Oliver. But I tested Oliver and he passed with flying colors.
So for this reason I stick to MM and figure out oli/voss in another timeline.
If I take this literally, it seems like you want to know what my reads were at #562, and why I changed them from this post
I'm going to actually take it to mean, in day 2, give me a better reads progression on how your list changes as you read day 2. I think this'll be more useful, and give me less busy work, as I only have so much time to play this game per day.
@ me if you actually want me to do the literal request, as I'll stop being so thorough when I read day 2 and switch back to the homework you gave me.
@Gikkle
FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
FM XXI: USA (Escort)
FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)