if you do not do the full version of this political quiz and post the results, you have no balls

[BananaCucho]

Atheism requires belief though. Nobody knows whether God exists or not.

It doesnt. Its disbelief or lack of belief in a god/gods. There's no faith involved in atheism.

[secondpassing]

It doesnt. Its disbelief or lack of belief in a god/gods. There's no faith involved in atheism.

There's no faith in atheism, but atheists must believe god doesn't exist. I think the a/gnostic naz is referring to are those who neither believe god exists or not, which would act the most amiable to the most amount of people.

[naz]

There's no faith in atheism, but atheists must believe god doesn't exist. I think the a/gnostic naz is referring to are those who neither believe god exists or not, which would act the most amiable to the most amount of people.

Ya like the first definition of faith is "complete trust or confidence in someone or something" & atheism is believing God DOESNT exist at all right? So its a faith in something

[SuperJack]

Ya like the first definition of faith is "complete trust or confidence in someone or something" & atheism is believing God DOESNT exist at all right? So its a faith in something

Wrong.

If you believe there is no god. You are an Agnostic.

If you have a lack of beliefs in anything then you are an Atheist.

They are very different.

Just like how not collecting stamps isn't a hobby.

[naz]

Wrong.

If you believe there is no god. You are an Agnostic.

If you have a lack of beliefs in anything then you are an Atheist.

They are very different.

Just like how not collecting stamps isn't a hobby.

oooooooo ok I'm starting to get it now uwu


gracias dad

[BananaCucho]

You guys still aren't getting it.

Again, atheism is not a belief in anything. It's a rejection of a belief in any gods. Let's say that human beings exist, but none of them believe in any gods. Religion doesn't exist. Therefore, everyone in this scenario would be atheist. There's nothing religious about that! None of them believe in god/s. It's really that simple.

Now, someone decides to introduce religion into the mix. He starts preaching "the word of god". There are some people who follow him/her and become religious. The rest reject the teachings and say "that's nonsense, I don't believe it". Now all of a sudden those people went from non-religious to religious? For following the "religion of atheism"?

There's no belief set to atheism. There's no creed. There's no holy works of atheism. Because it's not a belief system, it's not anything. It's disbelief/rejection of any religious teachings in a supreme being. That's not religion.

Sure, you may have groups that can form, or people can try to "convert" people to atheism, but there's literally nobody asking them to do that or any expectation to do that. Because it's not a religion, there's no book of atheism that says "destroy other people's faith in god and you'll be rewarded with x, y, z" - atheism isn't a central or big part of my life, it doesn't dictate my decisions. The only reason the label exists is because of religion.

I don't bear my testimony to people that "I know without a shadow of a doubt that god doesn't exist" - as Galeon said nobody can know that or not lol. There's nothing religious about atheism.

[Ganelon]

It doesnt. Its disbelief or lack of belief in a god/gods. There's no faith involved in atheism.

lack of belief would agnosticism. You have to believe that God doesn’t exist, you can’t know that. What you described is not caring if god exists.

[BananaCucho]

lack of belief would agnosticism. You have to believe that God doesn’t exist, you can’t know that. What you described is not caring if god exists.

Again, wrong. Agnosticism is that the existence of god is unknown - IT IS NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE TO ATHEISM

You can be an agnostic atheist. Or a gnostic atheist.

smh.