Remove -prefer -blacklist, mafia2 vest hogging up all the "fun" roles

[Renegade]

Shouldn't roles be rolled first and then assigned based on prefer/blacklist? Don't you think it is fucked up that prefer/blacklist affects what roles are in the game?

[Frinckles]

Shouldn't roles be rolled first and then assigned based on prefer/blacklist? Don't you think it is fucked up that prefer/blacklist affects what roles are in the game?

Monitoring this thread, but roles are generated before prefer.

You cannot -prefer cult to invoke cult 100% of the time if it has a 0.001% to spawn.

[Renegade]

Monitoring this thread, but roles are generated before prefer.

You cannot -prefer cult to invoke cult 100% of the time if it has a 0.001% to spawn.

That's good, that's what I originally thought.

But it introduces another problem, which is that if I prefer a role and I don't get it, I can reasonably assume with high probability that the role isn't in the game.

Take for example a judge/crier question. Say I ended up rolling town but preferred judge, unless someone else preferred judge, the guy speaking at night is crier.

It gives veteran players WAY TOO MUCH INFORMATION from outside the game itself.

[OzyWho]

That's good, that's what I originally thought.

But it introduces another problem, which is that if I prefer a role and I don't get it, I can reasonably assume with high probability that the role isn't in the game.

Take for example a judge/crier question. Say I ended up rolling town but preferred judge, unless someone else preferred judge, the guy speaking at night is crier.

It gives veteran players WAY TOO MUCH INFORMATION from outside the game itself.

Bruh, I remember someone preferring survivor and then calling out the survivor claims.

[DJarJar]

That's good, that's what I originally thought.

But it introduces another problem, which is that if I prefer a role and I don't get it, I can reasonably assume with high probability that the role isn't in the game.

Take for example a judge/crier question. Say I ended up rolling town but preferred judge, unless someone else preferred judge, the guy speaking at night is crier.

It gives veteran players WAY TOO MUCH INFORMATION from outside the game itself.

No you just don’t get how it works, maybe if Frinckles copy pasted the code it would be more clear. Prefer is a fairly weak thing, blacklist is far stronger