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    Beguiler should be allowed to safely beguile to Vet wihout dying.

    There has been roles that can safely "nest" inside the Veteran like Lookout and that can safely visit the veteran like Witch, they come visit him then come out of his alert unscathed.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gS7...ew?usp=sharing
    (sorry, default attachment manager is not working at all right now so i had to use google drive to share the replay)
    The replay attached here serves as a fine example. Witch fed an executioner to veteran, and lives. Lookout could watch over the veteran and live.

    So how come the beguiler/deceiver, when he visits the veteran, successfully redirects visitors to the vet (exemplified by the Oracle in the replay being beguiled to read me the beguiler as the vet I made him visit) at the cost of himself? I think beguiler should be able to walk out of beguiling to a veteran unscathed. It provides a vulnerability to veteran, especially one that instantly confirms themselves to the town and takes leadership, and allows mafia/triad to have another counterplay option against veteran besides "wait until we gain majority" that won't have a chance of backfiring on mafia. Also to keep it consistent with other roles such as Lookout and Witch, and to make Beguiler/Deceiver a more approachable role for most as it gives a "jumping off" point to understand the role better, something that I think is lacking right now with the role specifically.
    Last edited by Grakylan; July 21st, 2022 at 11:36 PM.
    https://imgur.com/a/NqMwElZ fuck it heres all the sc2mafia pics i would have put in the sig

 

 

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