S-FM 340: Election Day 2.0

[oliverz144]

So:

Town:
MM

Not-Town:
Mizery, oliver

Two town among:
Banana, Auwt, PQ, Wrath

thats still trash lag
yk im town

[Auwt]

Night 1 Guesses:
1) Agent, Interceptor
2) Lag targeted by Illuminati
3) Reagan
4) 8 votes
5) Third Party is Gus Hall
6) Bradland is Illuminati

Night 2 Guesses:
1) Agent, Shadow
2) MM targeted by Illuminati
3) Carter
4) 9 votes
5) Third Party is God
6) PQ is Illuminati

Illuminati consists of:
Interceptor, Shadow, Agent

Illuminati wishes to elect:
Jimmy Carter

Since I'm the conspiracy theorist, and have asked about this already, the answer is it doesn't have to be in the same night, once a clue is solved, it remains solved - but I don't get notified which ones are solved.

Great.
But then may I ask how are you so sure of the Illuminati's goto President.

[oliverz144]

You're not CCing PQ which means you're not the Fanatic. Ceko completely spewed oliver as not illuminati, which means he's the radical. And you're not claiming which makes you not town.

sure, lag. where does the confidence come from?

[Auwt]

Night 1 Guesses:
1) Agent, Interceptor
2) Lag targeted by Illuminati
3) Reagan
4) 8 votes
5) Third Party is Gus Hall
6) Bradland is Illuminati

Night 2 Guesses:
1) Agent, Shadow
2) MM targeted by Illuminati
3) Carter
4) 9 votes
5) Third Party is God
6) PQ is Illuminati

Illuminati consists of:
Interceptor, Shadow, Agent

Illuminati wishes to elect:
Jimmy Carter

Because I cracked the code it means at most 1 of those 6 things is wrong.

#1 and #3 were obviously correct
MM claimed roleblocked, so #2 is obviously correct

Meaning at least two of the following facts are true:
1) 8 votes were successfully cast on night 1 or 9 votes were successfully cast on night 2
2) The third party is NOT the Unity Party
3) PQ is Illuminati

Don't get me wrong, I just want to make sure we are blindly going the opposite direction.

Night 1 Guesses:
1) Agent, Interceptor (T : That seems true with the information we have as of today)
2) Lag targeted by Illuminati (? unclear)
3) Reagan (T/F with one of the #3 being T)
4) 8 votes (? unclear)
5) Third Party is Gus Hall (? unclear)
6) Bradland is Illuminati (F : Bradland flipped Town)

Above we have at best 4 correct answers, with only 1 confirmed

Night 2 Guesses:
1) Agent, Shadow (This fact does not matter since #1 is proved to be True)
2) MM targeted by Illuminati (T : Confirmed by MM himself)
3) Carter (T/F with one of the #3 being T)
4) 9 votes (? unclear)
5) Third Party is God (? unclear)
6) PQ is Illuminati (? unclear)

So at least within the two nights you've got a 5 cumulative answers correct.

From the above, what we know for sure is :

(1) Agent Interceptor is in the game.
(2) MM has been targeted by a member of the Illuminati.
(3) The Illuminatis want to elect someone among Reagan/Carter (which is basically useless)


What does that mean :

At least two of the below (if not three, I'm not sure) must be correct :

(4a) There was a total of 8 votes casted at the end of N1.
(4b) There was a total of 9 votes casted at the end of N2.
(5a) Third Party President is Gus Hall.
(5b) Third Party President is God.
(6a) PQ is Illuminati

[Auwt]

Don't get me wrong, I just want to make sure we are NOT blindly going the opposite direction.

And don't get me wrong, that is not a slip, that is phone.

[Auwt]

There's only one voter left in the setup, do you claim the voter slot?

Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Voter

With Hidden Town being able to roll a Voter.

[Auwt]

For me it's between Mizery and Banana, or even both.
With the granted info that MM is Sheriff,
I am a Voter and there is only one town spot left.

[Auwt]

Well, I am traumatized by Lag once again and am going off for this reason :P. Also, @Mizery @WrathCyber @oliverz144 @BananaCucho you all ought to claim. PQ basically claimed scum at this point, so there is no point in asking him to claim again.

If you hammer early again I will bite your toes in my dreams tonight

Neat I don't need to claim !
Wait I already did.

[Auwt]

I will go ahead and share my LW. In return, I would appreciate some love.

Last will: Collusion! N1 I voted Republican and snuck a vote onto 3P, and total tally on D2 was reported to be 2 for Democrat, 3 for Republican, 5 for 3P. It seems that Illuminati either chose to not put all votes on their candidate or they (or my Republican vote, for that matter) were manipulated by one of: Very Angry Person (but SB16 was lynched D1 unless 2nd HiddenT is same role), Pamphlet Distributor, Unity Party Spokesman, Russian Spy, Messenger of God. I actually thought Ceko was (Corrupt) Ballot Counter as 3 for Republican was correct. Provided that my Republican vote went through and given that MM(Political Scientist) also voted Republican, it appears that Illuminati's candidate may be Democrat.

You are out of my vote pool.

[Auwt]

I'm just wondering...
If MM was roleblocked, why was he not killed?
The Consort rolecard clearly state that the roleblocked guy cannot vote, which is basically a free shot for Mafia's KP if I did correctly understand the rolecard?
Are we even sure at this point to have a russian spy?
Like the night with 2 kills could have just been ceko's shot alongside another kp from another Illuminati.

[oliverz144]

I'm really fucking tired. I don't know if I'll catch up tonight. Plus I'm a bit high lol

I'm a voter btw.

there are 2 voters in game.
1 dum already flipped.
2nd one is me.
ergo: you are NOT voter.

-vote bananacucho

[oliverz144]

Did anyone CC

panicking altough you know perfectly well you claimed that first.

[oliverz144]

I think I can try to catch up around noon tomorrow when I put my 3 year old to nap

ate+"i totally didnt read up yet"
incredible how you went from t to s in 2h

[oliverz144]

awkward outing moment when you list three people as town and none of them are MM

hmm yeah i forgot abt mm tbh

[oliverz144]

auwt...

[oliverz144]

-vote mizery

scum.
looks like auwt, banana are hidden. mm is worker. me is voter.

[oliverz144]

scum lurkers, come out of your hideout! be brave enough to face your death!

[Auwt]

-vote mizery

scum.
looks like auwt, banana are hidden. mm is worker. me is voter.

Down to follow that.
What's your position on Wrath?

[Lumi]

Claims:
Banana: Voter
oliver: Voter
Auwt: Voter

Wrath: No claim
Mizery: No claim


Confirmed:
Lag: Conspiracy Theorist
MM: TPR
PQ: Fanatic


Spewed not-illuminati:
oliver, Banana

2 Illuminati among:
Auwt, oliver, Wrath

[Lumi]

Auwt + Wrath are illuminati

[Lumi]

-vote mizery

scum.
looks like auwt, banana are hidden. mm is worker. me is voter.

Hey oliver, don't vote mizery, you should vote Wrath!

[Lumi]

I am not excluding your first option, that's why I am having a bad time really taking a stance in your "fight" against SB.
From my perspective you are a 3P, and I cannot find much about Wrath's towniness, so yeah, I find it possible.

Also it seems there are three neutrals in this game as far as I am aware (Conspiracy Theorist, Fanatic, Political Radical).
Are you already excluding yourself, trying to seek the other two ?

This looks like of like Auwt TMIing

He assumes I'm 3p rather than Illuminati.

And his justification for it was later based on Mike's "trying too hard to look towny" thing from later, but that kind of play could just as easily be from Illuminati rather than 3p.

He gives basically no justification to support why he thinks I can't be Illuminati. Maybe because he knows that's not the case because he is Illuminati?

[Lumi]

Claims:
Banana: Voter
oliver: Voter
Auwt: Voter

Wrath: No claim
Mizery: No claim


Confirmed:
Lag: Conspiracy Theorist
MM: TPR
PQ: Fanatic


Spewed not-illuminati:
oliver, Banana

2 Illuminati among:
Auwt, oliver, Wrath

This should say 2 illuminati among Auwt, Mizery, Wrath

I just woke up, Mizery could be Illuminati too, but I think Wrath spewed her as not-Illuminati, and the way Auwt seems unphased by Wrath attempted to CC me outs him and Wrath as teammates

[Lumi]

@Auwt

Why did you ignore Wrath's attempt to CC me?

[oliverz144]

Down to follow that.
What's your position on Wrath?

given his claim shenanigan ~6h ago, ill.
he had strange interaction with illwei, i cant read into it rly.

[oliverz144]

hmm lmeme think

[Lumi]

When oliver avoids talking to me, it's obvious he's not town.

He's avoiding me this game, so...

[BananaCucho]

I got a few minutes this morning if anyone is around

Since it looks like there's no illuminati between lag/porno the next one on my list is wrath

-vote wrathcyber

[Lumi]

I got a few minutes this morning if anyone is around

Since it looks like there's no illuminati between lag/porno the next one on my list is wrath

-vote wrathcyber

Who do you think is Illuminati among:
oliver, Auwt, Wrath, Mizery

[BananaCucho]

I have no clue who the third teammate is between the rest

Treecko
Wrath
???

But I don't think it matters as much, once we knock wrath out. Then 3p is the biggest concern and I have no idea who that is. But the lunch pool is getting smaller anyway

[BananaCucho]

Who do you think is Illuminati among:
oliver, Auwt, Wrath, Mizery

No idea lol

[BananaCucho]

there are 2 voters in game.
1 dum already flipped.
2nd one is me.
ergo: you are NOT voter.

-vote bananacucho

lol

[BananaCucho]

Claims:
Banana: Voter
oliver: Voter
Auwt: Voter

Wrath: No claim
Mizery: No claim


Confirmed:
Lag: Conspiracy Theorist
MM: TPR
PQ: Fanatic


Spewed not-illuminati:
oliver, Banana

2 Illuminati among:
Auwt, oliver, Wrath

Yeah I think game is pretty much solved, we take down wrath today and then tomorrow lunch in me/Oliver/Bloo/auwt bucket and we're very likely to hit either illuminati or 3p

[BananaCucho]

Kids soccer, I'll see you guys later

[oliverz144]

When oliver avoids talking to me, it's obvious he's not town.

He's avoiding me this game, so...

haha. yeah **I** TOTALLY avoid talking with you. I. TOTALLY

[oliverz144]

LAG, YOU ARE SCUM SINCE SOD1
YOU CLAIMED FUCKING 3P
AND YET YOU TRY TO FUCKING SCUMSHADE ME AFTER I WAS DEATHTUNNELLED BY FUCKING FLIPPED, FLIPPED SCUM AND YOU FUCKING PROCEED TO SHADE ME FOR EVERY FUCKING POST WHEN WE LIVE ON OPPOSITE ENDS OF THE FUCKING MAP AND I DONT ANSWER YOU IN THE NEXT 3 PICOSECONDS ON QUESTIONS THAT YOU FUCKING HANDPICK TO SHADE ME AFTERWARDS IF I REPLY.
AND THEN WHEN IM ONLINE I SEE YOU IN FUCKING LURKERMODE AND WHEN I QUOTE YOU, YOU READ IT AND DONT REPLY.
AND THEN WHEN YOU SEE ME GOING OUT BECAUSE IM A HONEST PERSON WITH NOTHING TO HIDE AND NOT SOME SCUMMY LAG, YOU FUCKING LOG IN JUST TO REPLY TO EVERYTHING EXCEPT, EXCEPT ME JUST TO FUCKING FRAME ME TOGETHER WITH YOUR MATE IN MINDSET THE ONE KEK TO FUCKING PUSH MY MUSLIM LIKE YOU PUSHED SB16.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HORRIBLY BIG MOUTH AND SO FUCKING BIG THAT EVERY FUCKING POLITIC IN THIS SUPID SET UP IS JUST ENVIOUS ON YOUR PROPAGANDA SKILLS. AND YOU WILL FUCKING CONVINCE EVERYONE WITH YOUR BEATUFIL ASS WALLS THAT EVEN THE NY TIMES IS ENVIOUS ON TO FUCKING LYNCH ME TO LET YOU WIN.

[oliverz144]

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN THIS MORNING LAG? WHY DIDNT YOU QUOTE ME AND ASK ME SMTH AND YET YOU CLAIM I IGNORE YOU?!?!

[oliverz144]

5 users here, only me visible.
2 lurkers, 2 ghosts.
one of them is lag funnying themselves in front their screen

[WrathCyber]

Lag's reads as conspiracy theorist is wrong, although I am content with him being 3p. I claim Ballot Counter,

N1: Checked 3p ballot box: 5 votes.
N2: Checked Republican ballot box: 1 vote.

This means illuminati are voting for Democrats, which coincides with Lag's claim.

However.
HIDDEN TOWN - Ballot Counter
HIDDEN TOWN - Trash man
VOTER

Leaves no room for MM's sheriff claim
We know this to be true because N1 there were two kills. I also recall MM trying to bait me into claiming trash man, which is untrue because I know I'm not. Therefore someone else is.

Leaving my vote here on Mizery. You can check my claims on D2. What did I say? Scum!Mizery and scum!Lag. This vote does not come out of nowhere.

[WrathCyber]

Interesting because I baited Lag into a cc yesterday, which only confirms that Mizery and Lag are different factions. The fact that mizery didn't jump in means that lag has to be conspiracy theorist, leaving mizery out as illuminati. Check this guy's ISO. He did not contribute to any type of solving, which is heavily scum indicative.

[WrathCyber]

The fact that Lag went from apathetic to suddenly confrontational means there was a large amount of planning between D2 and D3. I'm willing to believe lag's claim for conspiracy theorist for now unless someone else wants to cc.

[WrathCyber]

I believe Oliver is trash man, MM illuminati. And Mizery illuminati

[Lumi]

5 users here, only me visible.
2 lurkers, 2 ghosts.
one of them is lag funnying themselves in front their screen

oliver, what do you think of:
Banana
Mizery
Auwt
Wrath

[WrathCyber]

the fact MM didn't die at all is already enough for me to pinpoint who is scum team. If I were illuminati, I would've targeted MM immediately. Also, I've yet to see MM post his will for N2 actions
Since you're outed as TPR, sharing crucial info like that is what ANY town would do in the BoD

[Lumi]

the fact MM didn't die at all is already enough for me to pinpoint who is scum team. If I were illuminati, I would've targeted MM immediately. Also, I've yet to see MM post his will for N2 actions
Since you're outed as TPR, sharing crucial info like that is what ANY town would do in the BoD

Who do you think are illuminati?

If you think I'm conspiracy theorist, and I'm hard claiming to have cracked the code, how can you think my results are wrong?

Why did you counter claim me, and then retract your claim? And only just now claim ballot counter?

Why did you say you can confirm I'm conspiracy theorist?

[Lumi]

Lag's reads as conspiracy theorist is wrong, although I am content with him being 3p. I claim Ballot Counter,

N1: Checked 3p ballot box: 5 votes.
N2: Checked Republican ballot box: 1 vote.

This means illuminati are voting for Democrats, which coincides with Lag's claim.

However.
HIDDEN TOWN - Ballot Counter
HIDDEN TOWN - Trash man
VOTER

Leaves no room for MM's sheriff claim
We know this to be true because N1 there were two kills. I also recall MM trying to bait me into claiming trash man, which is untrue because I know I'm not. Therefore someone else is.

Leaving my vote here on Mizery. You can check my claims on D2. What did I say? Scum!Mizery and scum!Lag. This vote does not come out of nowhere.

Ok, who do you think is Trash Man?

[WrathCyber]

Who do you think are illuminati?

If you think I'm conspiracy theorist, and I'm hard claiming to have cracked the code, how can you think my results are wrong?

Why did you counter claim me, and then retract your claim? And only just now claim ballot counter?

Why did you say you can confirm I'm conspiracy theorist?

1. Your results can be modified. You don't need to tell us what the actual results are, you have full control over the information you choose to give

2.to bait mizery into jumping in and to confirm your 3p claim. If you were scum team as I previously believed (check my d2 BoD iso) mizery would instantly defend you or throw shade because he is opportunistic. The fact he didn't tells me you are different factions, and since you can't be town because of your turtle playstylr, it makes sense for your soft claim all of a sudden. Also, I wanted to bait for you by claiming illuminati to confuse them on who to target at night, but you didn't big brain at all off of my play.

3. A. My ballot count votes confirm who Illuminati voted for (Democrats on N2)
B. You finally showed me the reason why you were playing so weird the whole game, not doing anything d2 besides tossing votes around, acting sus on purpose d1 to not be a priority on hitlist. That justifies everything you've been doing up until now.

[Lumi]

1. Your results can be modified. You don't need to tell us what the actual results are, you have full control over the information you choose to give

2.to bait mizery into jumping in and to confirm your 3p claim. If you were scum team as I previously believed (check my d2 BoD iso) mizery would instantly defend you or throw shade because he is opportunistic. The fact he didn't tells me you are different factions, and since you can't be town because of your turtle playstylr, it makes sense for your soft claim all of a sudden. Also, I wanted to bait for you by claiming illuminati to confuse them on who to target at night, but you didn't big brain at all off of my play.

3. A. My ballot count votes confirm who Illuminati voted for (Democrats on N2)
B. You finally showed me the reason why you were playing so weird the whole game, not doing anything d2 besides tossing votes around, acting sus on purpose d1 to not be a priority on hitlist. That justifies everything you've been doing up until now.

I hard claim that the results I posted are the results I submitted and I have zero reason to lie. So #1 is wrong, so I ask again:
If you think I'm conspiracy theorist, and I'm hard claiming to have cracked the code, how can you think my results are wrong?

[oliverz144]

Lag's reads as conspiracy theorist is wrong, although I am content with him being 3p. I claim Ballot Counter,

N1: Checked 3p ballot box: 5 votes.
N2: Checked Republican ballot box: 1 vote.

This means illuminati are voting for Democrats, which coincides with Lag's claim.
i voted
However.
HIDDEN TOWN - Ballot Counter
HIDDEN TOWN - Trash man
VOTER

Leaves no room for MM's sheriff claim
We know this to be true because N1 there were two kills. I also recall MM trying to bait me into claiming trash man, which is untrue because I know I'm not. Therefore someone else is.

Leaving my vote here on Mizery. You can check my claims on D2. What did I say? Scum!Mizery and scum!Lag. This vote does not come out of nowhere.

YOU WERE NEVER baited into claiming that u did it yourself.
you say lag is 3p and afterwards say that lag+mizery is the scumteam.
i also know for sure that your ballot counts are fake and wrong-
mm voted reps n1, i voted reps n2.
your counts also dont merge w/ porns softs - but he should go and hard claim.

[oliverz144]

how do we know mm wasnt bussing yesterday?!