Mafia jailor: abductor

[philie]

I suggest to implement a new mafia role, a mafia sided jailor
You can -abduct a townie during trial, and jail if nobody was lynched. You can proceed to roleblock just like a jailor or have a chat with your prisoner.
He will reveal his chat to mafia but the prisoner won't see it
Then the gf can choose to kill the prisoner or kill a different person. If a killing role chooses the prisoner while he's captured, he will show up as dead in a jail cell.
When the gf targets you in a cell, it'll show up as jailor will execute you, to prevent cheat
This role will also show up as someone sneaking out at night, presumably same as a normal jailor.

[Snowyowl]

So basically consort with limitations, except for the fact that you can fool the town to believe jailor did it?
Sorry but seems to unoriginal and easy for the town to detect since there won't be a mafia-kill message that night but instead a jailor-kill message.

[Nick]

Mechanics similar to Kidnapper, Capo-something, etc. as suggested before...

But I think chatting is new...

Mafia might be able to squeeze out some useful information from town... lol...

[philie]

Well noone said you have to execute him, you can always pick somebody else

[Snowyowl]

Exactly. So either you're a consort who can only roleblock if there has been no lynching except that you can chat with your target, or Mafia can kill the jailed one instead of an ordinary target, which gives a jailor-kill message instead of a mafia-kill message.

[philie]

This can also happen in a situation where escort blocks a mafia and a jailor kills a civillian. This won't necessarily out the mafia. I see this as a fun support role, that might help mafia gain info just like any other role. I mean, the town jailor is inferior to escort then, too, if I follow your logic. Yes it can kill, but how often do you really do it? When I play my jailor I do what escort does+ force them to claim a role, and very rarely kill.

I also would like it if every role had a mafia counterpart, atm jailor is what is unique to town and is the guy you can absolutely trust. Ideally you shouldnt be able to trust anyone