Just a quick question.

[Green]

Is it bad or illegal or anything if i do this.
Get the role serial killer, confess role d1 and offer to side with town by not killing unless told by someone who proved innocent. I am wondering this because i don't think it is gamethrowing if you are the serial killer because you have no allies to ruin game for.
Also, it helps town people get more points.

If this is not permitted, someone tell me please.

[Menautor]

I see your point of view and understand where you are coming from. Here is another point of view, by not playing your role, you affect other teams and roles such as Mafia, Cult or even Witch. Also in the definition of game throwing, not playing your role the way it should is considered game throwing. see this thread https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...ime-Punishment!

hope this helps

Is it bad or illegal or anything if i do this.
Get the role serial killer, confess role d1 and offer to side with town by not killing unless told by someone who proved innocent. I am wondering this because i don't think it is gamethrowing if you are the serial killer because you have no allies to ruin game for.
Also, it helps town people get more points.

If this is not permitted, someone tell me please.

[Green]

Thank you, and now that I know that it is considered gamethrowing, i shall not do it again. Just trying to make sure I don't get in trouble.

Also, for being the 5th person to view and the first person to reply, you get a few smiley faces, : ) XD xD

[Blazer]

Like Menautor said, it is in a way. Since you won't necessarily be killing townies and fulfilling your roles objectives and goals for victory, hence gamethrowing. (Playing against your winning objective)

[Ambient]

Also, it helps town people get more points.

It is this line. That makes me question your intentions..


If an SK throws a game for himself because he is partied with a town member. It would fall under cheating.

[Auckmid]

Sorry, but how dumb do you actualy have to be to think the answer to your question might be "No, it's okay to play against your win condition and intentionaly lose so that an enemy faction can win"?

@Ambient: There's something about the guy in your avatar which makes him look like a rapeist

[SgtSausage]

I don't see why it would be a problem as long as you're not paired with a town, or just trying to get other people more points.

If its your legitimate strategy to try and win the game (your victory conditions) it seems fine to me. Pretending or actually allying with town are both options you or anyone can choose.

Dont take my word for it, i would like an exact yes or no, but it seems fine to me. I don't think anyone would report you for this, as long as you're not trolling / helping friends farm points or anything. If you think you can win at SK like this, by all means go for it. Im impressed at your original take on SK strategy xD

[Rocshi]

The offering isn't the gamethrowing, it's your actions.

You can say in day chat, "I'm Serial Killer allying myself with town" and then kill people at night and let the WIFOM commence.

If your actions are pro-town, you're not playing to your win condition, and also, why would you anyway, you need to kill town to win, you're basically just losing with no reward whatsoever.

[SgtSausage]

I think he meant alling with town temporarily, (helping them get mafia or something) and then maybe at the end trying to secure to SK win.

If this isnt what he means, then i don't see how he could be playing seriously, so it must be trolling / game throwing and isn't really even a question.

[Green]

It is this line. That makes me question your intentions..


If an SK throws a game for himself because he is partied with a town member. It would fall under cheating.

What i ment was just to give them points. Not partied witht them or anything, just doing it for its own sake.

[Green]

I don't see why it would be a problem as long as you're not paired with a town, or just trying to get other people more points.

If its your legitimate strategy to try and win the game (your victory conditions) it seems fine to me. Pretending or actually allying with town are both options you or anyone can choose.

Dont take my word for it, i would like an exact yes or no, but it seems fine to me. I don't think anyone would report you for this, as long as you're not trolling / helping friends farm points or anything. If you think you can win at SK like this, by all means go for it. Im impressed at your original take on SK strategy xD

Sometimes it is my legit strategy. I did it once before, told mayor i was sk and to lynch mafia, and ended up winning through trickery.

[Green]

The offering isn't the gamethrowing, it's your actions.

You can say in day chat, "I'm Serial Killer allying myself with town" and then kill people at night and let the WIFOM commence.

If your actions are pro-town, you're not playing to your win condition, and also, why would you anyway, you need to kill town to win, you're basically just losing with no reward whatsoever.

I just did it sometimes though just to let people get points. Depending on the situation, i don't care if i receive a reward or not(points). I just do it for kindness.

[Green]

Once again, i have stopped doing this because i now know it was wrong. Thank you all for replying to this post. Also, i shall have other questions in here.

[Green]

Here is another question.

How do i use blacklist? I tried and it is not working. Is it supposed to be formated like this?

-Blacklist Investigator, Sheriff, Doctor, Detective, Citizen, Bus driver, Mayor, Jailor, Vigilante, Veteran, Coronor, Bodyguard, Mason, Escort, Spy, Mason leader, Lookout.

-Blacklist Godfather, Framer, Consigliere, Consort, Mafioso, Disguiser, Blackmailer, Janitor.

-Blacklist Amnesiac, Survivor, Witch, Arsonist, Serial Killer, Jester, Executioner, Cultist.

[Cryptonic]

I believe you can only blacklist 5 roles.
So that's why it's not working man

[Green]

awwww darn it!

Thank you.

[EagleMan]

You have enough points to blacklist but you don't know what's gamethrowing?

[FrostByte]

You have enough points to blacklist but you don't know what's gamethrowing?

I fail to see your point.
I do see your lack of proper sentence structure, though.
GJ nub.

[Cryptonic]

I fail to see your point.
I do see your lack of proper sentence structure, though.
GJ nub.

snap

[Cryptonic]

God. What a pathetic thread. Gamethrowing is so interpretive and opinionated.

How many different ways are there to play each role? An infinite amount.

If you want to be SK and say your role d1 and kill for the town, do it. Sometimes, you can win that way. And most of the time, you'll be lynched immediately.

Any neutral role that isn't a a growing Cult can't gamethrow. Period.

Any mod who tells you otherwise is full of himself, eager to abuse power.

No one will report you if they're not on your team.

[Xen]

God. What a pathetic thread. Gamethrowing is so interpretive and opinionated.

How many different ways are there to play each role? An infinite amount.

If you want to be SK and say your role d1 and kill for the town, do it. Sometimes, you can win that way. And most of the time, you'll be lynched immediately.

Any neutral role that isn't a a growing Cult can't gamethrow. Period.

Any mod who tells you otherwise is full of himself, eager to abuse power.

[Duzero]

Any neutral role that isn't a a growing Cult can't gamethrow. Period.

This sentence makes sence, except for the triple periods.

A quick list to see it is correct:

Survivor - No one cares about survivors, jailors execute you for fun, town lynches on sight and the mafia will shoot you after you help them vote the last townie off.

Jester - yeah right

Witch - if you find the mafia or SK and then get lynched by them, feel free to expose them for revenge

Amnesiac - as long as you haven't picked a role you are all on your own

Cult - this is actually a team so you can ruin for other people by intentionally losing

[Green]

See this is what i was talking about.

[creedkingsx]

Any neutral role that isn't a a growing Cult can't gamethrow. Period.

Anything with a goal can game-throw. If the intention, for example, of a survivor is clearly to die, when the goal is to leave, it is game- throwing. Griefing at the least.

[Duzero]

Anything with a goal can game-throw. If the intention, for example, of a survivor is clearly to die, when the goal is to leave, it is game- throwing. Griefing at the least.

Now that would be a very easy goal to achieve, nerf plz.

[Guardian]

Last I checked, its not game-throwing.
Because you have no team, thus you can't ruin their game directly. (As in revealing mafia/cult teamates etc)

If a stu- scrap that. No students in SC2mafia.

[Blazer]

wasn't the OP answered over a week ago?

[Duzero]

wasn't the OP answered over a week ago?

What's your point?

[Blazer]

What's your point?

People are still answering it and getting us off topic here.

[Damus_Graves]

Gamethrowing:
Working to make you OR your team lose.
nuff said

[Blazer]

Gamethrowing:
Working to make you OR your team lose.
nuff said

Stop getting off topic. We already answered that. lol

[Duzero]

Stop getting off topic. We already answered that. lol

You're off topic. :P

[Damus_Graves]

I'm so lost

[Blazer]

I'm so lost

Too ez

[Damus_Graves]

That's mean...
But it's ok, your still my favorite!

[Blazer]

That's mean...
But it's ok, your still my favorite!

<3
teh lawlz must go on!

[Green]

Another thing, i now have prefer list, but its not working. What i mean is, i prefer jester in a save where jester is possible, yet i don't get it. I am also the only one in the lobby who can prefer list. Help. No idea why it's not working.

[AppleyNO]

Another thing, i now have prefer list, but its not working. What i mean is, i prefer jester in a save where jester is possible, yet i don't get it. I am also the only one in the lobby who can prefer list. Help. No idea why it's not working.

I think that means that the Jester didn't role out of rand nuet. Something else did.

[Green]

Prefer list is supposed to make you get a role that you prefer, as long is it is possible. It was possible, yet didn't happen. Still at a loss.

[creedkingsx]

Another thing, i now have prefer list, but its not working. What i mean is, i prefer jester in a save where jester is possible, yet i don't get it. I am also the only one in the lobby who can prefer list. Help. No idea why it's not working.

It guarantees automatically there roles, and randoms are just more likely but not guaranteed

[Green]

So do you mean the role has to be confirmed for you to actually get it?

[EliteMarine]

So do you mean the role has to be confirmed for you to actually get it?

Not at all.

First off, do make sure that you have 20,000 in game mafia points before attempting this or it will not work.

You can prefer any 5 roles you want. Now if there and random town, random mafia, or random neutrals, you can still get your role through them as along as the role spawns.

Take my save for example:

Godfather
Random Mafia
Random Mafia
Sheriff
Investigator
Doctor
jailor
Citizen
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Neutral
Random Neutral
Random Neutral

(I love my randoms)

Now if you prefer jester on this save, it is possible to get it as long as AT LEAST ONE of the random nuetrals spawn a Jester. If those 3 neutrals become an SK, Executioner, and Cult...then you cannot obtain Jester. So you are relying on a bit of luck when trying to prefer undefined roles.